Addressing the issue:

[NeedChapmans]

Scout

Kudos to you for defending whom I can only assume is a good friend of yours. If you drove 11 hours to set up and split a table with Mike, you must know him well (at least mildly).

And while I can appreciate your "leave the guy alone" type of posts ... you cannot fault the people on this board for questioning each and every deal Mike has done in the last few years because of what he has proven to do. There is proof he shilled auctions, there is proof he sold fraudulent cards, there is proof he thought neither of those acts were a big deal (because he brazenly posted about them). Yes, some have gone too far in the things they've said, but pay no attention to those people ... focus only on what you know to be true / Mike Cancelliere tried to scam someone.

Now, as for what Mike should have said when he came on here; that's easy.

"To the Blowout Board.

I'm a (#*!head. I bought a cheap card that came to me more off-centered than I thought it was. Slightly angry, I decided to grab a pen that was pretty close the color of the Arcia auto, and wrote in his twitter handle. I then submitted a fraudulent card to BGS without telling them, received the card back (somewhat surprised it was graded) and decided to list it on eBay.

I then was dumb enough to tell someone what I've done, and rather than fess up to it early, tried to cover my tracks in the hopes I would not be found it. When it was clear all of the evidence showed what I had done, I was approached by a BO Mod who demanded a statement on the forums before deciding whether or not to ban me for life. That's what I have done.

I was stupid, inconsiderate, and I know what I have done was a terrible terrible thing to do. I know many will not forgive my actions, nor should they, but I can only hope that I remain on these boards long enough to work hard at instilling the trust so many have given me, and the trust I have taken for granted.

Mike Cancelliere"

So stand by Mike all you want, that's fine. But don't condone his actions, don't write them off as "no big deal" because even though this was only for $200, it is a very very big deal. Hold him accountable for what he did, and just move on.

[oldgoldy97]

[chezball]

so now the question is,who were the guy or guys shilling his cards 4 years ago,are they the guys defending him now?

[fitch123]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Another dude is on camera making excuses for this clown. Its another person from his booth. Its thescout and he says it will die down in a week hahah all of it has been streaming. I guess he thinks its off haha

FCB Box Breaks on USTREAM: This is where we break the boxes. Live from the FCB Retail Store.. Baseball

I just clicked it and the guy was eating a quadruple cheesburger. Exactly what I want to watch on Ustream in between card breaks.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by fitch123

I just clicked it and the guy was eating a quadruple cheesburger. Exactly what I want to watch on Ustream in between card breaks.

both parties shuffled off feeling what I can only imagine quite silly. Both came up guns a blazin, both left horseless and confused. I apologize you missed it

[90sbaseballfan]

Originally Posted by fitch123

I just clicked it and the guy was eating a quadruple cheesburger. Exactly what I want to watch on Ustream in between card breaks.

FCB stands for Fat Cheese Burger!

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by fitch123

I just clicked it and the guy was eating a quadruple cheesburger. Exactly what I want to watch on Ustream in between card breaks.

Why did this scene jump into my head?

[metsplaya123]

What exactly happend in the video toneddeaf? I missed it

[fly606us]

I Started a Joke - Bee Gees - YouTube

[gmsieb]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Scout

So stand by Mike all you want, that's fine. But don't condone his actions, don't write them off as "no big deal" because even though this was only for $200, it is a very very big deal. Hold him accountable for what he did, and just move on.

I have no clue who scout is, but I have read most of this thread. I dont see anything where he has condoned what mike did.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by gmsieb

I have no clue who scout is, but I have read most of this thread. I dont see anything where he has condoned what mike did.

"I have no clue who scout is, but I have read most of this thread. I dont see anything where he has condoned what mike did" = Well I've read most of the constitution and I didn't see anything in there about freedom of speech.

[gmsieb]

This is what CG had to say at the end of both meetings


Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
The Scout has nothing to do with this. He came over here like a man and talked things out and calmly explained the situation. I have nothing but respect for the way he handled him self here at the FCB booth.

After the initial confrontation with Mike things went smoothly as well. It was a very good conversation and it seems like he is going to take his lumps and push through it. He's young, he made a mistake, and I think that this will blow over for him.

More was made of this than it actually was. No one was scammed, and as high as his price was on the item I really don't think he was seriously trying to move the card.

It's a joke gone bad.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by thescout

I am not defending the inscription at all, let me make that clear, but I think I lost just a tiny amount of hope in the future seeing all of the pure hatred that is being spit out by every so many people on here. I keep seeing so many reasons why everything he said after the debacle was the wrong thing to do and say, but really what IS the right thing to do? I can tell you with what I've seen at the show he is sorry and I can tell you that I personally told him mid day to stop responding because I thought it would just make it worse. I do think he meant everything he said in his response above including where he defended himself on some of the outlandish accusations that weren't related to this terrible situation. I'm not important on here, not really, and I don't think anyone cares too much what I have to say, but I hope if you are a mature adult you can try to understand that mike is 19 and royally screwed up...he hasn't seen, heard or experienced many situations that many of us have and he did a poor job handling a situation that was his own doing.

I don't know the answer. I barely know how or where to even begin to advise him to try and make things better, but there is zero need for some of the purely hate-filled responses even if negative comments and feelings are warranted. It's hard for this community to teach a 19 year old kid a lesson when members of this forum are saying some of the childish things that are being said.

Why don't we try and give a few pieces of constructive criticism to try and help Mike learn an actual life lesson even if the answer from BO is going to be a suspension or ban? Aren't we at least good enough as a community to at least try that? I literally met mike yesterday and I think he deserves at least that based on my experience.

Originally Posted by gmsieb

I have no clue who scout is, but I have read most of this thread. I dont see anything where he has condoned what mike did.

Maybe you aren't reading into his response like a lot of people are.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by gmsieb

This is what CG had to say at the end of both meetings


Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
The Scout has nothing to do with this. He came over here like a man and talked things out and calmly explained the situation. I have nothing but respect for the way he handled him self here at the FCB booth.

After the initial confrontation with Mike things went smoothly as well. It was a very good conversation and it seems like he is going to take his lumps and push through it. He's young, he made a mistake, and I think that this will blow over for him.

More was made of this than it actually was. No one was scammed, and as high as his price was on the item I really don't think he was seriously trying to move the card.

It's a joke gone bad.

He downplayed it big time as someone who watched both live. He just down want problems and I cant blame him. A person scamming on BO and EBAY has nothing to do with him and his company booth.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by gmsieb

This is what CG had to say at the end of both meetings


Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
The Scout has nothing to do with this. He came over here like a man and talked things out and calmly explained the situation. I have nothing but respect for the way he handled him self here at the FCB booth.

After the initial confrontation with Mike things went smoothly as well. It was a very good conversation and it seems like he is going to take his lumps and push through it. He's young, he made a mistake, and I think that this will blow over for him.

More was made of this than it actually was. 1) No one was scammed, and 2) as high as his price was on the item I really don't think he was seriously trying to move the card.

It's a joke gone bad.

1) Unlike when he shill bid on ebay
2) Uhhh, it was supposed to be a super rare card where all the rest have gone for big money. If it was a joke, why not list it for BIN of $1.99? That would have been funny. Or BIN for $1,000,000.

[Haze28]

I posted a link of the original thread from yesterday on the Beckett boards to see if anyone from Beckett had anything to say about the inscription card and the thread was whacked in a matter of hours lol.

[Sikkcaden]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

1) Unlike when he shill bid on ebay
2) Uhhh, it was supposed to be a super rare card where all the rest have gone for big money. If it was a joke, why not list it for BIN of $1.99? That would have been funny. Or BIN for $1,000,000.

Bingo.


His initial response was that he pulled it like that, then his response to getting caught was "haha damn". Clearly a big joke, just having some fun.

There's a ton of members on this forum with a great sense of humor but none of us have ever made that "joke".

Where there's smoke there's fire. That's all I'm saying.

I'm fairly confident I'm done with this ordeal. There's still some stuff to figure out but that's on someone else lol

[gamboooler]

I'm not going to read through all of this again, but anyone that believes the garbage being pushed in the OP is a fool.

[SerialKilnWalkr]

Thread has been moved...

We all know what that means...

Look out for the LOCK!

[Strasburg]

I hope this gets locked. You guys are beating a dead horse. Hes been banned, its over.

[JenAndKylesCard]

Originally Posted by dthimesch

no it sounds like your "source" is a chickencrap foward that just hangs around Mike's booth so he can run to you about witch hunt stories to post on here.

Originally Posted by Sikkcaden

Different "source", but why would people want to throw their names out there when there's plenty of fan boys and illogical people who will bash them for being helpful?

Time to be an adult.

Originally Posted by Mrpokey

Exactly, Mike is gone, so I see no reason why this source can't just come out and speak for himself if he has something to say

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

I can think of several, one of which is maybe he is set up at his table with him at the national.

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

So who is at his table with him? Cause whether you guys like it or not they now could be involved somehow.

Adults say and do the right thing regardless of fanboy bashing. Your source must have been cut out of what ever deal MC had and is now retaliating. ( I haven't read the whole post, just my thoughts up to this point) Why else would he pal around with him and then say stuff behind his back. A true friend would slap him in the face and tell him to grow the Eff up and not try and pull stuff like this.

in b4 lock

[WCTYSON]

Originally Posted by Strasburg

I hope this gets locked. You guys are beating a dead horse. Hes been banned, its over.

I think not. He is still able to conduct himself within the hobby. Just because he was banned from here does not mean that he should not exposed further. Members here quite often are members elsewhere, on Ebay and go to shows. So no, it is not over.

Originally Posted by JenAndKylesCard

Adults say and do the right thing regardless of fanboy bashing. Your source must have been cut out of what ever deal MC had and is now retaliating. ( I haven't read the whole post, just my thoughts up to this point) Why else would he pal around with him and then say stuff behind his back. A true friend would slap him in the face and tell him to grow the Eff up and not try and pull stuff like this.

in b4 lock

Let me say that just because you conduct business with someone does not make them a friend. We as members here, mostly do not even know what the other people look like. I do agree a true friend would have put him in his place but how many people around here and in the hobby are real friends? I would say not many.

[Bullpup]

Been following this somewhat closely the last day or so...looks like you guys got 'er done. Congrats.

[Wings]

Shilling and this? His name is completely ruined.

[ageofreason13]

Originally Posted by raidersfan1983

i wish this was true bud, we have dealt with each other before and what I would ask in all of this is that you just *consider* the chance that you submitted some raw cards, maybe some harper rc's, some trouts, darvish, etc. mike submits them, he *obviously* doesn't have any other raw versions of these cards, and they all come back with min grades required of 9.5. considering this issue and some of the other things that have been brought to light between the 40 or so pages of threads. do you truly believe that there is no chance that you perhaps received back some "non qualifying" cards and a 9.5 or 2 that may have been 9.5 and 10s? is it outside the realm of possibility? i have not completed a deal (although he did agree to a deal with a price with me before and decided after the fact he no longer wanted to pay) so I know he has not directly scammed me, but there is little doubt in my mind that he likely scammed and subbed out other peoples cards in his submissions.

I would absolutely think twice now about doing another submission with him. He has not scammed me, and I know this for a fact. I didnt send him any cards without a printed serial number on the card. It is hard to swap out one of those. I can see how it would be possible on other cards for him to do that.

I thought I'd post something positive, because until now Mike was a well respected member. Hopefully these mistakes are isolated incidents.