**Official Luka Doncic Thread**

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You clearly have not watched the Mavs play this year.

No, I haven't.

But if Luka isn't draining 3's this half then the Cavs are up 20 at this point. Mavs having a lot of trouble with the size.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by tjforce

No, I haven't.

But if Luka isn't draining 3's this half then the Cavs are up 20 at this point. Mavs having a lot of trouble with the size.

Doesn’t matter what he does if they continue this shooting trend. You ever seen a team miss this many wide open threes in an NBA game? This looks like college basketball. And the Mavs are having too many of these nights. Makes it really, really hard to win games when teams can cheat to the paint because you can’t make an open shot.

[KhalDrogo]

Embarrassing. Below average team with a God awful collection of talent after Luka and KP. Hope none of you were fooled by their little run earlier this season against a weak bunch of teams.

[Onepocketj]

Waste of a triple double

[jbmm161]

Originally Posted by Sirwin30

Wanted to get some opinions, would you prefer a encased card or a psa 9 grade of the same one?

Wanted to make some pickups, personally the graded feels/looks better, but wanted to see what others thought.


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Are you talking about Panini CS stickers on redemptions? I personally like them versus
a grade other than 9/10. I collect PSA 9/10.
Looking at picking more up as well.
Or just the newer unredeemed redemptions thinking
they would be less expensive.

I would definitely pick up one over a raw card that was taken out. I have probably paid a premium for the Dak rookies I have.

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[sportsfanatic]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Embarrassing. Below average team with a God awful collection of talent after Luka and KP. Hope none of you were fooled by their little run earlier this season against a weak bunch of teams.

Yeah, Harrison and Cuban need to seriously get Luka some help. It's embarrassing the mediocre talent they've surrounded him with. They're wasting this kid's talent. A better coach would help too

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Embarrassing. Below average team with a God awful collection of talent after Luka and KP. Hope none of you were fooled by their little run earlier this season against a weak bunch of teams.

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Waste of a triple double

Was excited to watch what I thought was going to be a competitive game. Thought maybe the youngest starting lineup in the NBA might be outmatched by the Mavs..

Turned out to be the opposite. Mavs looked bad. Luka just had his best 3 pt shooting night of the season (7-9) and the team still couldn't crack 100. They had no answer for Cleveland's size. It was like Luka was making 3s but the rest of the team just standing around watching him play. There was one play where Kelber was at the 3 point line open and looked caught off guard that he got the ball.

[KhalDrogo]

It’s amazing how the Cavs have rebuilt from the worst team in the league through the draft, trades, and free agency. And here are the Mavs who haven’t drafted, traded for, or signed a single impact player since Luka arrived. KP is the closest thing they’ve got, but he can’t stay healthy enough to make an impact. Look at these disaster adds.

Josh Green
WCS
Redick
Bullock
Sterling Brown
Tyler Bey
Tyrell Terry
Richardson
James Johnson

Just an absolute abomination of roster moves. And to make it all worse, they got rid of Curry, who you could easily argue would be the second best player on the team right now.

[Donkaylove]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It’s amazing how the Cavs have rebuilt from the worst team in the league through the draft, trades, and free agency. And here are the Mavs who haven’t drafted, traded for, or signed a single impact player since Luka arrived. KP is the closest thing they’ve got, but he can’t stay healthy enough to make an impact. Look at these disaster adds.

Josh Green
WCS
Redick
Bullock
Sterling Brown
Tyler Bey
Tyrell Terry
Richardson
James Johnson

Just an absolute abomination of roster moves. And to make it all worse, they got rid of Curry, who you could easily argue would be the second best player on the team right now.

blazers got rid of curry for covington. either we go small ball five with nance/cov. , or hopefully trade nurk and decide quickly.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It’s amazing how the Cavs have rebuilt from the worst team in the league through the draft, trades, and free agency. And here are the Mavs who haven’t drafted, traded for, or signed a single impact player since Luka arrived. KP is the closest thing they’ve got, but he can’t stay healthy enough to make an impact. Look at these disaster adds.

Josh Green
WCS
Redick
Bullock
Sterling Brown
Tyler Bey
Tyrell Terry
Richardson
James Johnson

Just an absolute abomination of roster moves. And to make it all worse, they got rid of Curry, who you could easily argue would be the second best player on the team right now.

The Cavs
-got Jarrett Allen for the Milwaukee Bucks' 1st round pick and Dante Exum.

-got Lauri Markkannen for Larry Nance and protected 2nd round pick from Denver

-got Ricky Rubio, a 2nd round pick, AND cash for Tauren Prince

All to build around it's two drafted stars, Darius Garland and Evan Mobley.

That's how you build a team with limited resources and whoever the hell is running the show in Dallas needs to figure that out. (the Curry trade was atrocious).

[bloodwings19]

Rebound is key to winning. Cavs have trees that can rebound, Mavs don't have consistent rebounding. They had 33 rebounds against the Cavs, many teams aren't winning with that stat. Rockets had 60 rebounds in a game against the Thunder that is an automatic win.

[RedMike]

I love timmy but worst signing of all and i knew it.

I would rather have had the cap space and flexibility than bring him back on that contract.

Mavericks keep making moves with their heart and not their head.

[Nomad]

The value of Brunson is now apparent.

[theleica]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It’s amazing how the Cavs have rebuilt from the worst team in the league through the draft, trades, and free agency. And here are the Mavs who haven’t drafted, traded for, or signed a single impact player since Luka arrived. KP is the closest thing they’ve got, but he can’t stay healthy enough to make an impact. Look at these disaster adds.

Josh Green
WCS
Redick
Bullock
Sterling Brown
Tyler Bey
Tyrell Terry
Richardson
James Johnson

Just an absolute abomination of roster moves. And to make it all worse, they got rid of Curry, who you could easily argue would be the second best player on the team right now.

The crazy part about the Cavs rebuild is that they still have Kevin Love on their roster and he is their highest paid player by a wide margin. You also can't take away that the Cavs were horrific the previous 3 years and got rewarded through the draft for that.

On the flip side, the Mavs have had 2 second rounders and a first round pick since Luka was drafted. That won't move the bar with any team. My concern with the Mavs is I don't see where they go from here. Their roster has very little trade value with any player minus Luka. At this point you have to enjoy what Luka does individually and pray for a miracle from the front office.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by RedMike

I love timmy but worst signing of all and i knew it.

I would rather have had the cap space and flexibility than bring him back on that contract.

Mavericks keep making moves with their heart and not their head.

They had to sign him. If they didn’t, who were they replacing him with?

For all the talk of how great a players’ owner Cuban is, the guy has rarely been able to get free agents to land. If you let Hardaway go, it would be Bullock in his spot, and we’d really be throwing in the towel.

The Mavs have a primary talent problem at four of five positions in the depth chart.

At PG they are elite. Brunson struggles against teams with bigs who pack the paint because nobody can hit a shot. But otherwise he’s very good off the bench.

At SG they are bottom of the barrel bad right now. THJ is cold and Sterling Brown is not a guy who should be getting minutes in the NBA.

At SF they have DFS who is an above average defender whose only contribution on offense is to shoot wide open threes at a 35% clip. Then you have Reggie Bullock and his fantastic 35/27/51 shooting line.

Then at PF and C you have some mixture of KP, WCS, Powell, and Maxi. KP is the most useful of the bunch but can’t stay on the court. WCS is completely washed. Powell is too undersized on defense and adds nothing on offense. And Maxi is just like DFS. A guy the Mavs want you to think is a good three point shooter. But the reality is he’s an average catch and shoot three point shooter who has the luxury of playing with Luka.

I’m waiting on the NBA to update the shooting numbers from yesterday. Looks like they’re going to fall to the middle of the pack on wide open threes and be third to last in open threes.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by sportsfanatic

Yeah, Harrison and Cuban need to seriously get Luka some help. It's embarrassing the mediocre talent they've surrounded him with. They're wasting this kid's talent. A better coach would help too

Jordan and LeBron both had mediocre talent around them early in their career, something people tend to forget because investing in sports cards was not on the magnitude it is now. I simply enjoy his talents as a 22 year old and wait for Dallas to do more by the time he is 25 or for him to do a LeBron without the decision. It is always great to see him putting up numbers.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by theleica

The crazy part about the Cavs rebuild is that they still have Kevin Love on their roster and he is their highest paid player by a wide margin. You also can't take away that the Cavs were horrific the previous 3 years and got rewarded through the draft for that.

On the flip side, the Mavs have had 2 second rounders and a first round pick since Luka was drafted. That won't move the bar with any team. My concern with the Mavs is I don't see where they go from here. Their roster has very little trade value with any player minus Luka. At this point you have to enjoy what Luka does individually and pray for a miracle from the front office.

They don’t get a pass for not landing anything in the draft. They lost last year’s pick in the KP trade. In the 2020 draft they took Josh Green with the 18th pick. A guy who was a known project, which was absolutely what they did not need. And those second round picks were 31 and 36. Other teams are somehow capable of finding contributors in the second round. But the Mavs manage to take two guys who aren’t even on the roster a year later.

[RedMike]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Jordan and LeBron both had mediocre talent around them early in their career, something people tend to forget because investing in sports cards was not on the magnitude it is now. I simply enjoy his talents as a 22 year old and wait for Dallas to do more by the time he is 25 or for him to do a LeBron without the decision. It is always great to see him putting up numbers.

I would prefer it if they just let luka be luka like Carlisle did. Maybe he was on to something, he knew the roster was an absolute joke without luka so why not let luka do everything.

Jason Kidd new age Mavericks want to make other people contribute when the problem is... they suck at it.

[KhalDrogo]

Mavs have to win big this offseason. Really need Beal or Lavine. But if they can’t, they have to add Bridges or Ayton. They cannot walk away without one of those four if they are actually available.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by RedMike

I would prefer it if they just let luka be luka like Carlisle did. Maybe he was on to something, he knew the roster was an absolute joke without luka so why not let luka do everything.

Jason Kidd new age Mavericks want to make other people contribute when the problem is... they suck at it.

Luka has the highest usage and ast% in the league by a wide margin. What more could he be doing?

[RedMike]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Luka has the highest usage and ast% in the league by a wide margin. What more could he be doing?

Luka is forcing himself into that role, instead of the coaching staff game planning for it.

Mavericks were better last year and did more with less.

[theleica]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mavs have to win big this offseason. Really need Beal or Lavine. But if they can’t, they have to add Bridges or Ayton. They cannot walk away without one of those four if they are actually available.

Can you walk me through how is it possible they get any of these players? Don't they have ~$138 mil on the books for 2022-23?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by theleica

Can you walk me through how is it possible they get any of these players? Don't they have ~$138 mil on the books for 2022-23?

Going to have to S&T. Which is a long shot with what we have. Just shows how bad of a job the franchise has done in managing the roster since Luka got here.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by RedMike

Luka is forcing himself into that role, instead of the coaching staff game planning for it.

Mavericks were better last year and did more with less.

Well Kidd has proven to be a terrible coach. Not really sure why he even got another head coaching job

Everyone seemed to hate Carlisle but he actually had a really solid offensive system.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Well Kidd has proven to be a terrible coach. Not really sure why he even got another head coaching job

Everyone seemed to hate Carlisle but he actually had a really solid offensive system.

I grew to hate Rick because Cuban gave him too long of a leash. Rick had maxed out what he was going to achieve in Dallas. They should have parted ways a year prior, but Cuban is overly loyal to his guys. Probably because he knows nobody wants to come be a part of this #@#@#@#@ franchise.