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Old 08-03-2019, 01:02 PM   #1
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Was standing next to a guy that was working on getting $5700 refunded for a PSA 9 86 Fleer Jordan RC he bought yesterday. He took it to PSA to get it re-slabbed in a new holder. PSA gave him a letter saying it wasn’t authentic. I saw the letter in hand as they were looking at it at the dealer’s table.

Guy said he had no idea it looked authentic to him.

The dealer assured him they’d “take care of it” and that they wanted to talk to PSA first before issuing the refund.

Man this is just scary, the news about the trimming scandals and then seeing this first hand. Kind of downer for me on this trip.


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Who is the dealer?
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:09 PM   #3
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It was at Dave and Adams Card World


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Thought I’d share...

Was standing next to a guy that was working on getting $5700 refunded for a PSA 9 86 Fleer Jordan RC he bought yesterday. He took it to PSA to get it re-slabbed in a new holder. PSA gave him a letter saying it wasn’t authentic. I saw the letter in hand as they were looking at it at the dealer’s table.

Guy said he had no idea it looked authentic to him.

The dealer assured him they’d “take care of it” and that they wanted to talk to PSA first before issuing the refund.

Man this is just scary, the news about the trimming scandals and then seeing this first hand. Kind of downer for me on this trip.


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So they graded it a 9 and then said it was fake when he wanted it reslabbed.
Seems this guy will be getting his money back from Dave and Adams and they will be getting their money back from PSA.
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So they graded it a 9 and then said it was fake when he wanted it reslabbed.
Seems this guy will be getting his money back from Dave and Adams and they will be getting their money back from PSA.
Slab could be fake also. Yes this is a hobby that contains a lot disturbed/messed up humans who love taking advantage of others in any way possible.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:26 PM   #6
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Slab could be fake also. Yes this is a hobby that contains a lot disturbed/messed up humans who love taking advantage of others in any way possible.
Correct. Those have been around for years and years. I’ve even seen some suspect looking slabbed Jordan’s for sale on eBay.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:36 PM   #7
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D&A had 2 of them in the display case.

I bought the 2nd one today.

Currently in line at PSA. Will let you know the results. I have no doubt D&A will make things right. But here’s to hoping it’s real!
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I am wondering if they were bought before Reed started working for them.
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I prefer the newest PSA slab style vs. older ones.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:01 PM   #10
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Slab could be fake also. Yes this is a hobby that contains a lot disturbed/messed up humans who love taking advantage of others in any way possible.
I’m willing to bet D&A could tell the difference with a faked slab.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:10 PM   #11
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Need to wait 2 hours.


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D&A had 2 of them in the display case.

I bought the 2nd one today.

Currently in line at PSA. Will let you know the results. I have no doubt D&A will make things right. But here’s to hoping it’s real!
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:35 PM   #12
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I have nothing against D&A.

Actually... I've partnered with them for some work in the past & it was great.

However, as a buyer... I've had a handful of issues with them.

Not disparaging, but there is a reason I am loyal to BO.

Hope all parties find a solution in this matter.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:31 PM   #13
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Update. It’s a fake. Slab was tampered with and card was replaced along with the tag.

Got my money back.
Devastated. Was my dream card.. saved up a whole year for it. ��#@♂️
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Update. It’s a fake. Slab was tampered with and card was replaced along with the tag.

Got my money back.
Devastated. Was my dream card.. saved up a whole year for it. ��#@♂️
Wow! Thats surprising! Youd expect them to have knowledgeable individuals purchasing these kinds of items.

By that I mean their employees!
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:39 PM   #15
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Where did D&A say they came from? Not saying they're in on anything shady, but you would expect a large company like that to be able to spot red flags on $5k cards they're buying and selling. Especially cards that are notorious for being faked.
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Glad you checked it out today at PSA before the national ended... Might have made it more difficult
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Update. It’s a fake. Slab was tampered with and card was replaced along with the tag.

Got my money back.
Devastated. Was my dream card.. saved up a whole year for it. ��#@♂️
The good news is I imagine at that show you can throw a rock in any direction and hit another PSA 9 that’s not fake.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:26 PM   #18
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It’s $500 deposit and we need to get it verified by PSA before I pay the rest.
I wonder how many vendors who own will agree to that?


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Old 08-03-2019, 06:27 PM   #19
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Thank you to the OP for being nosy lmaoooo saved me $5700!
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At least dave and adams has a big enuf backbone to make it right.
Unlike some other shady dealers in todays market.

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Old 08-03-2019, 06:44 PM   #21
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It’s $500 deposit and we need to get it verified by PSA before I pay the rest.
I wonder how many vendors who own will agree to that?
Why are you wasting your time like that? Post good pictures on the basketball section here and we can give you a quick opinion.

Your call.
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It’s $500 deposit and we need to get it verified by PSA before I pay the rest.
I wonder how many vendors who own will agree to that?
You could buy a nice BGS 9 for less and not have to worry about

A. Fake and or open and sealed cases
B. A holder that will damage the card as it bangs its edges against the gasket

Or yes just post it here and we will tell you. I’d love to see the one you bought originally.
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Why are you wasting your time like that? Post good pictures on the basketball section here and we can give you a quick opinion.

Your call.
Lol. Not sure if serious. Obviously the money means a lot to him. D&A didn't spot the fake. I'm sure the peace of mind is worth the wait to him.
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Lol. Not sure if serious. Obviously the money means a lot to him. D&A didn't spot the fake. I'm sure the peace of mind is worth the wait to him.
I consider myself well-versed in counterfeit Jordan Fleer RCs. There are may others here that likely know much more than me. Just trying to help. I’m just saying, we could point out obvious fakes and save him a bit of time.
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I consider myself well-versed in counterfeit Jordan Fleer RCs. There are may others here that likely know much more than me. Just trying to help. I’m just saying, we could point out obvious fakes and save him a bit of time.
Agreed

There is much more specialized knowledge here than just about anywhere
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