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[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by pgisback

"We did not find evidence sufficient to establish that she knew she was sending classified information beyond a reasonable doubt to meet the intent standard,"

I mean if you have the evidence the FBI doesn't have, please let me have it. Then I might change my mind.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Uhh yea, you did here's the quote.
You said that your personal experience was more valuable than a study. If you truly believe that you're pretty naive.

No......I said I do not need a study to tell me the pitfalls of the system. Completely different things.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Michael Moore says Trump is going to win

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win | MICHAEL MOORE

He talks about state of mind,what's his "state of mind" when he reaches for that cheeseburger.

[pgisback]

You always know when you win a debate against a conservative once they start posting memes or attacking you personally.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by pgisback

You always know when you win a debate against a conservative once they start posting memes or attacking you personally.

People win debates?

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Just in case you decide not to click the link...

Uranium investors’ efforts to buy mining assets in Kazakhstan and the United States led to a takeover bid by a Russian state-owned energy company. The investors gave millions to the Clinton Foundation over the same period, while Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s office was involved with approving the Russian bid.


What was pgisback saying about Reagan again?

I guess nobody wanted to play.

[jarrodsalas]

I think the FBI verdict on the email scandal basically meant she was too dumb to realize what she was doing wrong. "There was no ill intent" or something along those lines.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by pgisback

You always know when you win a debate against a conservative once they start posting memes or attacking you personally.

some sheeple will never wake up, unfortuantely

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

some sheeple will never wake up, unfortuantely

Agreed. Let me know what Breitbart tells you to care about tomorrow, lol.

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

There is no point in you and I going back and forth. I am hardcover right, and you are hard core left.

Your employment is dependant upon liberal policies and ideals. The teachers union is in the pocket of all liberal politicians. They feed one another while all the time the last thing on their mind...the children. It's quite sad.

He has a very valid point though. The system that many are complaining about is set up to keep people dependent on it yet you are blaming the people who receive it. They get punished for saving money, too. And, it is such a small amount that makes them lose their benefits. They can't even have more than 2,000 in the bank in some cases. That isn't enough to move out of section 8 housing and into an adequate living situation.

Rent: $900
Security Deposit: $900

You only have $200 left to get food, necessities, etc. You could easily burn through that in no time. How are they supposed to move out with that? The system needs a complete overhaul. That is why poverty is my #1 issue we face as a nation. Big companies, like Walmart, love poverty. People are forced to shop and work there all while they reap the real benefits.

[TOMBB25]

Originally Posted by chezball

It was a response to your post, meaning whatever facts or proof is in there it wouldn't matter to the people voting for clinton. Guess you haven't read any of my posts in this thread.

Sorry Chez

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Agreed. Let me know what Breitbart tells you to care about tomorrow, lol.

The funniest part is that, unlike you, I don't box myself in to any political party or their ideals. I can see the corruption in the government for what it is and I don't rely on the mass media to tell me how to feel.

Like I said, I truly feel bad for you because you cannot see past your political party which is kind of sad. The wool is all the way over your head, you still have time to turn it around though

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

The funniest part is that, unlike you, I don't box myself in to any political party or their ideals. I can see the corruption in the government for what it is and I don't rely on the mass media to tell me how to feel.

Like I said, I truly feel bad for you because you cannot see past your political party which is kind of sad.

All I did was quote the Director of the FBI. Not sure what else you're babbling about.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

What are the other steps? Rehab? If we're not taking away their benefits they're not going to change.

If you want me to pay for your housing and food you better not be wasting my money on drugs, what's so hard for you to understand about that?

Investing in quality drug addiction treatment is a good first step for the tiny percentage of recipients that actually abuse drugs.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by pgisback

All I did was quote the Director of the FBI. Not sure what else you're babbling about.

You don't believe that she did anything illegal is the point. You can't see past the facade like I said before.

You take exactly what you read at face value because she's your candidate of choice and that's the sad part.

Let me break this down for you:

She insisted, multiple times, that no classified information was ever transmitted. That was proven false, as classified information was transmitted.

Again, I will repeat myself. If you truly believe that she had no idea, or intent in regards to whether the information was classified you are naive. If the SOS doesn't know whether something is classified or not she's not fit to be SOS let alone president.

Oh yea, and ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you're a government crony

[chezball]

Originally Posted by TOMBB25

Sorry Chez

accepted

[greentown]

Originally Posted by JosieD

He has a very valid point though. The system that many are complaining about is set up to keep people dependent on it yet you are blaming the people who receive it. They get punished for saving money, too. And, it is such a small amount that makes them lose their benefits. They can't even have more than 2,000 in the bank in some cases. That isn't enough to move out of section 8 housing and into an adequate living situation.

Rent: $900
Security Deposit: $900

You only have $200 left to get food, necessities, etc. You could easily burn through that in no time. How are they supposed to move out with that? The system needs a complete overhaul. That is why poverty is my #1 issue we face as a nation. Big companies, like Walmart, love poverty. People are forced to shop and work there all while they reap the real benefits.

For starters, not moving into a place that costs $900!

Look up broad- based categorical eligibility

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

You don't believe that she did anything illegal is the point. You can't see past the facade like I said before.

If you think you understand the law more than the FBI, more power to you.

You take exactly what you read at face value because she's your candidate of choice and that's the sad part.

Let me break this down for you:

She insisted, multiple times, that no classified information was ever transmitted. That was proven false, as classified information was transmitted.

Again, I will repeat myself. If you truly believe that she had no idea, or intent in regards to whether the information was classified you are naive. If the SOS doesn't know whether something is classified or not she's not fit to be SOS let alone president.

Oh yea, and ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you're a government crony

I listen to our law enforcement. I do not make up my own definitions of the law. The FBI spent over a year investigating this and they didn't even find enough evidence to recommend a misdemeanor charge. And yes, with the bureaucracy that goes on in how different agencies determine what is classified or not, I do not find it hard to believe that her opinion of what should be classified was not consistent with other agencies. The case is over. Time to move on.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by pgisback

"We did not find evidence sufficient to establish that she knew she was sending classified information beyond a reasonable doubt to meet the intent standard,"

I mean if you have the evidence the FBI doesn't have, please let me have it. Then I might change my mind.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by JosieD

He has a very valid point though. The system that many are complaining about is set up to keep people dependent on it yet you are blaming the people who receive it. They get punished for saving money, too. And, it is such a small amount that makes them lose their benefits. They can't even have more than 2,000 in the bank in some cases. That isn't enough to move out of section 8 housing and into an adequate living situation.

Rent: $900
Security Deposit: $900

You only have $200 left to get food, necessities, etc. You could easily burn through that in no time. How are they supposed to move out with that? The system needs a complete overhaul. That is why poverty is my #1 issue we face as a nation. Big companies, like Walmart, love poverty. People are forced to shop and work there all while they reap the real benefits.

My apartment is 1,200 a month. I know people that pay 300 a month for the same size apartment because it is based on their income. That is here in Texas. Can't speak for other locations.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by pgisback

If you think you understand the law more than the FBI, more power to you.



I listen to our law enforcement. I do not make up my own definitions of the law. The FBI spent over a year investigating this and they didn't even find enough evidence to pursue a misdemeanor charge. And yes, with the bureaucracy that goes on in how different agencies determine what is classified or not, I do not find it hard to believe that her opinion of what should be classified was not consistent with other agencies. The case is over. Time to move on.

Ask anybody with a security clearance. If they did exactly what she did they would be in prison. The FBI would spend 2 days, find them guilty and throw them in prison.

This just illustrates that government officials aren't subject to the same "laws" as we are. Plain and simple.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Ask anybody with a security clearance. If they did exactly what she did they would be in prison. The FBI would spend 2 days, find them guilty and throw them in prison.

This just illustrates that government officials aren't subject to the same "laws" as we are. Plain and simple.

The FBI disagrees with you again. They in fact said that no one has gone to jail for what Hillary did and no one would go to jail for what Hillary did. Once again, I'm not sure who to believe. Random people on the internet with a political motive or the FBI. As of right now, I'm going to listen to the FBI.

[NeedChapmans]

Anybody in the Philly area wanna make $50 a night?

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[RossOK]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Just in case you decide not to click the link...

Uranium investors’ efforts to buy mining assets in Kazakhstan and the United States led to a takeover bid by a Russian state-owned energy company. The investors gave millions to the Clinton Foundation over the same period, while Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s office was involved with approving the Russian bid.


What was pgisback saying about Reagan again?

While the article is a lot more complicated than your synopsis, it is disconcerting. In hindsight, some bad decisions were probably made but the circumstances at the time of said decisions mean they were feasibly made in good faith. Per the article's timeline, it sounds like the decision-making climate was more open to the possibility of Russia becoming a better actor at the time. Unfortunately, events didn't quite pan out that way with Putin seizing control again.

[JosieD]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Anybody in the Philly area wanna make $50 a night?

Actors Needed For National Convention

I wish I could go! I am not an actor though.