How did this card only get a BGS 4…

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-11-2021, 09:26 AM

…those corners are so sharp!

(Not my card. Picture taken from Goldin Auctions Instagram account.)

hxcmilkshake · 08-11-2021, 09:30 AM

I mean, if that's in your grade pile....go do stamps or coins or something....

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dengbang · 08-11-2021, 09:32 AM

Prizm No Left Border Parallel

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sethc1020 · 08-11-2021, 09:35 AM

How in the world was this even a candidate to have graded in the first place?? This is a prime reason for the backlogs! I bet the grader got a good laugh out of this one.

gowizards0 · 08-11-2021, 09:38 AM

somebody graded it because it is unique, obviously wasn't expecting a 10...

I know cards that are miscut/super off centered go for a premium in Pokemon, but in basketball? ehh

duron · 08-11-2021, 09:38 AM

Perfect for an ip auto

DiamondDonovan · 08-11-2021, 09:40 AM

ebay 1 of 1 baby!!!!

90skid · 08-11-2021, 09:41 AM

I think it's obvious here that the card was sent in purely to "test" BGS and see what they come back with on it.

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 08-11-2021, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethc1020

How in the world was this even a candidate to have graded in the first place?? This is a prime reason for the backlogs! I bet the grader got a good laugh out of this one.

Some people think this is the 1980s-90s and these are error cards because of the crappy centering or subtle print imperfections. They hope it becomes some desired anomaly, and therein has more value.

This isn’t the coin game kids...

fastnbulbous · 08-11-2021, 09:45 AM

Unlucky?
2+9+9+9.5 = 29.5
29.5/4 = 7.375

MiamiMarlinsFan · 08-11-2021, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90skid

I think it's obvious here that the card was sent in purely to "test" BGS and see what they come back with on it.

To test if the grader is completely blind?

Orangejello727 · 08-11-2021, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastnbulbous

Unlucky?
2+9+9+9.5 = 29.5
29.5/4 = 7.375

Isn't there a rule for BGS whereby the overall grade cannot be 0.5 pt higher than the lowest sub grade?

Asian62150 · 08-11-2021, 09:48 AM

I thought the best you could do is 1 full grade above the lowest sub grade.

Nomad · 08-11-2021, 09:53 AM

So, even in the 1980s or 1990s this would not have held value.

The more I delve into it, the more I find that "classic" sports errors do hold significant, sometimes very significant value. It's a myth perpetuated by grading companies and manufactured scarcity parallelists that they don't, I suppose.....

there are just not many cool errors in basketball. Most are of this misprint sort, or stat errors.

The only ones I see as holding real value are those like rare silver foil variations from mid-90s....

bloodwings19 · 08-11-2021, 10:02 AM

Panini should buy it back and put it on the wall for their quality assurance team.

SlickRick · 08-11-2021, 10:23 AM

It's typically just 1/2 point max above lowest grade and 1 pt for large differences, but in cases of huge discrepancies like this, they must have let it slide

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spurs50fan · 08-11-2021, 10:23 AM

PSA7? 8?

BlowoutBuzz · 08-11-2021, 10:28 AM

A 2 on centering is generous.

Also as to why grade? It's LeBron. It's also novelty and a player collector would probably want it. I'd grade that (as a joke) if I pulled that. A joke might sell better than you think, too ... since it's LeBron.

ChefCurry312 · 08-11-2021, 10:37 AM

How is it not a 10? It was "fresh out the pack"? Lol that's one of the worst misprints from Panini I've ever seen. I'm guessing it was probably graded as a joke/meme.

Poonchka · 08-11-2021, 10:46 AM

"HOW FINAL GRADES ARE DETERMINED
Here is how we do it!
The overall numerical grade is not a simple average of the four report card grades. Beckett Grading Services uses an algorithm which determines the final grade using the 4 sub grades on the front label of the card holder. The lowest overall grade is the first category to observe because it is the most obvious defect, and the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade.

Example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 9
Surface = 8
Final grade = 8.5

The reason that this card received an 8.5 is that even though the Surface grade was an 8 (the lowest grade overall), the 9.5 grades on Centering and Corners were strong enough to bring it up a full point to reach the 8.5 level.

Another example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 8.5
Surface = 9
Final grade = 9

Upon first glance, it may appear that this card should've received a grade different than a 9. The most this card could receive was .5 (or one-half grade) above the lowest sub-grade. The Edges were the lowest in this case, hence, the card received the overall 9 grade. Even though Centering and Corners received grades of 9.5, a key point to remember is that the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9.

Also, please note that the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a "7" (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade)."

https://www.beckett.com/grading/faq

cboog3105 · 08-11-2021, 11:20 AM

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Wiseysez · 08-11-2021, 11:42 AM

Primed for a 9.5 with the right trim job.

k13 · 08-11-2021, 12:33 PM

PSA would have given that a 9.

The Finest · 08-11-2021, 01:59 PM

I think this is a fun card to have graded.

hauntedcomputer · 08-11-2021, 02:00 PM

"1/1!!! PSA crossover 10!!! INVE$T"

08-11-2021, 09:26 AM	#1
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,687	How did this card only get a BGS 4… …those corners are so sharp! (Not my card. Picture taken from Goldin Auctions Instagram account.)

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dengbang Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,055	Prizm No Left Border Parallel Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk __________________ I collect Johnny "Red" Kerr & Luol Deng

08-11-2021, 09:35 AM	#4
sethc1020 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,657 sethc_1020	How in the world was this even a candidate to have graded in the first place?? This is a prime reason for the backlogs! I bet the grader got a good laugh out of this one. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/151086784@N06/28H47r

08-11-2021, 09:38 AM	#5
gowizards0 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: dc Posts: 7,221	somebody graded it because it is unique, obviously wasn't expecting a 10... I know cards that are miscut/super off centered go for a premium in Pokemon, but in basketball? ehh __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/76567484@N05/x3no8r Collect Pokemon, 2000s Basketball Football Follow me on Instagram! CardCatcherJ

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08-11-2021, 09:30 AM	#2
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,505 hxcmilkshake	I mean, if that's in your grade pile....go do stamps or coins or something.... Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

08-11-2021, 09:40 AM	#7
DiamondDonovan Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 796	ebay 1 of 1 baby!!!!

08-11-2021, 09:41 AM	#8
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,853	I think it's obvious here that the card was sent in purely to "test" BGS and see what they come back with on it.

08-11-2021, 09:45 AM	#10
fastnbulbous Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 184	Unlucky? 2+9+9+9.5 = 29.5 29.5/4 = 7.375 __________________ https://www.instagram.com/fastbulbous_/

08-11-2021, 09:48 AM	#13
Asian62150 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,564 Asian62150	I thought the best you could do is 1 full grade above the lowest sub grade. __________________ IG: Asian62150

08-11-2021, 09:53 AM	#14
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	So, even in the 1980s or 1990s this would not have held value. The more I delve into it, the more I find that "classic" sports errors do hold significant, sometimes very significant value. It's a myth perpetuated by grading companies and manufactured scarcity parallelists that they don't, I suppose..... there are just not many cool errors in basketball. Most are of this misprint sort, or stat errors. The only ones I see as holding real value are those like rare silver foil variations from mid-90s.... Last edited by Nomad; 08-11-2021 at 09:59 AM.

08-11-2021, 10:02 AM	#15
bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,002	Panini should buy it back and put it on the wall for their quality assurance team.

08-11-2021, 10:23 AM	#16
SlickRick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 463	It's typically just 1/2 point max above lowest grade and 1 pt for large differences, but in cases of huge discrepancies like this, they must have let it slide Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk Last edited by SlickRick; 08-11-2021 at 10:28 AM.

08-11-2021, 10:23 AM	#17
spurs50fan Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 3,943	PSA7? 8?

08-11-2021, 10:28 AM	#18
BlowoutBuzz Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 14,061	A 2 on centering is generous. Also as to why grade? It's LeBron. It's also novelty and a player collector would probably want it. I'd grade that (as a joke) if I pulled that. A joke might sell better than you think, too ... since it's LeBron. __________________ www.blowoutbuzz.com >>><<< Got something cool or interesting that might be worth a story? Know someone whose collection could be profiled? Send me a DM.

08-11-2021, 10:37 AM	#19
ChefCurry312 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 569	How is it not a 10? It was "fresh out the pack"? Lol that's one of the worst misprints from Panini I've ever seen. I'm guessing it was probably graded as a joke/meme.

08-11-2021, 10:46 AM	#20
Poonchka Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,290 poonchkaparty poonchka	"HOW FINAL GRADES ARE DETERMINED Here is how we do it! The overall numerical grade is not a simple average of the four report card grades. Beckett Grading Services uses an algorithm which determines the final grade using the 4 sub grades on the front label of the card holder. The lowest overall grade is the first category to observe because it is the most obvious defect, and the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade. Example : Centering = 9.5 Corners = 9.5 Edges = 9 Surface = 8 Final grade = 8.5 The reason that this card received an 8.5 is that even though the Surface grade was an 8 (the lowest grade overall), the 9.5 grades on Centering and Corners were strong enough to bring it up a full point to reach the 8.5 level. Another example : Centering = 9.5 Corners = 9.5 Edges = 8.5 Surface = 9 Final grade = 9 Upon first glance, it may appear that this card should've received a grade different than a 9. The most this card could receive was .5 (or one-half grade) above the lowest sub-grade. The Edges were the lowest in this case, hence, the card received the overall 9 grade. Even though Centering and Corners received grades of 9.5, a key point to remember is that the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9. Also, please note that the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a "7" (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade)." https://www.beckett.com/grading/faq Last edited by Poonchka; 08-11-2021 at 10:48 AM.

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08-11-2021, 11:42 AM	#22
Wiseysez Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: PA Posts: 1,751 swis5842	Primed for a 9.5 with the right trim job.

08-11-2021, 12:33 PM	#23
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	PSA would have given that a 9.

08-11-2021, 01:59 PM	#24
The Finest Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 661	I think this is a fun card to have graded.

08-11-2021, 02:00 PM	#25
hauntedcomputer Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: NC mountains Posts: 1,097 hauntedcomputer	"1/1!!! PSA crossover 10!!! INVE$T" __________________ +++ The market is always right, even when it's dumb. More cards are overgraded than undergraded. Change my mind.