Ugh....WORST SHIPPING I'VE SEEN

smsportscards · 09-22-2017, 01:27 PM

So I bought a 2014 Prizm Tie Dye Anquan Boldin on ebay. Buyer has free shipping but the card was BIN/BO.

I ended up getting it for $23.50, which I was ok with.

I received the card today in a PWE. The card was in a rigid top loader. There was a penny sleeve in the rigid, BUT THE CARD WAS NOT IN THE PENNY SLEEVE!

Look, I understand using this practice (albeit putting the card in the penny) for a $.99-3.00 with free shipping. But when a buyer spends $23 for an item, I would think you at least send in a bubble.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but definitely frustrated. The back corners have dings and I am sure its because of this.

Rant over.....

hugh · 09-22-2017, 01:36 PM

the seller was wrong for shipping that way without saying so ahead of time

seth2720 · 09-22-2017, 02:29 PM

Yea I'd be upset too, Id leave a neutral or consider leaving a negative. Talk to seller and get refund because that's BS

smsportscards · 09-22-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by seth2720

Yea I'd be upset too, Id leave a neutral or consider leaving a negative. Talk to seller and get refund because that's BS

Yeah....I am awaiting a response. He has 98.7% feedback with only 168 so I took a chance.....

Cervantes · 09-22-2017, 04:04 PM

Not good.

hairysasquatch · 09-22-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smsportscards

Yeah....I am awaiting a response. He has 98.7% feedback with only 168 so I took a chance.....

Old pizza box with grease and cheese wrapped with masking tape.

mrdallas · 09-22-2017, 05:24 PM

I would be pissed. Not to mention people that ship a card in a top loader w/o a penny sleeve Blows my mind

ucLAkers · 09-22-2017, 05:35 PM

Return with DC.....and NEG.
Gotta be smart if your gonna sell on eBay. Dont care how you ship but it better be USPS fault not yours!
This is definatly not USPS fault.

If the card had arrived condition "as described" then only a message with a "you been warned for less mellow cats" and I leave no FB.

Tones · 09-22-2017, 06:13 PM

i once got a card i payed $50 for in a brown paper bag folded up and taped. card was 35pt in a 100pt roploader taped over no penny sleeve.

Bassplayah101 · 09-22-2017, 06:23 PM

Not acceptable.
I send 8 dollar cards in bubbles.. its better than risking a return because the sorting machines mangled it.

RogerGodahell · 09-22-2017, 08:01 PM

He couldn't afford a piece of tape

HBMC · 09-22-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassplayah101

Not acceptable.
I send 8 dollar cards in bubbles.. its better than risking a return because the sorting machines mangled it.

I bubblemail $1 cards

smsportscards · 09-22-2017, 09:36 PM

As a frequent seller on eBay.....i ship EVERYTHING in penny sleeve, top loader, 4 base cards, team bag, in a bubble envelope. I charge $3 shipping for unlimited auctions.

Its all about caring about the hobby!

smsportscards · 09-22-2017, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Return with DC.....and NEG.

If this wasnt a tie dye that RARELY show up now 3 years later, I would definitely be sending back. I messaged seller, if he doesnt respond within 48 hours, I will just leave negative and move on. If he does and offers a reduced price i will leave just leave neutral.

manutdr16 · 09-22-2017, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

He couldn't afford a piece of tape

I never understood why (most) everyone uses tape to seal toploader. If you just use a piece of plain paper to snugly wrap the toploader, there's no way the card can fall out. It always annoys me how a perfectly good toploader is ruined by tape (that's not blue tape).

Soxrule111 · 09-23-2017, 08:19 AM

Ok so your going to neg him for shipping pwe when it was free shipping? So a neg for YOU assuming price = bubble mailer? How is that the sellers fault? He shipped for free and went the cheapest route. Thatsbwhen buying a $40 book Nd complaining it was sent media mail not priority.

I just think you guys are all jumping gun and not taking any accountability but then again since when do buyers in the hobby....

sportscards0513 · 09-23-2017, 08:26 AM

I bought a BGS graded Carson Wentz 1/1 for $1200 dollars about 3 weeks ago and it was shipped to me in a small priority mail flat rate box all by itself. No bubble wrap or protection, just the BGS case flopping around inside this box. The seller is extremely lucky it didn't break...

zonacats8 · 09-23-2017, 09:58 AM

I've had worse, bought a lot of like 4 or 5 cards once and they were in top loaders with no sleeves and shipped in a pop tart box barely taped shut.

I opened it so quickly to make sure they weren't damaged I never thought to take a picture of it first, wish I had, it was ridiculous.

smsportscards · 09-23-2017, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Ok so your going to neg him for shipping pwe when it was free shipping? So a neg for YOU assuming price = bubble mailer? How is that the sellers fault? He shipped for free and went the cheapest route. Thatsbwhen buying a $40 book Nd complaining it was sent media mail not priority.

I just think you guys are all jumping gun and not taking any accountability but then again since when do buyers in the hobby....

I also sell a ton of watches priced from $100-$1500 and offer FREE shipping. Why? To eliminate the possibility of a blemish for someone thinking my price of $8.99 for Priority Shipping is too high, when it actually costs $8.65 for a 1-2 lb box.

The price of shipping is arbitrary. People charge varying prices for shipping from free to as much as $3.99 for cards. And guess what, most people still send in bubble unless its clearly outlined in the description. When auctions outline that it will be PWE it sets the expectation of that risk. When I pay $23.50 for a card, I expect it to be protected.

DalliLlama11 · 09-23-2017, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Ok so your going to neg him for shipping pwe when it was free shipping? So a neg for YOU assuming price = bubble mailer? How is that the sellers fault? He shipped for free and went the cheapest route. Thatsbwhen buying a $40 book Nd complaining it was sent media mail not priority.

I just think you guys are all jumping gun and not taking any accountability but then again since when do buyers in the hobby....

I see both sides to the argument. But putting free shipping isn't an out to go the cheapest route possible. High end auctions offer free shipping to entice more buyers and because at the price point, shipping is tiny. That doesn't mean they should be shipping $1,000+ cards in PWE because they offered free shipping. Theres no rule book for when a PWE/Bubble mailer should be used when it comes to free shipping. But I think its fairly common that any card over $20 is going to be more than just a PWE. And that isn't just for the sellers convenience. The buyer could have easily said he never received it and the seller is out that $23, which is also pretty significant for a card these days.

NickM · 09-23-2017, 10:52 AM

I once received a rare vintage card taped directly to a cardboard backing, with scotch tape.
Paper loss on the front.

meandsharon11 · 09-23-2017, 11:06 AM

If I sell on eBay in pwe I state it clearly in the item description. I also put it in a penny sleeve.

IronMonkey415 · 09-23-2017, 12:02 PM

If I sell on Ebay and use PWE I would include an image of the PWE and say the cards will be ship in here.

attkiss · 09-23-2017, 02:41 PM

I once had a $10 card shipped in a taped pennysleeve with post-it notes with my address and stamps taped around the sleeve. No envelope at all, postage right on the card. It was actually in relatively decent condition. Just a dinged corner

seth2720 · 09-23-2017, 03:05 PM

Who wants a good laugh???? I got a card the other day off of ebay, in a white envelope with no sleeve or toploader!! Worst thing I've ever seen it. Believe or not the card was straight from a pack like condition, BUT

09-22-2017, 01:27 PM	#1
smsportscards Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 489 sms-sportscards smsportscards	Ugh....WORST SHIPPING I'VE SEEN So I bought a 2014 Prizm Tie Dye Anquan Boldin on ebay. Buyer has free shipping but the card was BIN/BO. I ended up getting it for $23.50, which I was ok with. I received the card today in a PWE. The card was in a rigid top loader. There was a penny sleeve in the rigid, BUT THE CARD WAS NOT IN THE PENNY SLEEVE! Look, I understand using this practice (albeit putting the card in the penny) for a $.99-3.00 with free shipping. But when a buyer spends $23 for an item, I would think you at least send in a bubble. Maybe I'm wrong here, but definitely frustrated. The back corners have dings and I am sure its because of this. Rant over..... __________________ GO NOLES!! GO HORNS!! GO MAVS!! GO RANGERS!!

09-22-2017, 01:36 PM	#2
hugh Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Military APO in Italy Posts: 11,160	the seller was wrong for shipping that way without saying so ahead of time __________________ Peeve: people calling adults in their early to late 20's "kids"

09-22-2017, 02:29 PM	#3
seth2720 Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,364	Yea I'd be upset too, Id leave a neutral or consider leaving a negative. Talk to seller and get refund because that's BS __________________ Happily collecting the 90's (also buying 2000/01 auto memorabilia cards and 2000 prestige award winning materials triple autos

09-22-2017, 04:04 PM	#5
Cervantes Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 6,361	Not good. __________________ *Always looking for Taj Gibson - currently searching for 2009 Panini Threads Rookie Class patch auto I need "G" "I "B" "N"*

09-22-2017, 06:13 PM	#9
Tones Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Beachin', FL Posts: 17,295 itstones Tones	i once got a card i payed $50 for in a brown paper bag folded up and taped. card was 35pt in a 100pt roploader taped over no penny sleeve. __________________ THERE'S ONLY ONE TEAM IN LONDON! Cody Garbrandt, George Springer, Kemba Walker, Marco Reus, & Tage Thompson Arsenal, Bruins, Celtics, Patriots, UConn & Yankees

09-22-2017, 05:24 PM	#7
mrdallas Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,835 robbyg8	I would be pissed. Not to mention people that ship a card in a top loader w/o a penny sleeve Blows my mind

09-22-2017, 05:35 PM	#8
ucLAkers Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: CaliZona Posts: 8,606 mintrobmint Totally Sucks	Return with DC.....and NEG. Gotta be smart if your gonna sell on eBay. Dont care how you ship but it better be USPS fault not yours! This is definatly not USPS fault. If the card had arrived condition "as described" then only a message with a "you been warned for less mellow cats" and I leave no FB.

09-22-2017, 06:23 PM	#10
Bassplayah101 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: 1 Patriot Place Posts: 7,993	Not acceptable. I send 8 dollar cards in bubbles.. its better than risking a return because the sorting machines mangled it.

09-22-2017, 08:01 PM	#11
RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	He couldn't afford a piece of tape

09-22-2017, 09:36 PM	#13
smsportscards Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 489 sms-sportscards smsportscards	As a frequent seller on eBay.....i ship EVERYTHING in penny sleeve, top loader, 4 base cards, team bag, in a bubble envelope. I charge $3 shipping for unlimited auctions. Its all about caring about the hobby! __________________ GO NOLES!! GO HORNS!! GO MAVS!! GO RANGERS!!

09-23-2017, 08:19 AM	#16
Soxrule111 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DeKalb Posts: 14,849 Soxrule111	Ok so your going to neg him for shipping pwe when it was free shipping? So a neg for YOU assuming price = bubble mailer? How is that the sellers fault? He shipped for free and went the cheapest route. Thatsbwhen buying a $40 book Nd complaining it was sent media mail not priority. I just think you guys are all jumping gun and not taking any accountability but then again since when do buyers in the hobby.... __________________ Texans Future Super Bowl Champions

09-23-2017, 08:26 AM	#17
sportscards0513 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5,967	I bought a BGS graded Carson Wentz 1/1 for $1200 dollars about 3 weeks ago and it was shipped to me in a small priority mail flat rate box all by itself. No bubble wrap or protection, just the BGS case flopping around inside this box. The seller is extremely lucky it didn't break... __________________ PC:Carson Wentz,Michael Vick, Eagles All BGS 9.5 Contenders Rookie Tickets of Great Players/Players With Potential BGS 9.5 Rookies Of Great Players Before The Release of Contenders

09-23-2017, 09:58 AM	#18
zonacats8 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 16,147	I've had worse, bought a lot of like 4 or 5 cards once and they were in top loaders with no sleeves and shipped in a pop tart box barely taped shut. I opened it so quickly to make sure they weren't damaged I never thought to take a picture of it first, wish I had, it was ridiculous. __________________ PC: Carolina Panthers and University of Arizona players, especially in UofA uniform Jonathan Stewart PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/jonathan-stewart-pc Star Lotulelei PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/star-lotulelei-pc

09-23-2017, 10:52 AM	#21
NickM Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,353	I once received a rare vintage card taped directly to a cardboard backing, with scotch tape. Paper loss on the front. __________________ 1st superfractor hit by RK Collectibles. 2014 Bowman Chrome Mini BB Chris Kohler. "What do we want?" "Time travel." "And when do we want it?" "It's irrelevant."

09-23-2017, 11:06 AM	#22
meandsharon11 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 5,180	If I sell on eBay in pwe I state it clearly in the item description. I also put it in a penny sleeve. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196644596@N08/albums

09-23-2017, 12:02 PM	#23
IronMonkey415 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 44,118 ironmonkeyfromsf	If I sell on Ebay and use PWE I would include an image of the PWE and say the cards will be ship in here.

09-23-2017, 02:41 PM	#24
attkiss Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 499	I once had a $10 card shipped in a taped pennysleeve with post-it notes with my address and stamps taped around the sleeve. No envelope at all, postage right on the card. It was actually in relatively decent condition. Just a dinged corner

09-23-2017, 03:05 PM	#25
seth2720 Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,364	Who wants a good laugh???? I got a card the other day off of ebay, in a white envelope with no sleeve or toploader!! Worst thing I've ever seen it. Believe or not the card was straight from a pack like condition, BUT __________________ Happily collecting the 90's (also buying 2000/01 auto memorabilia cards and 2000 prestige award winning materials triple autos