Is Dan Marino overrated?

marinocollector · 08-25-2022, 02:31 PM

Only had HOF coaches his whole career. Don Shula who was on the down swing to becoming most wins ever. Jimmy Johnson who was given the greatest RB ever not named Jim Brown on a platter.
Only had 2 other HOF players, Dwight Stephenson who retired 4 years into his career and Jason Taylor who's resume didnt really start until Marino was gone.
Some would argue Richmond Webb and Zach Thomas would already be in the hall if it wasn't for Marino.
Ended his career with second most wins in NFL history, just never at the last game of the season. Over glorified stat padder? Or just a victim to the Fins total inability to find and keep talent?

Siberian13 · 08-25-2022, 02:35 PM

Just couldn’t win the games that mattered.

49erRCCollector · 08-25-2022, 02:37 PM

I hope not. Truth? No idea

tjforce · 08-25-2022, 02:44 PM

Underrated.

Got to the Super Bowl with this supporting cast:

nabzy28 · 08-25-2022, 02:44 PM

I'm not even sure where people 'rate' him. I always saw him as very good. A lot of these current QB's are going to be the 'Marino's' of their generation. Stats for days, but only a few will get the distinction of holding that Lombardi. With one-and-done playoffs, you need luck just as much as talent to make it that far, let alone win it all. It was a far different game back then, too.

marinocollector · 08-25-2022, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjforce

Underrated.

Got to the Super Bowl with this supporting cast:

He never made it with OJ McDuffie

88horsepower · 08-25-2022, 02:51 PM

People who feel Marino is overrated probably didn't see him play and likely haven't celebrated their 30th birthday yet. His gameplay was revolutionary for his era. He's anything but overrated.

tjforce · 08-25-2022, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinocollector

He never made it with OJ McDuffie

I think you missed the point of my joke here

nfcsaints · 08-25-2022, 02:52 PM

He was the best at his position for several years. Not quite at the level of......say.....Everett or Bledsoe......but decent enough.

tjforce · 08-25-2022, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

People who feel Marino is overrated probably didn't see him play and likely haven't celebrated their 30th birthday yet. His gameplay was revolutionary for his era. He's anything but overrated.

But yes, considering that nobody puts him in the GOAT category, I can't say he's overrated. I'll put him over guys like Young, Aikman, etc, who has amazing teams around them.

88horsepower · 08-25-2022, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfcsaints

He was the best at his position for several years. Not quite at the level of......say.....Everett or Bledsoe......but decent enough.

Now that Everett guy, he was underrated if anything.

the mesiah · 08-25-2022, 02:57 PM

jplarson · 08-25-2022, 02:57 PM

I don't think he was overrated in Ace Ventura. Properly rated. He was so annoying to try and intercept in Tecmo Super Bowl. 81 speed rocket arm plus accuracy. Bubby Brister, John Elway, and BJ Tolliver WISH they could be him.

Archangel1775 · 08-25-2022, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Now that Everett guy, he was underrated if anything.

Chris or Jim?

49erRCCollector · 08-25-2022, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjforce

But yes, considering that nobody puts him in the GOAT category, I can't say he's overrated. I'll put him over guys like Young, Aikman, etc, who has amazing teams around them.

Over Young?

Hmm.

longhornjunkie · 08-25-2022, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jplarson

I don't think he was overrated in Ace Ventura. Properly rated. He was so annoying to try and intercept in Tecmo Super Bowl. 81 speed rocket arm plus accuracy. Bubby Brister, John Elway, and BJ Tolliver WISH they could be him.

I basically came here for the "laces out" content.

Chaddie84 · 08-25-2022, 03:24 PM

He's a bit raw, but I see the potential...

k13 · 08-25-2022, 03:28 PM

Every modern QB is overrated.

Arena football should not be rated.

Fenway55 · 08-25-2022, 03:28 PM

I have always thought Marino was underrated. The fact that he didn't win a Super Bowl leads people to believe he wasn't as good as he really was.

Plus the young'uns don't appreciate how extraordinary his stats were for the time. 5,000 passing yards isn't that big a deal these days but when Marino did it in 1984, not only was he the first, but he would be the only one to do it for 24 years.

2010GBPackers · 08-25-2022, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenway55

I have always thought Marino was underrated. The fact that he didn't win a Super Bowl leads people to believe he wasn't as good as he really was.

Plus the young'uns don't appreciate how extraordinary his stats were for the time. 5,000 passing yards isn't that big a deal these days but when Marino did it in 1984, not only was he the first, but he would be the only one to do it for 24 years.

Let that sink in, young folk. Marino is a Top 5 QB of all-time, SB rings or not.

Siberian13 · 08-25-2022, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Let that sink in, young folk. Marino is a Top 5 QB of all-time, SB rings or not.

All those stats for nothing.

49erRCCollector · 08-25-2022, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Let that sink in, young folk. Marino is a Top 5 QB of all-time, SB rings or not.

I'm old. Would not rate him top 5.

he threw for a ton of yards. completion percentage was lower than some of the elite QBs of the time, interception rate was higher. Through the 80s there's an alarming amount of 20 interception seasons.

Then came inconsistency and injuries.

He threw it. A lot. but that's only a small part of the story. I like efficiency, I like less turnovers. Yards are cool, but yards don't = wins.

I don't think it's necessarily his fault - his defenses weren't great, often, and he never had an amazing running back. but his body of work has ups and downs.

If you told me tomorrow I could have prime Marino as my franchise QB, I'd take him, but top 5 is for the very, very elite.

Jed Clampett · 08-25-2022, 04:07 PM

I’m old……
Easily top 5 all time

jplarson · 08-25-2022, 04:12 PM

I'm old....
Easily top 5 of the 1980s

Rotherwood · 08-25-2022, 04:20 PM

08-25-2022, 02:31 PM	#1
marinocollector Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Locally Posts: 8,305	Is Dan Marino overrated? Only had HOF coaches his whole career. Don Shula who was on the down swing to becoming most wins ever. Jimmy Johnson who was given the greatest RB ever not named Jim Brown on a platter. Only had 2 other HOF players, Dwight Stephenson who retired 4 years into his career and Jason Taylor who's resume didnt really start until Marino was gone. Some would argue Richmond Webb and Zach Thomas would already be in the hall if it wasn't for Marino. Ended his career with second most wins in NFL history, just never at the last game of the season. Over glorified stat padder? Or just a victim to the Fins total inability to find and keep talent? __________________ There's 100 made! Lets hope that one of the .00000001% of the world population that actually own this card decides that today is the day they offer it for sale.

08-25-2022, 02:35 PM	#2
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 80,730 shiller13	Just couldn’t win the games that mattered. __________________ Took their ball and went home

08-25-2022, 02:37 PM	#3
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,942	I hope not. Truth? No idea __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

08-25-2022, 02:44 PM	#4
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,833	Underrated. Got to the Super Bowl with this supporting cast: __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

08-25-2022, 02:44 PM	#5
nabzy28 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a warehouse of common sense Posts: 7,328 nabzy28	I'm not even sure where people 'rate' him. I always saw him as very good. A lot of these current QB's are going to be the 'Marino's' of their generation. Stats for days, but only a few will get the distinction of holding that Lombardi. With one-and-done playoffs, you need luck just as much as talent to make it that far, let alone win it all. It was a far different game back then, too. __________________ Sent from my Danger Hiptop T-Mobile Sidekick in 2002

08-25-2022, 02:51 PM	#7
88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,872	People who feel Marino is overrated probably didn't see him play and likely haven't celebrated their 30th birthday yet. His gameplay was revolutionary for his era. He's anything but overrated.

08-25-2022, 02:52 PM	#9
nfcsaints Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Morro Bay, CA Posts: 2,795 nfcsaints	He was the best at his position for several years. Not quite at the level of......say.....Everett or Bledsoe......but decent enough. __________________ SUPERCOLLECTING Jim Everett and Henry Ellard Jim Everett (804/841 = 95%) Henry Ellard (524/602= 87%)

08-25-2022, 02:57 PM	#12
the mesiah Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,859	__________________ THE CARD/MEMORABILIA COLLECTION https://www.flickr.com/photos/149024462@N04/albums/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196556801@N02/albums/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196511489@N05/albums/

08-25-2022, 02:57 PM	#13
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	I don't think he was overrated in Ace Ventura. Properly rated. He was so annoying to try and intercept in Tecmo Super Bowl. 81 speed rocket arm plus accuracy. Bubby Brister, John Elway, and BJ Tolliver WISH they could be him.

08-25-2022, 03:24 PM	#17
Chaddie84 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 8,827 Chaddie84 Chaddie84	He's a bit raw, but I see the potential... __________________ SKOL! Go Bison!

08-25-2022, 03:28 PM	#18
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Every modern QB is overrated. Arena football should not be rated.

08-25-2022, 03:28 PM	#19
Fenway55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 7,341	I have always thought Marino was underrated. The fact that he didn't win a Super Bowl leads people to believe he wasn't as good as he really was. Plus the young'uns don't appreciate how extraordinary his stats were for the time. 5,000 passing yards isn't that big a deal these days but when Marino did it in 1984, not only was he the first, but he would be the only one to do it for 24 years.

08-25-2022, 04:07 PM	#23
Jed Clampett Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 527	I’m old…… Easily top 5 all time

08-25-2022, 04:12 PM	#24
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	I'm old.... Easily top 5 of the 1980s

08-25-2022, 04:20 PM	#25
Rotherwood Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 314 AlliedExchange