Ja Morant

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I remember back in the day when Master P was trying to make it in the NBA and Allen Iverson actually made a rap album that was ultimately shelved due to its homophobic and violent content a comedian who’s name I can’t remember made a keen observation. “Why does every ballplayer want to be a rapper and every rapper wants to be a ballplayer? And both are infatuated with maintaining a super gangster image like MC Gusto”.

Before the rap Master P started as a scholarship ball player (Houston iirc) and got injured but I agree with the point.

Someone called it an identity crisis and that's about it. It affects everyone across all backgrounds/status/race. Rap, in particular, is consumed across the spectrum and the danger is in the emulation of it. Some of your brightest kids caught in bad situations. Flashing guns or wads of money to impress. Crip walking as a tik-tok challenge. If Silver wants to be honest, it's how the NBA promotes their product so the marriage isn't surprising. The league is upset because they knew they were playing with fire to attract those audiences.

[pingbling23]

Wcf opening montage had a girl flashing the west side hand sign.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by spurs50fan

Before the rap Master P started as a scholarship ball player (Houston iirc) and got injured but I agree with the point.

Someone called it an identity crisis and that's about it. It affects everyone across all backgrounds/status/race. Rap, in particular, is consumed across the spectrum and the danger is in the emulation of it. Some of your brightest kids caught in bad situations. Flashing guns or wads of money to impress. Crip walking as a tik-tok challenge. If Silver wants to be honest, it's how the NBA promotes their product so the marriage isn't surprising. The league is upset because they knew they were playing with fire to attract those audiences.

Yes he went to Houston but quit during his Freshman season. I’m not sure he even played in a game. He clearly wasn’t an NBA talent and only got an opportunity because of who he was.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

The takes from reputable folk today were cringe. "He didn't break the law." "History of going after black men with guns."

Bruh, weed is basically legal, but if you're employer says don't do it or else, don't question the "else" part when you ignore the rules.

The attempt to continue justifying behavior that is equivalent to conduct detrimental to the league where the conduct shines the league in a negative light is just crazy. I mean, did these naysayers not have parents that taught them the concept of rules? Rhetorical question. We know that's a societal problem.

Just dumb. If there is a rule that says don't wear shorts or you'll be fired, wear slacks, and you wear shorts, you're a dumbass and deserve to be fired being a non rule following idiot.

All true but is there a rule in the CBA that says don't show a gun on IG or social media? If not he really didn't break any rules other than conduct detrimental which is left very vague for these reasons. And not defending him at all either, very very very stupid of him especially after the first incident. Also I don't think it was him or his account that posted the video rather his dumb ass friend that wants to be famous off of Ja's celebrity.

From what I understand, which could be totally wrong, they were sitting in Ja's driveway when this happened not driving around which adds a little context. If Ja didn't take the video, didn't start the IG live, didn't post under his account or post it at all its a bit different than him posting it himself as well. Still not the smartest thing to be waving a gun around like a toy because you are listing to a song that glorifies it and thinking its cool. Just saying there are levels to this thing.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

All true but is there a rule in the CBA that says don't show a gun on IG or social media? If not he really didn't break any rules other than conduct detrimental which is left very vague for these reasons. And not defending him at all either, very very very stupid of him especially after the first incident. Also I don't think it was him or his account that posted the video rather his dumb ass friend that wants to be famous off of Ja's celebrity.

From what I understand, which could be totally wrong, they were sitting in Ja's driveway when this happened not driving around which adds a little context. If Ja didn't take the video, didn't start the IG live, didn't post under his account or post it at all its a bit different than him posting it himself as well. Still not the smartest thing to be waving a gun around like a toy because you are listing to a song that glorifies it and thinking its cool. Just saying there are levels to this thing.

I’m not understanding how it’s different. A live stream is a live stream. Don’t do stupid things when you’re being watched by the public. Ja’s friend had more situational awareness than Ja.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I’m not understanding how it’s different. A live stream is a live stream. Don’t do stupid things when you’re being watched by the public. Ja’s friend had more situational awareness than Ja.

Delete IG

[ninjacookies]

Nixon rolling in his sarcophagus.

Mournful Eloquence in a can - the last bastion of humanity.



https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status...07490321408003



Commish Gollum scrambling for Openai detection scripts like an English professor at Cambridge. Wild times.

[duron]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Nixon rolling in his sarcophagus.

Mournful Eloquence in a can - the last bastion of humanity.



https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status...07490321408003



Commish Gollum scrambling for Openai detection scripts like an English professor at Cambridge. Wild times.

So, so incredible.

I actually just caught the clip of Gollum and Maqueefa Andrews, which is also incredible. Decrepit creature’s exact words were, “we’ll figure out exactly what happened to the best we can, again the video’s a bit grainy and all that but I’m assuming the worst, we’ll figure out exactly what happened there.”

The craziest part here is that in the not so distant future, the deepfake vids will be so good that what he said can actually have credence as opposed to just being a stock pr response.

Wild times forrrrrr sureeeee

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by duron

the deepfake vids will be so good that what he said can actually have credence as opposed to just being a stock pr response.

[duron]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

lol'ed

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I’m not understanding how it’s different. A live stream is a live stream. Don’t do stupid things when you’re being watched by the public. Ja’s friend had more situational awareness than Ja.

Not saying it wasn't stupid at all, definitely very dumb. But would be even worse in my book if he himself intentionally took the video and posted it himself. At that time he may or may not have known he was live and although extremely dumb to be waving a gun around he is perfectly within his rights to do so. I think JJ Redick made some good points yesterday as well, how is showing a gun on IG any worse that our US Senator sending out and posting Christmas Cards with their entire family holding ARs? Its ok for the people in charge of our country but not a basketball player? And I understand that its looked at negatively on by his employers and because of his stature and thats something that he has to grasp at some point or be out of the league.

To me its the friend that is becoming the downfall of Ja. That dude is bad news, he is in it only to ride the coat tails of Ja's celebrity. Every one of these issues with Ja always come back to the friend. Every one of them and will eventually be his ultimate downfall if he doesn't get rid of him.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Not saying it wasn't stupid at all, definitely very dumb. But would be even worse in my book if he himself intentionally took the video and posted it himself. At that time he may or may not have known he was live and although extremely dumb to be waving a gun around he is perfectly within his rights to do so. I think JJ Redick made some good points yesterday as well, how is showing a gun on IG any worse that our US Senator sending out and posting Christmas Cards with their entire family holding ARs? Its ok for the people in charge of our country but not a basketball player? And I understand that its looked at negatively on by his employers and because of his stature and thats something that he has to grasp at some point or be out of the league.

To me its the friend that is becoming the downfall of Ja. That dude is bad news, he is in it only to ride the coat tails of Ja's celebrity. Every one of these issues with Ja always come back to the friend. Every one of them and will eventually be his ultimate downfall if he doesn't get rid of him.

I would argue it’s absolutely different for one reason. The respective ways they’re holding the guns. Waving it around freely including by your own head like Morant was doing is incredibly stupid and dangerous. If Morant wants to continue to be a gun owner he needs to take some sort of responsible gun ownership class so he doesn’t hurt himself or someone else because he’s clearly clueless about firearms. Coupled with his alleged alcoholism he’s going to end up accidentally blowing his own head off.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Not saying it wasn't stupid at all, definitely very dumb. But would be even worse in my book if he himself intentionally took the video and posted it himself. At that time he may or may not have known he was live and although extremely dumb to be waving a gun around he is perfectly within his rights to do so. I think JJ Redick made some good points yesterday as well, how is showing a gun on IG any worse that our US Senator sending out and posting Christmas Cards with their entire family holding ARs? Its ok for the people in charge of our country but not a basketball player? And I understand that its looked at negatively on by his employers and because of his stature and thats something that he has to grasp at some point or be out of the league.

To me it’s the friend that is becoming the downfall of Ja. That dude is bad news, he is in it only to ride the coat tails of Ja's celebrity. Every one of these issues with Ja always come back to the friend. Every one of them and will eventually be his ultimate downfall if he doesn't get rid of him.

Wantonly waving a handgun around is different than posing with a rifle. You’re not going to find any NRA members who defend people who aren’t practicing proper gun safety. What Ja has done multiple times now is how people get accidentally shot.

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Not saying it wasn't stupid at all, definitely very dumb. But would be even worse in my book if he himself intentionally took the video and posted it himself. At that time he may or may not have known he was live and although extremely dumb to be waving a gun around he is perfectly within his rights to do so. I think JJ Redick made some good points yesterday as well, how is showing a gun on IG any worse that our US Senator sending out and posting Christmas Cards with their entire family holding ARs? Its ok for the people in charge of our country but not a basketball player? And I understand that its looked at negatively on by his employers and because of his stature and thats something that he has to grasp at some point or be out of the league.

To me its the friend that is becoming the downfall of Ja. That dude is bad news, he is in it only to ride the coat tails of Ja's celebrity. Every one of these issues with Ja always come back to the friend. Every one of them and will eventually be his ultimate downfall if he doesn't get rid of him.

The sad part is Ja was warned about this since he hit the league. Through the camps, agent, teammates, good friends and hopefully family. Most recently the commissioner and everyone with an opinion. It's always been up to Ja because the consequences will be his alone. His friend is dumb but Ja's decision making isn't showing any separation.

Redick's argument can be ignored because no one is asking to lock Ja up. JJ knows the code of conduct policy for a league that is extremely image conscious. The money literally hinges on how the public views it's players. What JJ is attempting to tap into doesn't actually help Ja...just JJ. To your point though, what is setting off the alarms is that the behavior didn't change. The behavior was the issue, not how it got out.

[TimBuckTwo]

Do your dance Ja

[MTBRM]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Wantonly waving a handgun around is different than posing with a rifle. You’re not going to find any NRA members who defend people who aren’t practicing proper gun safety. What Ja has done multiple times now is how people get accidentally shot.

Ja had good trigger discipline in that video though, to be fair

[daeve]

pissing away so many millions

Nike App no longer listing Ja Morant's Hunger sneakers ahead of expected release. Nike did the same thing with Kyrie Irving before terminating his contract.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I would argue it’s absolutely different for one reason. The respective ways they’re holding the guns. Waving it around freely including by your own head like Morant was doing is incredibly stupid and dangerous. If Morant wants to continue to be a gun owner he needs to take some sort of responsible gun ownership class so he doesn’t hurt himself or someone else because he’s clearly clueless about firearms. Coupled with his alleged alcoholism he’s going to end up accidentally blowing his own head off.

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Wantonly waving a handgun around is different than posing with a rifle. You’re not going to find any NRA members who defend people who aren’t practicing proper gun safety. What Ja has done multiple times now is how people get accidentally shot.

Originally Posted by spurs50fan

The sad part is Ja was warned about this since he hit the league. Through the camps, agent, teammates, good friends and hopefully family. Most recently the commissioner and everyone with an opinion. It's always been up to Ja because the consequences will be his alone. His friend is dumb but Ja's decision making isn't showing any separation.

Redick's argument can be ignored because no one is asking to lock Ja up. JJ knows the code of conduct policy for a league that is extremely image conscious. The money literally hinges on how the public views it's players. What JJ is attempting to tap into doesn't actually help Ja...just JJ. To your point though, what is setting off the alarms is that the behavior didn't change. The behavior was the issue, not how it got out.

All true, no arguments at all.

[JustinVerlander07]

I like JJ Reddick a lot. He's a really good media member for Basketball, but his statement on Ja is just off base. It's a problem. While he is right on the lack of anything happening with gun safety and mass shootings, as we all know pro sports is not real life and athletes don't get treated like normal people, good or bad. It's an awful look, between Ja trying to be a fake gangster and his latest statement coming from a website that did it for him, he's either stupid or dumb and anything and everything happening to him is very well deserved, because as I just said, he's either dumb or stupid.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I like JJ Reddick a lot. He's a really good media member for Basketball, but his statement on Ja is just off base. It's a problem. While he is right on the lack of anything happening with gun safety and mass shootings, as we all know pro sports is not real life and athletes don't get treated like normal people, good or bad. It's an awful look, between Ja trying to be a fake gangster and his latest statement coming from a website that did it for him, he's either stupid or dumb and anything and everything happening to him is very well deserved, because as I just said, he's either dumb or stupid.

JJ is a guy that screams free speech without realizing that isn’t freedom from consequences

I’d absolutely get fired from my job if I waved a gun on social media twice… maybe not once… but after a talking to?

Canned

And I would absolutely fire my staff for the same

[imbluestreak23]

Yup, big JJ fan, he brings plenty of good analysis but man is he way off base here.

Comparing TN politician Christmas cards to hood like gun behavior often seen in hip hop videos the past four decades that have glorified inner city thug lifestyle. Yeah, one and the same brochacho, one and the same. Seems JJ omitted the fact that Draymond has posted photos at shooting ranges with no backlash or criticism. Just a clown take

[Onepocketj]

Agree with everything above. Although I do also think that politicians posing with their families with everyone holding assault rifles is moronic as well.

[imbluestreak23]

I agree there completely too. Just cringy. Screams "I have a low IQ, vote for me"

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Agree with everything above. Although I do also think that politicians posing with their families with everyone holding assault rifles is moronic as well.

Agree 100%. You preach responsible gun ownership and then turn around and treat it like a prop or a toy. So frustrating.


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[hauntedcomputer]

Moronic political pandering is an entirely different business model from corporate sports entertainment.