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Old 07-18-2021, 05:34 PM   #22551
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Way I see it there are 5 golds non-autos to have:

-2016 XRC
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5 Golds/50 total
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Old 07-18-2021, 05:46 PM   #22552
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The Mahomes did about what I was expecting. They’re def down a bit from late last season but have held up well. Gotta remember too that theseare legit sales from pre qualified buyers and not just people on eBay/IG that may offer something and getting paid is a different story.

My other one will be up next month and hopefully will be in the $85-90 range with a little more season hype. After watching the 9 go for 80 the other day, it could’ve been much much worse
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Old 07-18-2021, 07:08 PM   #22553
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That Far Out Luminance went for 700...cool card.. Great photo

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Old 07-18-2021, 07:39 PM   #22554
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What do you guys think about the Gold XRC Vs. the Gold Satined Glass? Which one would be more desirable? Assuming the same grade, lets just say a PSA 10.

They are both out of 10. Both Gold. Both considered an insert? Which would bring more?
I'd rather have the XRC.

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Where would you guys value a 2017 blue prizm right now? BGS 9.5 and PSA 10?

I’m actively looking to add one or two big patty’s and considering that card and some others. PM me if you have anything high end you would consider selling.

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I have a 10, last one only did $15,600, I wouldn't sell for that.

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That Far Out Luminance went for 700...cool card.. Great photo

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I'm not into non-RC stuff, but checked it out after your comment and that's a pretty cool card.
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Old 07-18-2021, 10:48 PM   #22555
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That Far Out Luminance went for 700...cool card.. Great photo

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Luminance has some really nice SP inserts. I was a big fan of the case hits last year as well (Shining Stars, Jubilee, and Moments). I just can’t imagine spending $700 on a luminance 2021 insert, though I will look to pick one up when they are a quarter of the value in a couple years…


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Old 07-18-2021, 10:50 PM   #22556
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The Mahomes did about what I was expecting. They’re def down a bit from late last season but have held up well. Gotta remember too that theseare legit sales from pre qualified buyers and not just people on eBay/IG that may offer something and getting paid is a different story.

My other one will be up next month and hopefully will be in the $85-90 range with a little more season hype. After watching the 9 go for 80 the other day, it could’ve been much much worse

Congrats arod. Good luck on the next one as well. Game changing moolah there


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Old 07-18-2021, 10:53 PM   #22557
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What do you guys think about the Gold XRC Vs. the Gold Satined Glass? Which one would be more desirable? Assuming the same grade, lets just say a PSA 10.

They are both out of 10. Both Gold. Both considered an insert? Which would bring more?

Gold XRC, no question


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Old 07-18-2021, 11:26 PM   #22558
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5 Golds/50 total
I feel grateful to have 1 of these copies.

It would be my collecting goal to get 1 of each of the 5, but it would be so damn expensive now. Probably cost $400-500k, and that's if I didn't chase PSA 10s
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:21 AM   #22559
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[QUOTE=pejc300;17504903]Gold XRC would destroy a gold stained glass in my opinion. The XRC is considered to be more of a rookie card (or a pre-rookie card) while Stained Glass is definitely an insert. Easy decision for me, but not everyone will agree.

100% agree the gold xrc would destroy it,but as far as eye appeal,the gold stained glass is a much prettier card.
Just to clarify though...does a numbered /10 case hit constitute as an insert?
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Old 07-19-2021, 08:08 AM   #22560
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The Mahomes did about what I was expecting. They’re def down a bit from late last season but have held up well. Gotta remember too that theseare legit sales from pre qualified buyers and not just people on eBay/IG that may offer something and getting paid is a different story.

My other one will be up next month and hopefully will be in the $85-90 range with a little more season hype. After watching the 9 go for 80 the other day, it could’ve been much much worse

Congrats Arod!


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Old 07-19-2021, 09:02 AM   #22561
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If the PSA 9 recently sold for $8300, where does that put a BGS 10? Thanks!



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That’s a beautiful card! Just an FYI - I don’t think that PSA 9 sale was legitimate, the same card is relisted on eBay by the same seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/334077887606


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Old 07-19-2021, 02:18 PM   #22562
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The Mahomes did about what I was expecting. They’re def down a bit from late last season but have held up well. Gotta remember too that theseare legit sales from pre qualified buyers and not just people on eBay/IG that may offer something and getting paid is a different story.

My other one will be up next month and hopefully will be in the $85-90 range with a little more season hype. After watching the 9 go for 80 the other day, it could’ve been much much worse
Are u going to roll it in to another big purchase? If this in an inappropriate question I apologize.

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Old 07-19-2021, 02:54 PM   #22563
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Don’t buy raw from probstein.

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Old 07-19-2021, 04:15 PM   #22564
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This optic holo was listed as razor sharp by probstein..haha sigh. My first time attempting to return something on eBay. He says he doesn’t accept returns but I stated the item wasn’t as described and took pictures. I should be okay right?



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Maybe your picture doesn't do it justice, but this is considered return-worthy "damage" now? Sad state of the "hobby"

Did you really expect a gem mint or even mint card from a raw Probstein listing? All their listings have those buzzwords in the title.

Also, they actually had a scan of the back on that listing and it's clearly visible.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:24 PM   #22565
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Maybe your picture doesn't do it justice, but this is considered return-worthy "damage" now? Sad state of the "hobby"

Did you really expect a gem mint or even mint card from a raw Probstein listing? All their listings have those buzzwords in the title.

Also, they actually had a scan of the back on that listing and it's clearly visible.

Probstein deserves all the trouble they get. If they don’t disclose the damage in the listing then it is 100% on them. Would you be satisfied if you dropped that kind of money only to have it show up with that damage?


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Old 07-19-2021, 06:32 PM   #22566
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Probstein deserves all the trouble they get. If they don’t disclose the damage in the listing then it is 100% on them. Would you be satisfied if you dropped that kind of money only to have it show up with that damage?
It’s right in the picture in the listing. Not trying to defend Probstein, but that edge damage was obvious in the eBay picture.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:36 PM   #22567
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Old 07-19-2021, 07:20 PM   #22568
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Probstein deserves all the trouble they get. If they don’t disclose the damage in the listing then it is 100% on them. Would you be satisfied if you dropped that kind of money only to have it show up with that damage?


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If I paid "that kind of money(roughly what a PSA 8 would cost)," I would look closely at the scans and see there was an issue with the back edge. If there was an issue that wasn't clearly visible, I would feel differently. Would Probstein disclose if there were? No, but that's a separate issue.

If you know their practices and still choose to do business with them, I have no sympathy. Buying a raw card from Probstein or PWCC, I would expect AT BEST a min. grade reject and at worst an altered card.

If the seller was a member of the boards and not Probstein, the buyer would get dragged.
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Old 07-19-2021, 09:06 PM   #22569
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The listing said razor sharp. I looked at the backside corners and they looked clean from the two pics so I took a chance. I’ve bought many raw cards off eBay and never expect gem but if they list it as razor sharp, I expect mint or close to a psa 9. I don’t think that’s too much to ask. Card almost looks trimmed. Both top and bottom edges are off and I’ve never seen one like it and I’ve handled/inspected well over a thousand 2017 optic cards.


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Old 07-19-2021, 09:11 PM   #22570
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If I paid "that kind of money(roughly what a PSA 8 would cost)," I would look closely at the scans and see there was an issue with the back edge. If there was an issue that wasn't clearly visible, I would feel differently. Would Probstein disclose if there were? No, but that's a separate issue.

If you know their practices and still choose to do business with them, I have no sympathy. Buying a raw card from Probstein or PWCC, I would expect AT BEST a min. grade reject and at worst an altered card.

If the seller was a member of the boards and not Probstein, the buyer would get dragged.

I knew pwcc had a history of trimming but never knew of probstein doing the same. Learned my lesson. It said “razor sharp”...don’t care who you are but why put that when it’s entirely false. It’s begging for a return.


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Old 07-19-2021, 09:14 PM   #22571
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If I paid "that kind of money(roughly what a PSA 8 would cost)," I would look closely at the scans and see there was an issue with the back edge. If there was an issue that wasn't clearly visible, I would feel differently. Would Probstein disclose if there were? No, but that's a separate issue.

If you know their practices and still choose to do business with them, I have no sympathy. Buying a raw card from Probstein or PWCC, I would expect AT BEST a min. grade reject and at worst an altered card.

If the seller was a member of the boards and not Probstein, the buyer would get dragged.

No member of these boards would list this card as razor sharp.
I didn’t know he put this in all of his titles. If it was a lesser expensive card I would just forget it but spending $1200 on a raw card, I returned. Sorry to all I offended. Also, most certainly not looking for any sympathy..


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Old 07-19-2021, 10:17 PM   #22572
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No member of these boards would list this card as razor sharp.
I didn’t know he put this in all of his titles. If it was a lesser expensive card I would just forget it but spending $1200 on a raw card, I returned. Sorry to all I offended. Also, most certainly not looking for any sympathy..


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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure you would've kept the card had the "razor sharp" not been in the title. You might've had to accept a little responsibility then.

But, I suspect you knew your post might make you look bad since you edited it out before I even responded.

If you want gem mint 10's, pay gem mint 10 prices and buy them.
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Old 07-19-2021, 10:26 PM   #22573
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure you would've kept the card had the "razor sharp" not been in the title. You might've had to accept a little responsibility then.

But, I suspect you knew your post might make you look bad since you edited it out before I even responded.

If you want gem mint 10's, pay gem mint 10 prices and buy them.

This is the first time I’ve ever returned anything. I edited my post here because he accepted the return very quickly so my question didn’t need to be answered. Sleep better at night? Your aggressive replies are a joke. I don’t expect psa 10s when I buy raw. You are assuming an awful lot. If the title wasn’t as so, I wouldn’t have bid on the card.


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In other news, chiefs didn’t land Melvin Ingram..bummer.


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Old 07-19-2021, 10:57 PM   #22575
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Better get Justin Houston on the horn.
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