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[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by brev87

I just recently got back a bunch of 8s and 7s on some Jordans. I've NEVER received a 10 on any Jordan card

Do they make sense or are they head scratchers? Usually I'm in agreement after the fact and seeing them back in person but this past few orders have been interesting.

[seanbros55]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Same here.

I'm at about 2 hours since the email.

Now 6 hours. Still no grades. Weird.

Edit: I live in CA. I sent my cards to Santa Ana. They’re coming from NJ.

[imbluestreak23]

Two orders dropped off at 1/18 drop off event, still nothing.

Previously this seemed like a sure fire way to get to the front of the line, not so much. Planned on attending the next one at PHX Suns stadium this weekend, but will just ship them in instead. At least barcoded, they will pop up as arrived.

[worldtravel00]

Originally Posted by worldtravel00

As of 2/1, PSA has not entered this as received. That's almost 3 weeks. That's unheard territory as PSA drop offs were recorded received in less than 5 days before. Waiting on the PSA customer service on order status.

PSA finally recorded that it's in order prep today
Promised date: 4/15 which is 50+ business days from 2/4

December 15-31 Sports card special (15 cards)
Dropped off @ PSA drop off event: 1/12
Arrived: Recorded on 2/4 as 1/13
Order Prep: 2/4.
Research:
Grading:
Assembly:
Grades:
Ship:

Next time, it looks like I will be sending them in instead of driving to drop off events. You'll get better assurance that it's been received at PSA a lot faster than drop off events which was never the case before.

[FT35]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Is there any way to check images of cards that they scanned after grades are posted? Two of my cards got 5's with a noticeable creased corner that was not there before. I have no idea what PSA is doing, but they destroyed two or more of my cards. Could they be running cards through scanners without any card savers for the grading process? I never had issues like this before with any grading company since I returned back in 2020. Yes, I miss a card here and there, but I don't submit half of my order with 5/6's from the 80/90's. Just gross.

Until it happens to them, people don’t truly understand the impact of what you and many others have experienced. They read these posts and think…”I haven’t seen that—sucks to be them.” I don’t know what it is either, but something major has changed. I have experienced subs that nearly all cards come back with new nicks/dings from what looks like scanner damage, and straight up damage from what looks like the case was pressed together with part of the card hanging out the side. No mention from them after supposedly “2 graders” looking at things. I’ve experienced subs where all cards come back super clean but the grades are 2-3 grades lower across the board—so not just a bad process—but many bad graders. Happens mainly with modern—80’s, 90’s & 2000’s cards.

Subbing cards to PSA used to be my favorite part of the hobby and at times, one of the more enjoyable parts of life (yes I’m that lame!!). I looked forward to it and found ways to make it happen more often. What has happened to you in your post was the norm for my 2024 PSA grading experience. Something major has changed and 1 by 1, people will come to the same position as you have only after it happens to them and think—wait a minute…this is total crap. Some will keep subbing regardless because it’s fun—others will wisely back off until or unless it’s publicly admitted/published and fixed by PSA.

[slogue2]

Order Type: December 1-15 Holiday Special
# of cards: 23
Est. Completion Date: 4/2/2025
Order Delivered: 12/23/2024
Order received per PSA: 12/23/2024 (Arrived - My Orders page)
Research & ID: 1/22/2025
Grading: 2/5/2025
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:

[f2tornado]

Got the rare overnight pop on my 90s special. 42/67 gem (63%), 20 Mint, 4 NM-MT, and one 6 on a Reggie White rookie that I found in a dollar box. I knew for near certain several were not gonna gem so the attempted gem percentage is higher. Really happy with the order since most of it came out of card show dollar boxes.

[prospectorgems]

I saw PSA updated their centering standards for PSA 10's. Removed the 60/40 and now sticking more so to the 55/45. Granted I never really submitted much at the 60/40 centering unless it was teetering close to it, but that was more so on older cards. The thing I am not happy about is anything I did submit many months ago that may have fell into the 60/40 centering will now not get a 10 if the rest of the card is pristine.

Since so many of my orders are stuck in the PSA Queue, I can't remember how many were close to 55/45 vs 60/40. The thing is as well, how long has PSA been using this standard of not utilizing the 60/40 centering guide they had on their site?

This makes me wonder if some of the 80s cards I had submitted and received back in the last month or so teetered on that centering change they made which may have resulted in 9's.

The other thing that is irritating to any of us submitting cards is how PSA keeps changing their standards which of course is resulting in lower grades. We as consumers are spending our hard earned money on their service and PSA can't release any type of communications on what they changed, more so they just go into the website and update their terms and then the consumers need to randomly notice it.

I have submitted a total of 3 1980's sports orders and the first one, sucked! The second one was decent which resulted in a few 10's and some decent 9's. The third one has been stuck in R&ID since 11/22 with an estimated completion date of 2/6 for which I know won't be finished in time which makes me wonder now if some of those may have bordered in the 60/40 range and if so, that change PSA made to their PSA 10 standards should not apply.

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I don't typically ever crack out cards. Will be doing this after my last submission. Absolutely horrific and sickening grades. Getting numerous 5's on 80/90's cards that are 8's. Not just one, but 50% of the order. I can't trust PSA after this. They either damaged all my cards by their new processes, using technology that doesn't work, or they have people smoking crack on the job. Maybe all three. SGC for vintage and CGC for modern from now on

I would guess you take photos or scans of everything before you ship out? I have to check mine more closely after the past few orders. I usually just snap a quick iPhone pic in the interest of time but I might have to go full scans from now on. Almost every single order there is 1 or 2 random 5's or 6's in sea of 8's 9's and 10's depending on the era sent. Like, really? Every single time, the random group of cards I choose to grade there's some 5 thrown in, it's like a Cracker Jack anti-prize they throw into every order.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by brev87

I just recently got back a bunch of 8s and 7s on some Jordans. I've NEVER received a 10 on any Jordan card

I got 18/30 gem on my Jordan cards in a recent order. 1 for 2 on my most recent. I hear at shows frequently that PSA is tough on Jordan cards. I did have one order a couple years ago that was 0 for 19 so there's probably some truth to it. I just don't bother sending them in unless they look flawless to the eye and nothing stands out under 10x.

[FT35]

Originally Posted by prospectorgems

I saw PSA updated their centering standards for PSA 10's. Removed the 60/40 and now sticking more so to the 55/45. Granted I never really submitted much at the 60/40 centering unless it was teetering close to it, but that was more so on older cards. The thing I am not happy about is anything I did submit many months ago that may have fell into the 60/40 centering will now not get a 10 if the rest of the card is pristine.

This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about! This should have been communicated over the top. We get 17 emails about a high-end grading “special” for $129/card, but they make a change in the grading criteria—effecting millions of cards, and there are crickets. If this is true, this is an example of a MAJOR procedural change in how cards are graded that differs from their decades-long published grading scale criteria.

That combined with AI machines or scanners mishandling and damaging cards—a picture of plausibility is beginning to form as to why so many orders are a mess.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by FT35

That combined with AI machines or scanners mishandling and damaging cards—a picture of plausibility is beginning to form as to why so many orders are a mess.

I'm near certain I've had at least four cards damaged at PSA in recent months. Two got scuffed on the upper right, one with a bent upper left corner, and one with a chipped upper left corner. Nothing worth getting bent out of shape over (puns always intended) since they were relatively cheap cards to begin with. Stuff happens but only once in many years have they acknowledged it on the front end. It is something they need to figure out.

[discodanman45]

My average grade for the 50's to 70's special was higher than my 80/90's special. The 50 to 70's were graded perfectly for 8/11 cards. I just can't trust what is going on at PSA. CGC worries me with what they are doing and SGC will be dismantled by Collectors. I am completely turned off by grading right now. Wish someone buys Beckett, hires competent graders, and gets someone like Peter from SGC to run them correctly.

[MyckKabongo]

Originally Posted by prospectorgems

I saw PSA updated their centering standards for PSA 10's. Removed the 60/40 and now sticking more so to the 55/45. Granted I never really submitted much at the 60/40 centering unless it was teetering close to it, but that was more so on older cards. The thing I am not happy about is anything I did submit many months ago that may have fell into the 60/40 centering will now not get a 10 if the rest of the card is pristine.

Since so many of my orders are stuck in the PSA Queue, I can't remember how many were close to 55/45 vs 60/40. The thing is as well, how long has PSA been using this standard of not utilizing the 60/40 centering guide they had on their site?

This makes me wonder if some of the 80s cards I had submitted and received back in the last month or so teetered on that centering change they made which may have resulted in 9's.

The other thing that is irritating to any of us submitting cards is how PSA keeps changing their standards which of course is resulting in lower grades. We as consumers are spending our hard earned money on their service and PSA can't release any type of communications on what they changed, more so they just go into the website and update their terms and then the consumers need to randomly notice it.

I have submitted a total of 3 1980's sports orders and the first one, sucked! The second one was decent which resulted in a few 10's and some decent 9's. The third one has been stuck in R&ID since 11/22 with an estimated completion date of 2/6 for which I know won't be finished in time which makes me wonder now if some of those may have bordered in the 60/40 range and if so, that change PSA made to their PSA 10 standards should not apply.

The 60/40 part was awkwardly worded previously. Experienced subbers should already know 60/40 was somewhere between dicey and no 10 shot on modern and ultra modern. The older the card the more leeway there is on centering. Still works that way as they clarified in the statement that graders still have discretion to allow worse than 55/45 in some cases (read: vintage, borderless, or otherwise perfect). I think this was more of a clarification to customers than a change in practices.

It's a needed clarification too. There are a ton of new graders that are making rookie mistakes right now. I'm following the Jayden Daniels market. There's a huge volume of 9s popping that shouldn't have been subbed because centering was hopeless.

[seanbros55]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Now 6 hours. Still no grades. Weird.

Edit: I live in CA. I sent my cards to Santa Ana. They’re coming from NJ.

Grades were available this morning.

33 cards - 17 x Gem Mint 10s, 11 x 9, 3 x 8, 1 x 7, 1 x 6

Sad thing is that 21 of the cards were Topps NOW, and went directly from the plastic case they were mailed in, into sleeves and CardSavers. Not sure how factory direct cards with absolutely no corner issues can get 8's and 7's but whatever.

Cant really complain, because the card I absolutely needed to Gem got a 10. (I'll update the Julio thread when I can...)

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Grades were available this morning.

33 cards - 17 x Gem Mint 10s, 11 x 9, 3 x 8, 1 x 7, 1 x 6

Sad thing is that 21 of the cards were Topps NOW, and went directly from the plastic case they were mailed in, into sleeves and CardSavers. Not sure how factory direct cards with absolutely no corner issues can get 8's and 7's but whatever.

Cant really complain, because the card I absolutely needed to Gem got a 10. (I'll update the Julio thread when I can...)

I got a recently order of 20 TN cards (well 22 counting the 2 parallels) and I'd say only half of them had a shot at getting a 10. Some had obvious surface scratching, a couple with noticeable surface dings.

[Wisztradamous]

Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

Do they make sense or are they head scratchers? Usually I'm in agreement after the fact and seeing them back in person but this past few orders have been interesting.

A few months back I got a PSA 7 on a 1995 Collector's Choice Silver, I knew it was a lot better. I cracked and resubbed.. got a PSA 10. That has happened a few times for me. Something to consider.

[Wisztradamous]

I might've read this somewhere before, but is it normal for my cards to go from Assembly straight to Completing without the grades being available?

Thanks guys, this is a first for me.

[synergy]

81% gems on this order! Feels really good after 3 lackluster orders in a row.

Value Bulk
Delivered: 11/04/2024
Received per PSA: 11/06/2024
Research & ID: 11/22/2024
Grading: 1/20/2025
Assembly: 1/21/2025
Grades Ready: 1/30/2025
QA: 1/30/2025
Shipped: 1/31/2025

Value Bulk
Delivered: 12/27/2024
Received per PSA: 1/01/2025
Research & ID: 1/14/2025
Grading: 1/19/2025
Assembly: 1/27/2025
Grades Ready: 2/4/2025
QA: 2/4/2025
Shipped: 2/5/2025

[synergy]

Anyone know what day PSA is currently at in terms of getting orders moved into research and id? Heard they were on Jan 5 a week or so ago

[Woodsy074]

Originally Posted by synergy

Anyone know what day PSA is currently at in terms of getting orders moved into research and id? Heard they were on Jan 5 a week or so ago

They are all over the place. Value Bulk orders from early January are already back to me.

[Havemercy]

Originally Posted by Woodsy074

They are all over the place. Value Bulk orders from early January are already back to me.

My experience right now is the same, had one delivered last week of Dec that's been done for over two weeks. A November special that's in assembly with a checkmark. Just finished one from early December and five other orders from beginning of Dec to Jan in Research and ID. Absolutely no rhyme or reason to which ones they're opening or completing. Some fly, other sit, some not even open.

[slogue2]

Order Type: December 1-15 Holiday Special
# of cards: 23
Est. Completion Date: 4/2/2025
Order Delivered: 12/23/2024
Order received per PSA: 12/23/2024 (Arrived - My Orders page)
Research & ID: 1/22/2025
Grading: 2/5/2025
Assembly: 2/7/2025
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by Wisztradamous

A few months back I got a PSA 7 on a 1995 Collector's Choice Silver, I knew it was a lot better. I cracked and resubbed.. got a PSA 10. That has happened a few times for me. Something to consider.

Wild..yes, I had opened a box of 1992-93 UD Bskb, the box was amazing, no sticking, bricking etc and clean clean cards, I sent in 20+ from the fanimations, Shaq rc, and others and got a wide range 7-10 and yes I couldn't barely differentiate the 7's from the 10's. they were all so clean and no whitening.

[FT35]

Originally Posted by Wisztradamous

A few months back I got a PSA 7 on a 1995 Collector's Choice Silver, I knew it was a lot better. I cracked and resubbed.. got a PSA 10. That has happened a few times for me. Something to consider.

That was my 2012 Heritage Trout. Originally graded a PSA 4. I had a new envelope ready to go before it got delivered back to me. I cracked it out and immediately resent it—came back a 9. A 5-grade difference. Someone looked at a mint conditioned card and said “nope—it’s a 4.” Where was the infamous, yet never confirmed “2nd grader” that we hear about being put in place as a safeguard against this kind of crap?

This happened a few years ago so not a part of the recent experiences of this being somewhat normalized.