21-22 Donruss Elite FOTL

bustsomewax · 02-07-2022, 06:13 PM

How the hell do we have this releasing already? Feels like we just had 20-21 Elite.

Any predictions for price? This was always my favorite rip of the year for value, scared to see what they do with it now.

yiguiri2002 · 02-07-2022, 06:17 PM

It was on the Donruss Elite thread but I'm guessing 350-400. Better guess might come from phil or auctionjmm, they buy cases on release.

auctionjmm · 02-07-2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

It was on the Donruss Elite thread but I'm guessing 350-400. Better guess might come from phil or auctionjmm, they buy cases on release.

I'm checking out on Elite this year. Now that it is a proper mainstream release, it will never be the same as it was. The rookies could be #'d higher, odds longer on parallels, and I don't see any mention of Spellbounds inserts which were a huge value add the last two years. This might not even be worth $200. It will all depend on the checklist and then watching a few breaks at release to know how the distribution of parallels stacks up to the online release years.

bustsomewax · 02-07-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I'm checking out on Elite this year. Now that it is a proper mainstream release, it will never be the same as it was. The rookies could be #'d higher, odds longer on parallels, and I don't see any mention of Spellbounds inserts which were a huge value add the last two years. This might not even be worth $200. It will all depend on the checklist and then watching a few breaks at release to know how the distribution of parallels stacks up to the online release years.

This is exactly what I was concerned about. Print run way up. Sigh, basically the last release I could justify.

BlockShotStop · 02-07-2022, 08:00 PM

There are so few hobby releases where you can have any fun ripping wax. Cost of entry is so high and the returns (either in cards you like or want to sell) are so paltry. I wish I had more card shows nearby so I could scratch the hunting itch by meticulously going through $1 and $5 boxes. eBay sniping isn’t quite the same. I want to rifle through the physical cards.

frobebryant · 02-07-2022, 08:11 PM

$700 down to $200

yiguiri2002 · 02-07-2022, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I'm checking out on Elite this year. Now that it is a proper mainstream release, it will never be the same as it was. The rookies could be #'d higher, odds longer on parallels, and I don't see any mention of Spellbounds inserts which were a huge value add the last two years. This might not even be worth $200. It will all depend on the checklist and then watching a few breaks at release to know how the distribution of parallels stacks up to the online release years.

I'm on the same boat. I might get one at 250 if it gets there, but I doubt it.

They've increased the print run and took out the Spellbounds. I think I'll rather have one box of Elite of either year than 2 from this release.

wxguy44 · 02-08-2022, 09:51 AM

Ugh, why the lack of transparency, Panini???

JAMSC · 02-08-2022, 10:01 AM

Sigh, again no checklist before release panini… no idea what base rookies are #d to… no idea what all the parallels are going to be… no idea if the FOTL parallels replace the 2 rookies per box in hobby as some wording suggests.

So basically no idea what’s actually going to be in the box they want us to buy today.

PSA2Pac · 02-08-2022, 10:04 AM

Classico.

dcarado · 02-08-2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

How the hell do we have this releasing already? Feels like we just had 20-21 Elite.

Any predictions for price? This was always my favorite rip of the year for value, scared to see what they do with it now.

Hobby is presale at tree fiddy, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say right around there.

As far as legitimate demand, the combination of expanding this to hobby and there being very little demand for 21/22 bball is probably not an ideal combination.

yiguiri2002 · 02-08-2022, 11:12 AM

Looking at the responses from some posters, I feel like this is gonna fall to 300-350 with a chance to go under 300. Presale prices mean very little now, it's just a way to try to create a floor for FOTL.

phil · 02-08-2022, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Looking at the responses from some posters, I feel like this is gonna fall to 300-350 with a chance to go under 300. Presale prices mean very little now, it's just a way to try to create a floor for FOTL.

It should drop under $300 assuming the big 3 and/or distributors haven't already bought the majority of the FOTL print run, which unfortunately they likely have.

phil · 02-08-2022, 11:26 AM

Levels both sides of Hobby presell

387.50
366.67
345.83
325
304.17

JAMSC · 02-08-2022, 11:38 AM

“2021-22 Donruss Elite Basketball Hobby Box Break Average

2 Autographs
8 Parallels and 8 Inserts
2 Rookies
2021-22 Donruss Elite Basketball FOTL Box Break Average

2 Autographs
2 Exclusive Parallels (#/17 or #/3)
8 Additional Parallels
8 Inserts”

Everyone else reads this as FOTL parallels replacing the 2 rookies in hobby boxes right?

Last year this was 4 base cards per back with a 100 base card checklist. This year it is 7 base cards per pack. So there’s also concern that they might have blown up the checklist since we have no way to confirm even the number of cards in the set this year.

dcarado · 02-08-2022, 11:42 AM

This might have been addressed elsewhere, but the mockups seem to suggest the Pen Pals will be on-card? That would be a little boost I would think.

Tonic3 · 02-08-2022, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dcarado

This might have been addressed elsewhere, but the mockups seem to suggest the Pen Pals will be on-card? That would be a little boost I would think.

I highly, highly doubt they will be on-card. They never have been in previous years, I'm not sure why Panini would start putting in the effort now

cardrcomeback · 02-08-2022, 12:26 PM

in at 200

gopowergoh · 02-08-2022, 12:26 PM

cant even atc

STLtoMN · 02-08-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gopowergoh

cant even atc

you are doing something wrong then... it adds immediately

i4gotmyid · 02-08-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

I highly, highly doubt they will be on-card. They never have been in previous years, I'm not sure why Panini would start putting in the effort now

this made me choke on my coffee

gopowergoh · 02-08-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by STLtoMN

you are doing something wrong then... it adds immediately

Created a new account and it added, I wonder what happened.. Did they flag my account or something

auctionjmm · 02-08-2022, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gopowergoh

Created a new account and it added, I wonder what happened.. Did they flag my account or something

I had to reinstall the app on my phone. They did some kind of update at least a couple of months ago and I had been unable to use the app until yesterday.

chairmam2015 · 02-08-2022, 01:28 PM

hit some high traffic around 345, still there though

yiguiri2002 · 02-08-2022, 01:29 PM

I was able to add to cart easily. My guess is it gets sold out as soon as it gets under 300.

02-07-2022, 06:13 PM	#1
bustsomewax Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 6,922 rockymountaincollectibles_1 goapps2014	21-22 Donruss Elite FOTL How the hell do we have this releasing already? Feels like we just had 20-21 Elite. Any predictions for price? This was always my favorite rip of the year for value, scared to see what they do with it now.

02-07-2022, 06:17 PM	#2
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,567 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	It was on the Donruss Elite thread but I'm guessing 350-400. Better guess might come from phil or auctionjmm, they buy cases on release. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

02-08-2022, 10:01 AM	#9
JAMSC Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Iowa Posts: 602 jam.sportscards	21-22 Donruss Elite FOTL Sigh, again no checklist before release panini… no idea what base rookies are #d to… no idea what all the parallels are going to be… no idea if the FOTL parallels replace the 2 rookies per box in hobby as some wording suggests. So basically no idea what’s actually going to be in the box they want us to buy today.

02-08-2022, 11:12 AM	#12
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,567 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	Looking at the responses from some posters, I feel like this is gonna fall to 300-350 with a chance to go under 300. Presale prices mean very little now, it's just a way to try to create a floor for FOTL. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

02-08-2022, 12:26 PM	#19
gopowergoh Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,103	cant even atc __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/193561529@N03/albums

02-07-2022, 08:00 PM	#5
BlockShotStop Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 307	There are so few hobby releases where you can have any fun ripping wax. Cost of entry is so high and the returns (either in cards you like or want to sell) are so paltry. I wish I had more card shows nearby so I could scratch the hunting itch by meticulously going through $1 and $5 boxes. eBay sniping isn’t quite the same. I want to rifle through the physical cards.

02-07-2022, 08:11 PM	#6
frobebryant Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 118	$700 down to $200

02-08-2022, 09:51 AM	#8
wxguy44 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: NC Posts: 873 rain_doctor	Ugh, why the lack of transparency, Panini???

02-08-2022, 10:04 AM	#10
PSA2Pac Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 3,901	Classico.

02-08-2022, 11:26 AM	#14
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,745	Levels both sides of Hobby presell 387.50 366.67 345.83 325 304.17

02-08-2022, 11:38 AM	#15
JAMSC Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Iowa Posts: 602 jam.sportscards	“2021-22 Donruss Elite Basketball Hobby Box Break Average 2 Autographs 8 Parallels and 8 Inserts 2 Rookies 2021-22 Donruss Elite Basketball FOTL Box Break Average 2 Autographs 2 Exclusive Parallels (#/17 or #/3) 8 Additional Parallels 8 Inserts” Everyone else reads this as FOTL parallels replacing the 2 rookies in hobby boxes right? Last year this was 4 base cards per back with a 100 base card checklist. This year it is 7 base cards per pack. So there’s also concern that they might have blown up the checklist since we have no way to confirm even the number of cards in the set this year.

02-08-2022, 11:42 AM	#16
dcarado Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,575 dcarado56	This might have been addressed elsewhere, but the mockups seem to suggest the Pen Pals will be on-card? That would be a little boost I would think.

02-08-2022, 12:26 PM	#18
cardrcomeback Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 1,089	in at 200

02-08-2022, 01:28 PM	#24
chairmam2015 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 7	hit some high traffic around 345, still there though

02-08-2022, 01:29 PM	#25
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,567 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	I was able to add to cart easily. My guess is it gets sold out as soon as it gets under 300. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos