PSA Complete Through Date (CTD) Tracker

KhalDrogo · 03-01-2021, 06:52 AM

This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

phdbeckett · 03-01-2021, 07:22 AM

Well, I have 2 Express and 1 super Express in line. I will let you know how those go.

xtnimot · 03-01-2021, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

Where is that located?

CheapThief · 03-01-2021, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xtnimot

Where is that located?

On the 'customer communication' page, just above all the blah blah blah about why they don't use a FIFO model.

letsgocapitals · 03-01-2021, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xtnimot

Where is that located?

Here you go... an actual link...

https://www.psacard.com/communication

Transparency is a good thing!

Freshmaker · 03-01-2021, 07:29 AM

I kinda question the accuracy of that tracker. Do they really have a regular order entered Nov 1 still there? Those are taking 4-6 weeks currently

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KhalDrogo · 03-01-2021, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Freshmaker

I kinda question the accuracy of that tracker. Do they really have a regular order entered Nov 1 still there? Those are taking 4-6 weeks currently

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I'm sure they do. It's not always one grader doing the order. If someone sent in a 300 card Regular order with Pokemon, vintage football, ultra-modern basketball, and pre-war baseball, it may take awhile to work its way through.

I am most interested in seeing how far behind these times fall in proportion to the passing days. Hopefully they update the page daily.

Freshmaker · 03-01-2021, 07:49 AM

Yeah - it would be cool if there was a way to download the data and then track it. Obviously there’s not, but would be nice. Then we could graph the changes

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rcgdodge · 03-01-2021, 07:52 AM

wow, so my order that I sent out last October still has 6 more months to go.

That'll be over 1 year from mailing it out to having it back. Insane.

rwperu34 · 03-01-2021, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Freshmaker

Yeah - it would be cool if there was a way to download the data and then track it. Obviously there’s not, but would be nice. Then we could graph the changes

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This data would take like four seconds to put in Excel. It's literally only 10 entries.

mcb0419 · 03-01-2021, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rcgdodge

wow, so my order that I sent out last October still has 6 more months to go.

That'll be over 1 year from mailing it out to having it back. Insane.

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card

alphaomegas · 03-01-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mcb0419

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card

Are you stupid people will continue to send in junk. They just pass there fee into the customer. Prices going to the moon!!! I’ll be sending in thousands still probably every card I open and see.

CheapThief · 03-01-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mcb0419

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card

Agreed. Also, this should really slow down the amount of stuff that's been getting kicked to the front of the line via express and economy orders, which means they should be able to start making inroads on bulk.

phdbeckett · 03-01-2021, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

This data would take like four seconds to put in Excel. It's literally only 10 entries.

Right. Just subtract the integer of today's date and then have a formula to calculate business days, and their posted dates.

alphaomegas · 03-01-2021, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CheapThief

Agreed. Also, this should really slow down the amount of stuff that's been getting kicked to the front of the line via express and economy orders, which means they should be able to start making inroads on bulk.

Screw that I pay express the big fee and I want it back. Pay to get rich in this market next time you pay the fee. Turn $100 raw card to 8k. I’ll keep paying the fees express.

KhalDrogo · 03-01-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by phdbeckett

Right. Just subtract the integer of today's date and then have a formula to calculate business days, and their posted dates.

Yes. I will plan to do this probably twice a month if they update at least that frequently.

ksemmel · 03-01-2021, 08:46 AM

Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless

rfgilles · 03-01-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

It's a nice step, but undermined by the fact that orders aren't graded in the order that they are received. It also doesn't help that this data isn't front and center when a customer goes to submit.

xavieronly1 · 03-01-2021, 11:13 AM

Regular: 1 Nov 2020

Are you sure the date is correct? I sent my "regular" order on Nov 15, 2020 and got back to me Dec 30, 2020.

Kuch86 · 03-01-2021, 11:29 AM

Yeah, it's not a good way to gauge expected wait time.

It's just showing the last date every possible order at the given service level has been completed by.

KhalDrogo · 03-01-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuch86

Yeah, it's not a good way to gauge expected wait time.

It's just showing the last date every possible order at the given service level has been completed by.

Internally, I’m sure they are looking at median and quartile times. This at least is a hard stop for people to look at. More info is always better.

TheHeel · 03-01-2021, 12:41 PM

FWIW, I have an ultra modern bulk sub that arrived on 7/23 and entered on 9/15. It is in Q2 as of last Thursday.

SleeperCards · 03-01-2021, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

I nominate you to post a weekly update

It's nice to see it officially instead of crowdsourcing it like we were in the other thread.

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Yes. I will plan to do this probably twice a month if they update at least that frequently.

I didn't read the entire thread obviously.

StlScott · 03-01-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless

They are trying to make themselves look good by manipulating facts. This isnt about transparency. I totally agree with you.

rfgilles · 03-01-2021, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless

Or burying this information at the bottom of a Customer Communication page instead of on the submission landing page.

Does it bother anyone else that PSA doesn't even accurately represent their cases on the site? The cases are made to look black.

03-01-2021, 06:52 AM	#1
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,417	PSA Complete Through Date (CTD) Tracker This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times. March 1, 2021 Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021 Super Express: 23 Feb 2021 Express: 7 Jan 2021 Regular: 1 Nov 2020 Economy: 2 Aug 2020 Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020 Value - Modern: 30 June 2020 Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020 Value - TCG: 8 July 2020 Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

03-01-2021, 07:22 AM	#2
phdbeckett Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,835 phdbeckett	Well, I have 2 Express and 1 super Express in line. I will let you know how those go. __________________ Collecting: Kobe Bryant LeBron James Michael Jordan-Shaquille O'Neal-Ken Griffey J.R. 1990s-Peyton Manning < 2004

03-01-2021, 07:52 AM	#9
rcgdodge Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Delaware Posts: 25,136 rcgdodge	wow, so my order that I sent out last October still has 6 more months to go. That'll be over 1 year from mailing it out to having it back. Insane. __________________ Looking For: 2013 Bowman Chrome Joe Mauer - - Black, Yellow, Red, Printing Plates

03-01-2021, 08:46 AM	#17
ksemmel Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: South Jersey Posts: 9,263 sjcards31 ksemmel	Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading." Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless __________________ Not looking to trade unless my thread states so. My prices are valid for 24 hours after my last thread bump

03-01-2021, 11:13 AM	#19
xavieronly1 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13,006	Regular: 1 Nov 2020 Are you sure the date is correct? I sent my "regular" order on Nov 15, 2020 and got back to me Dec 30, 2020. __________________ Instagram IG: xavieronly1

03-01-2021, 07:29 AM	#6
Freshmaker Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta Posts: 763 atliencollectibles	I kinda question the accuracy of that tracker. Do they really have a regular order entered Nov 1 still there? Those are taking 4-6 weeks currently Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-01-2021, 07:49 AM	#8
Freshmaker Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Atlanta Posts: 763 atliencollectibles	Yeah - it would be cool if there was a way to download the data and then track it. Obviously there’s not, but would be nice. Then we could graph the changes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-01-2021, 11:29 AM	#20
Kuch86 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 379 SUTHE49 KUCH86	Yeah, it's not a good way to gauge expected wait time. It's just showing the last date every possible order at the given service level has been completed by.

03-01-2021, 12:41 PM	#22
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,757	FWIW, I have an ultra modern bulk sub that arrived on 7/23 and entered on 9/15. It is in Q2 as of last Thursday. __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals: