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Old 11-10-2021, 07:56 PM   #1
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Old 11-10-2021, 07:59 PM   #2
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Looks cool. I like the design. Wonder how much for a box.


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Old 11-10-2021, 08:03 PM   #3
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25 parallels per card .... lol

... and Topps fanbois used to rip Panini for excessive parallels
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Old 11-10-2021, 09:06 PM   #4
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Cards in the base set
20-21 - 100
21-22 - 200

Parallels
20-21 - 25 (including Pick Wave retail exclusive)
21-22 - 25 (per sell sheet)

Numbered Parallel cards per 1-200
20-21 - 1962
21-22 - 2692

NOTE: 20-21 did a lot with bubbles and carbon that didn't get numbers and it seems that 21-22 is going away from that. THAT BEING SAID, I think we are still looking at an increase in per-player parallels for the "<300" volume... maybe +10%.

This talks about Lite and Hobby... but no blaster/retail mention (yet?).

I would expect an increase in product of 2x+ as is... so maybe 8,000 cases plus whatever double the retail from last year in Lite equivalents... whatever 55,000 blasters is.

The 200 card base set is good and bad... good because we'll get a deeper look at some of these rosters... bad because it waters down the Gavi or whoever that big hit is. If we see a prices get more reasonable? maybe a nice trade off. If they stay like they have this year? Kinda sucks.
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Old 11-10-2021, 11:19 PM   #5
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They’ve ruined this set with all the parallels. And still sticker autos. What’s the point…
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:39 AM   #6
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Delayed to (at least) May 25. More time for the paper to sit.
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:43 AM   #7
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paper must have flopped hard
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Old 04-19-2022, 11:04 AM   #8
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Old 04-24-2022, 10:54 AM   #9
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No retail like f1, if understand. Paper is the only way to pick it up and retail.
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Old 04-24-2022, 11:49 AM   #10
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No retail like f1, if understand. Paper is the only way to pick it up and retail.
There were chrome blasters last year….
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Old 04-24-2022, 01:52 PM   #11
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There were chrome blasters last year….
I know but the sell sheet has no blasters this year, replaced by hobby lite and ray waves
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Old 04-24-2022, 01:52 PM   #12
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I know but the sell sheet has no blasters this year, replaced by hobby lite and ray waves

Oh I haven’t seen that, just assumed chrome blasters this year


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Old 05-17-2022, 09:10 AM   #13
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Here is the checklist:

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/Chec...UCLC_FINAL.pdf
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Old 05-17-2022, 09:24 AM   #14
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Lite boxes are 132 on Blowout. Thinking about getting one. A few rookies in here may make it a safe purchase down the line. If not I lost before.


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Old 05-17-2022, 09:28 AM   #15
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Still showing Haaland auto on the checklist...have any surfaced from the paper set yet?
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:39 AM   #16
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Still showing Haaland auto on the checklist...have any surfaced from the paper set yet?
Zero.

Lets face it, there will be <5 in the whole set (chrome and paper)
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:18 PM   #17
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Lite boxes are 132 on Blowout. Thinking about getting one. A few rookies in here may make it a safe purchase down the line. If not I lost before.


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I was thinking the same, was curious how much Topps may charge for Lite. Figure I get them faster from BO anyway.
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Old 05-17-2022, 05:14 PM   #18
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Not huge in to soccer. How does this checklist compare the regular topps just released? Gavi still the chase?
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Old 05-17-2022, 05:35 PM   #19
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Not huge in to soccer. How does this checklist compare the regular topps just released? Gavi still the chase?
There's more than Gavi. There's also Jonathan David, Sesko and Gonçalves (though he is 24 this year).

Aside from those four though, the rest are medium to high risk punts.
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Old 05-17-2022, 05:54 PM   #20
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I’m shocked that Topps wouldn’t include Gavi autographs in this set. Seems like they’re taking a step back this year in delivering top quality rookie autographs for its consumers.
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I’m shocked that Topps wouldn’t include Gavi autographs in this set. Seems like they’re taking a step back this year in delivering top quality rookie autographs for its consumers.
It's not always as easy as "let's go get Gavi to sign our cards". Lots more goes into it than that. Commercials, player availability, etc.

I think there are some decent rookie autos in this checklist though.
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Old 05-18-2022, 07:29 AM   #22
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It's not always as easy as "let's go get Gavi to sign our cards". Lots more goes into it than that. Commercials, player availability, etc.

I think there are some decent rookie autos in this checklist though.
Like who?

Nobody is burning through cases looking for a Sesko or Charlie Savage auto.
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:52 AM   #23
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Like who?

Nobody is burning through cases looking for a Sesko or Charlie Savage auto.

This is 100% true.


There might be a few “decent” rookie autographs but hunting for “decent” rookies and not “superstar” rookies in a 100 card set is fine, but now that it is a massively overparalleled and overproduced 200 Card set is pointless. Gavi was a must have autograph in this set and Topps missing out on that opportunity to me is dumbfounding.
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Like who?

Nobody is burning through cases looking for a Sesko or Charlie Savage auto.

This is 100% true.


There might be a few “decent” rookie autographs but hunting for “decent” rookies and not “superstar” rookies in a 100 card set is fine, but now that it is a massively overparalleled and overproduced 200 Card set makes hunting for rookie autographs this year pointless. Gavi was a must have autograph in this set for many collectors and Topps missing out on that opportunity to me is dumbfounding. Whether they needed to add him as a redemption, whatever it took they should have done it. But you know what! As they’d say, too bad so sad and Oh well! They’ll still sell all their boxes. Hopefully it’ll keep boxes super cheap and affordable so that more kids and entrants can afford to get into soccer cards which is what truly is what I think is the true purpose of this set is anyways, like how they did with Topps flagship.

There will be many more products this year that I think will be much more worth the wait. Just have to be patient

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Old 05-18-2022, 11:31 AM   #25
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Even without the overproduction, the simple fact that they went from 100 to a 200 player checklist kills the value. Every valuable player would have been in a 100 player checklist, they just added a lot of filler for the rest.

At best, if last year's boxes are going for 400, this should be going for 240 (60% of that). And that's with an inferior rookie class and a possible increase in print run (not to mention market saturation).
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