**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 954

Some Guy · 06-23-2022, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

This thread is sad now everyone hanging onto the past to explain away the struggles of today. Seems like the Bellinger thread circa 2020

Then hoopla off to another thread

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towerymt · 06-23-2022, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

Don't worry, I'll save you, how does $14ea sound and I'll cover shipping? That's 100% profit, baby!

I would. But I'm not allowed.

zworykin · 06-23-2022, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

I would. But I'm not allowed.

Rats.

pewe · 06-23-2022, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

I am surprised no one read this, so I will re-post. Fun analysis of what ails Soto (bad luck + pitchers exploiting weakness)

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pewe · 06-23-2022, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atk825

He has a .207 BABIP. He also has a 125 wRC+ and is hitting for a lot of power. With an historically low BABIP, his floor is Adam Dunn...he's also still 3 weeks younger than Oneil Cruz. You're right. He obviously has no future.

I believe Soto’s 1/2 half ended at almost the same 125 wRC+ last year, before his 199 wRC+ 2nd half.

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Redbandit · 06-23-2022, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

I am surprised no one read this, so I will re-post. Fun analysis of what ails Soto (bad luck + pitchers exploiting weakness)

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Good article - he'll make the proper adjustments. Im guessing he'll start to crowd the plate more when pitchers are expected to throw outside junk

BAHoopla · 06-23-2022, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

I believe Soto’s 1/2 half ended at almost the same 125 wRC+ last year, before his 199 wRC+ 2nd half.

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Let’s hope for a repeat

StateEx · 06-23-2022, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

I am surprised no one read this, so I will re-post. Fun analysis of what ails Soto (bad luck + pitchers exploiting weakness)

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Interesting read, thanks for flagging!

rainmaker · 06-23-2022, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

I am surprised no one read this, so I will re-post. Fun analysis of what ails Soto (bad luck + pitchers exploiting weakness)

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Good article for sure. And not from a hobby point of view but rather simple analytics. Just an odd lick stretch for a great player combined with the pointed need for a few adjustments. I believe he will be fine. On the hobby side there have been some interesting high end (4 figure sales) over the past week. These are smart buyers if you ask me. I’d probably stay away from the update paper and chrome. But whoever bought the Gatorade bath us300 variation made a wise purchase.

pete2345 · 06-23-2022, 10:00 PM

Just think about the money you bagholders would have made by selling during preseason hype.

Bambino22 · 06-23-2022, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/juan-sot...y-adjustments/

I am surprised no one read this, so I will re-post. Fun analysis of what ails Soto (bad luck + pitchers exploiting weakness)

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Worse drag coefficient hurting opposite field hits. I like that! That's what I'm going to blame.

SupermanBrandon · 06-23-2022, 10:21 PM

Im not nervous

BAHoopla · 06-23-2022, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Im not nervous

Cause you wisely sold your rainbow PSA 10 a few weeks back

ThoseBackPages · 06-23-2022, 10:27 PM

im not nervous

BAHoopla · 06-23-2022, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

im not nervous

You shouldn’t be as you are a wise collector

pete2345 · 06-23-2022, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Cause you wisely sold your rainbow PSA 10 a few weeks back

How great is that.

SupermanBrandon · 06-23-2022, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Cause you wisely sold one of your rainbow PSA 10s a few weeks back

fixed it for you!

LVDan · 06-23-2022, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

imagine having to sell cards to pay for your kids childcare

Real life is a thing for some adults too E
Just a gentle reminder

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hammertime · 06-24-2022, 03:40 AM

I know his start to this season may be worse than last, but in 2021 he didn't really catch fire until after the All Star break. Hopefully he takes part in the HRD again this year (and hopefully Ohtani DOESN'T).

pewe · 06-24-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I know his start to this season may be worse than last, but in 2021 he didn't really catch fire until after the All Star break. Hopefully he takes part in the HRD again this year (and hopefully Ohtani DOESN'T).

His wRC+ in 1st half of 2021 was almost identical to this year, so far… so this start isn’t really any worse.

And then he was on fire in the 2nd half.

He can do it again!

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tconte · 06-24-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

LOL... "bagholders"

You do realize that the majority of people here bought back in 2018/2019, right? We're not the collecting majority.

How will I ever recover the cost of my PSA 10 HMT55's that I'm fully into for like $20/each with grading fees? Oh no!

If I'm a betting man, and I am. I would bet this is not true. There is some
big dollars tied up here with Soto.

BAHoopla · 06-24-2022, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

LOL... "bagholders"

You do realize that the majority of people here bought back in 2018/2019, right? We're not the collecting majority.

How will I ever recover the cost of my PSA 10 HMT55's that I'm fully into for like $20/each with grading fees? Oh no!

Why you keep posting about buying early? Like who cares. It’s just as important when you sell

BAHoopla · 06-24-2022, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal

Not PC
Just saying. Carry on

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Agree with Neal here

rngrdanny22 · 06-24-2022, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Why you keep posting about buying early? Like who cares. It’s just as important when you sell

Because it matters and doesn't make everyone here a "bagholder". Just clarifying that not selling in the last offseason doesn't mean everyone here is underwater.

ThoseBackPages · 06-24-2022, 01:31 PM

not sure why so many are worried about "when you sell"

you sell when you need the funds for real life bills

06-23-2022, 10:27 PM	#23839
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 91,387 ThoseBackPages	im not nervous __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 91,387 ThoseBackPages	not sure why so many are worried about "when you sell" you sell when you need the funds for real life bills __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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pete2345 Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Birthplace of Michael Jordan home of biggie smalls! Posts: 4,125	Just think about the money you bagholders would have made by selling during preseason hype.

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,842	Im not nervous

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hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 7,290	I know his start to this season may be worse than last, but in 2021 he didn't really catch fire until after the All Star break. Hopefully he takes part in the HRD again this year (and hopefully Ohtani DOESN'T).