The absurdity of ebay's authenticity guarantee

pspa123 · 05-07-2022, 10:21 PM

I just bought a PSA graded card at a little over 2K. The card literally was graded within the last two weeks. Front and back scans are on the PSA website. Now, ebay is making the seller ship the card back TO PSA to "authenticate" it.

Archangel1775 · 05-07-2022, 11:13 PM

Sounds like the case may have been cracked or something.

kyle1707 · 05-07-2022, 11:24 PM

Same thing happened to me

It did not say Psa graded in the listing details

It did in description and I could see the photo

bear0555 · 05-07-2022, 11:34 PM

They threw away what I consider to be a part of my card [unique pack pulled sleeve] despite the seller including a note for them to specifically not throw it out.

gwsc · 05-08-2022, 01:06 AM

Any graded card over $2k is now sent to PSA to “authenticate” as part of eBay’s program.

ReggieBush22 · 05-08-2022, 01:29 AM

I remember when Ebay was just the middle man. Now, they are like the government and want to control everything.

If a card I am selling has that authenticity check mark, does that mean I HAVE to send the item to Ebay or is it an option? I am assuming it's the former? If so, what a joke.

jewcer2k5 · 05-08-2022, 06:00 AM

This is to protect both the buyer and seller.

The buyer from getting a fake card or busted slab.

The seller from having to take a nonsense return.

Blame all sellers that sell fake crap and buyers that return stuff for no reason except the value went down.

KhalDrogo · 05-08-2022, 06:49 AM

The good thing is you're free to choose not to use it.

hammertime · 05-08-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Blame all sellers that sell fake crap

All 3 of them? I mean somewhere along the line someone probably dropped a slab they were selling in the toilet...so when is eBay starting their sanitation guarantee program?

thewild3 · 05-08-2022, 10:59 AM

Guess whats next? Wax authentication

Frankp2311 · 05-08-2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thewild3

Guess whats next? Wax authentication

This makes more sense in my opinion.

CaptSpaulding · 05-08-2022, 11:17 AM

Being discussed here, https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...517175...might even be another thread too.

I get why eBay has done this but it is likely one of the last areas that needs their oversight.

mfw13 · 05-08-2022, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

This is to protect both the buyer and seller.

The buyer from getting a fake card or busted slab.

The seller from having to take a nonsense return.

Blame all sellers that sell fake crap and buyers that return stuff for no reason except the value went down.

Then it should be optional, for the buyer or seller to choose whether or not they want this service.

ReggieBush22 · 05-08-2022, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

This is to protect both the buyer and seller.

The buyer from getting a fake card or busted slab.

The seller from having to take a nonsense return.

Blame all sellers that sell fake crap and buyers that return stuff for no reason except the value went down.

I don't see how returns play into authenticating an item.

Ebay's immensely liberal policy on returns and giving the buyers too much power is the issue.

The fact that Ebay needs to authenticate graded cards is a joke and waste of time and resources.

ReggieBush22 · 05-08-2022, 01:28 PM

And exactly WHO at Ebay are "authenticating" these items? It takes a lot of knowledge and experience in the industry to know how to spot issues/fakes. I mean people even fool PSA at times. If these guys at Ebay don't know what they are doing, it's just a complete waste of everyone's time.

I would guess there is some bad leadership going on at Ebay right now, at least the hobby division.

pspa123 · 05-08-2022, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The good thing is you're free to choose not to use it.

As a buyer I had no choice?

JrFinest · 05-08-2022, 02:47 PM

Just wait till they start charging you for it.

tconte · 05-08-2022, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pspa123

As a buyer I had no choice?

But you can decide to spend less and buy less because of this. I did.

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mc1 · 05-08-2022, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieBush22

And exactly WHO at Ebay are "authenticating" these items? It takes a lot of knowledge and experience in the industry to know how to spot issues/fakes. I mean people even fool PSA at times. If these guys at Ebay don't know what they are doing, it's just a complete waste of everyone's time.

I would guess there is some bad leadership going on at Ebay right now, at least the hobby division.

Is this a serious question? Youre not even sure how the program works…

Raw goes to CSG and PSA other graded goes to PSA.

spuds1961 · 05-08-2022, 03:39 PM

Would you guys suggest just not selling items above the price line of authenticity, I am lucky out of my 177 listed items only 3 exceed the price line.

HOFAutoRookies · 05-08-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pspa123

As a buyer I had no choice?

Yes you do. You don't have to purchase the item(s) with the blue authenticity guarantee

DynaEtch · 05-08-2022, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Would you guys suggest just not selling items above the price line of authenticity, I am lucky out of my 177 listed items only 3 exceed the price line.

I don’t see why a seller would be against this, if item goes through you are in the clear and buyer can’t attempt shenanigans, INAD etc.
That’s a piece of mind for the seller.

The only way I could see this impacting a seller negatively is if they are trying to pass fake cards (like in that 1989 Griffey Tiffany RC thread with fake glossed cards), or if they are not great at accurately describing a card (overgrading or not mentioning obvious flaws).

Sonnys88 · 05-08-2022, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

This is to protect both the buyer and seller.

The buyer from getting a fake card or busted slab.

The seller from having to take a nonsense return.

Blame all sellers that sell fake crap and buyers that return stuff for no reason except the value went down.

Exactly.

It's kind of amazing that some are upset that eBay is adding in an extra layer of "protection" for the buyer and seller.

eBay wouldn't add this new layer of authentication / protection just because - they are doing it due to the high number of counterfeit slabs / cards being sold, and the high number of returns that the card category has had. It's a big step in the right direction to cut down on fraud.

mfw13 · 05-08-2022, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonnys88

Exactly.

It's kind of amazing that some are upset that eBay is adding in an extra layer of "protection" for the buyer and seller.

Except that it's protection nobody has asked for, is being forced on people against their will, and involves increased risk of card damage due to the increased number of people handling the card.

As an OPTIONAL program that buyers/sellers can utilize when desired, it's a great idea.

As a MANDATORY program, it's a horrible idea.....

hammertime · 05-08-2022, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfw13

As a MANDATORY program, it's a horrible idea.....

05-07-2022, 10:21 PM	#1
pspa123 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 3,758	The absurdity of ebay's authenticity guarantee I just bought a PSA graded card at a little over 2K. The card literally was graded within the last two weeks. Front and back scans are on the PSA website. Now, ebay is making the seller ship the card back TO PSA to "authenticate" it. __________________ "We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity." Opening narration, The Outer Limits.

05-07-2022, 11:13 PM	#2
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05-08-2022, 01:06 AM	#5
gwsc Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 282 greatwrighter greatwrighter	Any graded card over $2k is now sent to PSA to “authenticate” as part of eBay’s program. __________________ Instagram: greatwrighter

05-08-2022, 06:00 AM	#7
jewcer2k5 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NY, NY Posts: 37,591 pc_sportscards	This is to protect both the buyer and seller. The buyer from getting a fake card or busted slab. The seller from having to take a nonsense return. Blame all sellers that sell fake crap and buyers that return stuff for no reason except the value went down. __________________ If you have a PC Sportscards Customer Service question please reach out to litehouse17 on here and Kevin can help! PSA subs - If you are a vet can you help the new guys? Sometimes I don’t have time to reply

05-07-2022, 11:24 PM	#3
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,568	Same thing happened to me It did not say Psa graded in the listing details It did in description and I could see the photo

05-08-2022, 01:29 AM	#6
ReggieBush22 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,629 lionpride	I remember when Ebay was just the middle man. Now, they are like the government and want to control everything. If a card I am selling has that authenticity check mark, does that mean I HAVE to send the item to Ebay or is it an option? I am assuming it's the former? If so, what a joke.

05-08-2022, 06:49 AM	#8
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,383	The good thing is you're free to choose not to use it. __________________ I love PSA!

05-08-2022, 10:59 AM	#10
thewild3 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,053	Guess whats next? Wax authentication __________________ If you got time to sell cards, then make time to ship them out in a timely manner!!!!!!

05-08-2022, 11:17 AM	#12
CaptSpaulding Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,458	Being discussed here, https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...517175...might even be another thread too. I get why eBay has done this but it is likely one of the last areas that needs their oversight.

05-08-2022, 01:28 PM	#15
ReggieBush22 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,629 lionpride	And exactly WHO at Ebay are "authenticating" these items? It takes a lot of knowledge and experience in the industry to know how to spot issues/fakes. I mean people even fool PSA at times. If these guys at Ebay don't know what they are doing, it's just a complete waste of everyone's time. I would guess there is some bad leadership going on at Ebay right now, at least the hobby division.

05-08-2022, 02:47 PM	#17
JrFinest Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,117 jrfinest_cards	Just wait till they start charging you for it.

05-08-2022, 03:39 PM	#20
spuds1961 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Terry,Ms. Posts: 39,555	Would you guys suggest just not selling items above the price line of authenticity, I am lucky out of my 177 listed items only 3 exceed the price line.