The burlap is back! First Buzz: 2017 Topps Heritage baseball cards (will update)

[beauspencer]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

What is the oldest "Rediscover Topps" card that people have found in Heritage ?

Oldest I have pulled is a 1974.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

That sounds like a kick in the balls. This is why I don't like Heritage, too much work. I want looking at cards to be fun, not a chore.

Heritage is awesome.... and this coming from the Bowman guy.

It also isn't as bad as it sounds. You only have to check the 5th card and usually they are obvious. Hits, blues, chromes, inserts are all obvious.

I checked all the SP just to be safe, but you generally know what you have. Actions and color swaps are pretty easy.

However, every once is awhile you get a pack and you can't find the "hit." The 5th card looks like nothing... those are the packs that generally have something awesome in them, but you gotta figure out what it is. Is it a yellow? Is it an error?

Most breakers are looking for the hits - the autos and the relics - the chrome and the ref... they never know the true pleasure of a heritage break.

I hit a $1k+ card in case 1 for a new participant in my breaks and I was as happy as he was.

Other guys in the breaks think they did bad with their team because they didn't get a "hit" not knowing that they had $100+ in SP and variations.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

What is the oldest "Rediscover Topps" card that people have found in Heritage ?

1970, 1971, 1974

[MotorboatJones]

Nice...early 70's are good ! Are the box topper Topps Originals all from 1968 ? How often do those fall per case ? Is it usually 1 poster, 1 3D, 1 Topps Original and 9 Panels ?

[MotorboatJones]

When they do the 1975 Heritage they should do a full mini parallel set in honor of the 1975 topps mini release. That year and 1972 are going to kick butt !

[houdini]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Nice...early 70's are good ! Are the box topper Topps Originals all from 1968 ? How often do those fall per case ? Is it usually 1 poster, 1 3D, 1 Topps Original and 9 Panels ?

1 3d, 5 1968, 6 panels

I hit 1 poster in 4 cases

[chezball]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Nice...early 70's are good ! Are the box topper Topps Originals all from 1968 ? How often do those fall per case ? Is it usually 1 poster, 1 3D, 1 Topps Original and 9 Panels ?

I got 6 panels, one 3D and 5 50th anniversary,

[coltsnsox07]

Looking at the tiny code numbers on the bottom of the backs make opening a box of cards as much fun as doing my taxes..

[MotorboatJones]

Thanks, guys ! Posters are tough...

[pnft17]

Originally Posted by houdini

Not all breakers - I checked the code in every pack for 4 cases. Each case took 2hrs though and I did get complaints - but I missed nothing.

Nice job Houdini...!!! These breakers that shuffle through cards and have zero clue what they are breaking make watching the breaks awful!!! And my god with them always saying every card ships. But don't bother showing them. Also shipping all cards people bought teams for shouldn't be something you brag about doing. They bought the teams shouldn't they get the cards ugh!

[pnft17]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Looking at the tiny code numbers on the bottom of the backs make opening a box of cards as much fun as doing my taxes..

It's the beauty of heritage. If you don't like it stick to one card dynasty breaks!!!

[pnft17]

Breakers just hate heritage because they actually have to do a little research and not every card is serial numbered.

[bwalter1]

Each column in the box has a "hit". it is the 5th card in pack (very often). Just break by each column in the box. If you do not notice a "hit" then go through and check the codes. Saves alot of time and helps being organized.

[Centauri3]

I got a 68 box topper and a 1971&1974 rediscover among others - in 2 hobby boxes.

[hairysasquatch]

I hit a Correa autographed box topper poster /5 in an insane case that also had a Trea Turner Gold /5 and a redemption for a Hank Aaron Flashback Auto Relic. Any idea on a value for the poster??

[ThoseBackPages]

im just realizing that Bregman's Auto lacks the Rookie Cup and the burlap is different then his Action

[Turnitin2004]

I know this is going to come off sounding like a total noob anti heritage thing (and to an extent I'm a noob, never buy heritage but always look at it intrigued from afar). But it seems like this year there are a lot more noobs than normal getting into it so maybe me asking this questions will give you a look into it from different view point.

I'm seeing 80-90$ a box. Why? What am I paying 90$ for? For a (most likely) 7$ jersey card and a couple of refractors to 999? A couple short prints and if I'm lucky a color swap?How are people making 50-60% ROI on these boxes? I've watched a bunch of breaks and to me it's like a car(d) accident. I can't look away. Oh wow a buy back of a guy I never heard of from 1990 topps. Don't we hate 1990 topps? Why do I have to look at it again?

[srcards]

Hey turn, I noticed the same thing. I have been in a couple of breaks, and maybe 3 boxes came close to bringing value. Maybe 1 was worth more than 90.

Edit: I still think it is a fun rip

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

I know this is going to come off sounding like a total noob anti heritage thing (and to an extent I'm a noob, never buy heritage but always look at it intrigued from afar). But it seems like this year there are a lot more noobs than normal getting into it so maybe me asking this questions will give you a look into it from different view point.

I'm seeing 80-90$ a box. Why? What am I paying 90$ for? For a (most likely) 7$ jersey card and a couple of refractors to 999? A couple short prints and if I'm lucky a color swap?How are people making 50-60% ROI on these boxes? I've watched a bunch of breaks and to me it's like a car(d) accident. I can't look away. Oh wow a buy back of a guy I never heard of from 1990 topps. Don't we hate 1990 topps? Why do I have to look at it again?

It's because the base, SP, inserts, and action SPs should get you close to $650, and most breakers were locked in at $650-$700 per case. So your profit is autos, relics, color swap, yellow back, gray back, buybacks, purple ref, boxtoppers, chrome, chrome ref, mini, and any SSP that might be hit. That stuff adds up pretty quick.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

I know this is going to come off sounding like a total noob anti heritage thing (and to an extent I'm a noob, never buy heritage but always look at it intrigued from afar). But it seems like this year there are a lot more noobs than normal getting into it so maybe me asking this questions will give you a look into it from different view point.

I'm seeing 80-90$ a box. Why? What am I paying 90$ for? For a (most likely) 7$ jersey card and a couple of refractors to 999? A couple short prints and if I'm lucky a color swap?How are people making 50-60% ROI on these boxes? I've watched a bunch of breaks and to me it's like a car(d) accident. I can't look away. Oh wow a buy back of a guy I never heard of from 1990 topps. Don't we hate 1990 topps? Why do I have to look at it again?

Originally Posted by srcards

Hey turn, I noticed the same thing. I have been in a couple of breaks, and maybe 3 boxes came close to bringing value. Maybe 1 was worth more than 90.

Edit: I still think it is a fun rip

It is a set collectors product - NOT a hit product.

That means that everything has value - even (especially) the base.

If I open a case of Bowman, I can probably sell the paper base for $35 and the chrome base for $50-$70. The autos and "case" hits are where my value lies.

In a case of Heritage, the base will often sell for more than all the hits combined (excluding the obvious lucky big hits). The sp alone will bring you hundreds of dollars.

It is the antithesis of your typical break and therefore completely alien to most group break hosts.

Most hosts want to open stuff like Immaculate, Flawless and NT - the greatest return for the least amount of work. (This is not a knock on those breakers either - it is a no-brainer.) Many avoid sets like prizm, bowman, elite, etc because it is extra work for less return. Heritage takes 2x-3x the effort of Bowman.

If you open Heritage with a mindset of Bowman, you will be very disappointed.

[pnft17]

Yes heritage is actually about the cards!!! Not the just serial numbers. Many are gravitating to heritage because the 5 cards for $500 a box is sucking. To me no fun in that product. I'll take a $70 box that might have hidden gems in it and fun to put a set together!!! Over a shinny $100 a hit pack. That averages $20 return tops on most hits. Don't get me wrong I love watching high dollar breaks but no one puts any of those sets together. Heritage to Me is so much better. The rare cards in it blow away the shiny crap! Don't let the clueless breakers who have no idea what they are breaking influence you. I'm so disappointed in watching some of these guys go right past cool cards and not show them... it's way too much trouble for them to actually know what to look for or show the base cards. Just look for those relic cards. It's beauty of heritage I guess. Just too complicated for joe breaker!!!

[Carrbeaz]

If you are fascinated by shiny objects and have a short attention span, heritage is not the product for you.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Turnitin2004

I know this is going to come off sounding like a total noob anti heritage thing (and to an extent I'm a noob, never buy heritage but always look at it intrigued from afar). But it seems like this year there are a lot more noobs than normal getting into it so maybe me asking this questions will give you a look into it from different view point.

I'm seeing 80-90$ a box. Why? What am I paying 90$ for? For a (most likely) 7$ jersey card and a couple of refractors to 999? A couple short prints and if I'm lucky a color swap?How are people making 50-60% ROI on these boxes? I've watched a bunch of breaks and to me it's like a car(d) accident. I can't look away. Oh wow a buy back of a guy I never heard of from 1990 topps. Don't we hate 1990 topps? Why do I have to look at it again?

Stick to Bowman where you typically get a $7 auto and maybe one color to sell and a stack of base cards that nobody wants.


People should read the user reviews for Heritage on Cardboard Connection. Hilarious.

[broadway6]

I'm just angry that there are no benny chrome and parallels (like gold).

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

Isn't that the truth! Sell me your SPs, Action and color swaps if you don't want to pay those eBay fees! Shoot me a PM and let me know what you have!

will do! I'm keeping anything by Bryant, Trout and a few rookies, but anything else is up for grabs.