Rangers Refusing to Play against Astros, do not want to lose home games

[gorillaz]

If this is true, what a crock of crap the Rangers are.

https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/...86991504617473

[texmcpherson]

All I saw was that the Astros will be playing the next two series at Tropicana.

[Keyser Soze]

That reporter is legit.

[ucLAkers]

I will wait for both sides to comment.....

[cnewby]

Why? Stros suck right now.

[Ottomatic]

Tight playoff race and home field advantage is very real. Don't blame em, worth a shot.

[PejaD]

Ironically if there is serious damage to Minute Maid Park after this week, the Astros may have to realistically call Arlington home for the rest of the year.

Introducing your 2017 World Champion Houston-Tampa Bay[-Texas] Astros...

[ArsonCuff]

Originally Posted by gorillaz

If this is true, what a crock of crap the Rangers are.

https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/...86991504617473

Well, the fans who bought tickets to the Rangers games on those dates might disagree and be happy their tickets still get them the games in the right place on the right day.

[batottu]

That's the Rangers call to make and they have every right to refuse to work with the Astros. They just gained 3 neutral site games in exchange for 3 away games. That's a good thing for them.

Personally I think it's a poor decision and I hope they fade fast in the WC so that the series they are refusing to give up is nothing, but three meaningless games. I also understand there there are two sides to every story.

For people in Houston and the surrounding areas, we have bigger things to worry about.

[goldencards]

Stfu! They won't switch the series' like pansies. Really?? I hope Giles throws a fastball at banisters nuts

[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by goldencards

Stfu! They won't switch the series' like pansies. Really?? I hope Giles throws a fastball at banisters nuts

They offered to play this series at Arlington and give all,of the money to Houston. That would have been a better solution than playing in TB. If Texas switched, they have a very long road trip at the end of the season, and they are playing for a WC. Houston is the team who looks bad here IMO.

[hornedfrog1985]

So they think playing in tampa is the best option? Id take my chances in arlington. Arent there massive college stadiums in texas....?

Looking at the rangers schedule i dont blame them. Why would you give up HF advantage the last few games of the year to a division rival. Think if they do that and get swept getting knocked out of the wild card spot or something. Fans would be really pissed. Not to mention they dont have a break if i saw correctly after coming home from out west... no thanks.

Playoffs = a lot of money for the owners, their city, the players, everyone.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

They offered to play this series at Arlington and give all,of the money to Houston. That would have been a better solution than playing in TB. If Texas switched, they have a very long road trip at the end of the season, and they are playing for a WC. Houston is the team who looks bad here IMO.

LMAO, no. Texas is being a bunch of babies, they look terrible.

[hornedfrog1985]

Houston taking money out of state doesnt look real good either.

[kordell1]

The Rangers offered to host the game with Houston being designated the home team, all revenue going to the Astros and additionally, to donate money to the Harvey relief. All they wanted to avoid was a long road trip near the end of the season. The Astros refused. Just a case of 2 teams not able to reach an agreement. Other than Reid Ryan's press release, I don't think either team did anything wrong.

[ensbergcollecto]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

They offered to play this series at Arlington and give all,of the money to Houston. That would have been a better solution than playing in TB. If Texas switched, they have a very long road trip at the end of the season, and they are playing for a WC. Houston is the team who looks bad here IMO.

while i understand why the rangers made the decision they did, how can anyone say houston looks bad here? so its ok for the rangers to not want to give up critical home games, but the astros should?

[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by ensbergcollecto

while i understand why the rangers made the decision they did, how can anyone say houston looks bad here? so its ok for the rangers to not want to give up critical home games, but the astros should?

Looking back at this, Houston should have asked to switch last week before the hurricane. It still puts Texas in a bad travel situation at the end of the year, but they may have been more receptive.


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[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by ensbergcollecto

while i understand why the rangers made the decision they did, how can anyone say houston looks bad here? so its ok for the rangers to not want to give up critical home games, but the astros should?

Well, it's houston's problem and not their opponents, sad to say. It's not like they need these games with their lead.

Good point the one poster made about taking the money out of state now. How does that benefit anyone?



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[mbrown2626]

Admitted Ranger Homer

So last night when this was decided twitter blew up and there were a lot of people saying “why not just flip the home and home with Houston, it’s not that hard”. Do people realize that the 30K people who have tickets to each game of the home stand that the Rangers would have to “just flip” would either have to go to the games starting today or get refunded somehow? How do you think season ticket holders would react to that? Flipping a home and home is not something that can “just be done”. The Ranger are in the WC hunt and the last thing they want to do is have a 12 game road trip to end the year while in the hunt. They offered to let Houston use the stadium and keep all revenues. Both teams were already in Dallas as Houston had to fly into Dallas the night before because of the hurricane. Houston also has to consider that they will not be playing at Minute Maid at all this week. So their homestand vs the Mets will have to be moved so it’s probably better for everyone to have Houston go to Tampa and get to play there for a week instead of traveling multiple times and then go on their west coast road trip.

[batottu]

Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

Houston taking money out of state doesnt look real good either.

Jim Crane donated $4 milion to the relief efforts already. MLB donated $1 million. Who looks bad here? Jim Crane is doing all he can. Same way Houstonians did all we could to help the people affected by Katrina.

Note: I'm not saying MLB looks bad for giving a million, I'm just putting it in perspective that $4 million is quite a bit. Anyone saying the Astros look bad here is wrong though.

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

Looking back at this, Houston should have asked to switch last week before the hurricane. It still puts Texas in a bad travel situation at the end of the year, but they may have been more receptive.


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Up until Thursday, no one thought much of this storm. The hurricane missed Houston first time through. This is all being caused by a tropical storm that got forced back on top of us and has no where to go, but it still being fueled by water from the gulf. Last Friday was when we realized we could have some problems, but we were told not to evacuate. Decision to move was finalized Monday. There really wasn't any time.

Again, I'm not blasting the Rangers as I understand the decision. They will have a bit of PR mess though. Lots of people in the state of Texas like both teams (I'm not one of them). Lots of people in the state haven been affecting by this storm and/or others before it. They will be more sensitive to this than the rest of the country. If you've never been through a hurricane, it's difficult to understand. You inconvenience yourself to help others and you don't think about not doing it. Again, that's not the Rangers problem.

[thenwhatjk]

One time I went to a Marlins/Expos game at Comiskey Park due to a hurricane, there were maybe a thousand people there, it ruled

[Orange October]

I read online yesterday that if the Rangers agreed to the swap, their final 4 series of the year would be on the road. I'm sure that was a big reason.

[kyleuk21]

It's hilarious at how many people think it's as simple as switching the venues. As someone mentioned, that affects all ticket sales for the entire weekend. It also makes for a longer road trip at the season's end. Who in their right mind would agree to that? It sucks for Houston, but their team should be the one to accommodate here. If you can't play at home then go play somewhere else. Only affect the single series instead of doubling the trouble by affecting two...

[Moyni]

Originally Posted by kordell1

The Rangers offered to host the game with Houston being designated the home team, all revenue going to the Astros and additionally, to donate money to the Harvey relief. All they wanted to avoid was a long road trip near the end of the season. The Astros refused. Just a case of 2 teams not able to reach an agreement. Other than Reid Ryan's press release, I don't think either team did anything wrong.

This is 100% correct and the proper way to view this situation. It just sucks all around.

[Morty]

So the Astros want the Rangers to take on a brutal road trip to end the season.... Specifically so they can avoid the same fate?

Both teams owe it to their players and fans to put themselves in the best position possible to make the post season. That's why the Astros don't want to end the season with 19 games on the road, and the Rangers don't want to end with 12 games on the road. Neither team is wrong for wanting to maintain home field advantage.

That being said, the Astros sit comfortably atop their division, while the Rangers are a sub .500 team struggling for the wild card. This storm has devastated tons of people, but I guarantee that is the last thing on either teams' minds. If Reid Ryan was so concerned about the welfare of the city of Houston, then why would he turn down the Rangers' reported offer of donating all the revenue from the series to relief efforts? Can anybody seriously argue that he is benefitting Houston and it's survivors by taking the game to Florida with its paltry game attendance?

Not to mention all the tickets that have already been sold and issued for the final series against the Astros in Arlington. What sense does it make to uproot the ticket sales in both cities for two separate series?

Again, I am not mad at either team for requesting or refusing to swap the series. What has irked me is the fact that Reid Ryan took the issue to the media and painted the Rangers into a bad corner. The way I see it, John Daniels offered a scenario that benefitted both teams, and offered much needed relief to Houston. Reid Ryan on the other hand tried to leverage the situation, refused a reasonable offer, and then blamed the Rangers for everything. Lance McCullers also needs to withdraw his unfair Twitter commentary and focus on playing the game.

I'm sure this post makes me come across as a huge Rangers homer, but I'm actually a Texan who roots for both teams. I just wish this could have been handled better.