Potential Worth of Soccer Cards as Market Grows - Page 9

Josie27 · 02-12-2020, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Prices for a very few top players (i.e. Messi, CR7, maybe Mpabbe) are rising, but the market overall is very narrow.

Whomever you would consider to be the 20th best player in the world is seeing little to no interest at all.

I'm not so sure about that. Not saying the value increased exponentially like basketball and baseball have over the past few years. I sell a decent amount from my COMC account. Optic Rated Rookiesand vet Optic parallels are nice cards and catching on.I think quality cards like Prizm move well too.

Just one example but I have that Christian Eriksen Gold Prizm /10 from 2018 Prizm World Cup listed on eBay for $175. I am shocked by the number of offers received so quickly, most I have received on any card. Maybe its listed too low who knows. Hard to know as there are not many comps. World Cup Prizm is a great product. Cards looks clean and I especially like the lazer parallels. 24 packs per box with a ton of color.

Topps Chrome is meh. I like the look of parallels but they do not hold much value. Wax is cheap and which I def appreciate.

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AsianBrizz · 02-13-2020, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Prices for a very few top players (i.e. Messi, CR7, maybe Mpabbe) are rising, but the market overall is very narrow.

Whomever you would consider to be the 20th best player in the world is seeing little to no interest at all.

Nonsense. Just a few weeks ago, I saw a 1928 card of Uruguayan legend Jose Andrade go for $600. Then a Jose Nasazzi (from the same set) went for over $400. Both cards had multiple bidders. I am seeing the same thing with other cards of some of the game's legends like Di Stefano, Meredith, G.O. Smith, Sindelar, Luisito, Alcantara, and on and on.

I collect vintage cards and the prices for these cards are definitely rising, even if you can't see it.

Raj3sh · 02-13-2020, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianBrizz

Nonsense. Just a few weeks ago, I saw a 1928 card of Uruguayan legend Jose Andrade go for $600. Then a Jose Nasazzi (from the same set) went for over $400. Both cards had multiple bidders. I am seeing the same thing with other cards of some of the game's legends like Di Stefano, Meredith, G.O. Smith, Sindelar, Luisito, Alcantara, and on and on.

I collect vintage cards and the prices for these cards are definitely rising, even if you can't see it.

i agree with you , the vintage pele's are going for huge money.

fadster · 02-13-2020, 07:12 AM

Not just Pele, Maradona is doing very well at the moment. 3rd year 1979 Panini's are going for thousands in PSA 9 & 10. It would be interesting to see what his highest graded PSA first and second year issues would fetch (think the highest are only around a 6 or 7 though). Likewise in the last few months we've seen a 1999 PSA 10 Ronaldinho go for $1800, a PSA 5 Palirex Cruyff for $1100, PSA 9 Barratt A12 Best $2400. It's not just high grade though, the population reports are still quite small so even low to mid grade rookies of guys like Garrincha, Van Basten, Platini, Zidane pull in hundreds of dollars.

That's just vintage, excluding Pele, Maradona, Messi, Ronaldo & Mbappe here are the top recent auction sales on ebay, a lot of strong prices all around!

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fsr...c&LH_Auction=1

Man I had no idea the prizm logos were so popular, wonder if a Man Utd one would top the Liverpool one?

ThoseBackPages · 02-13-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Prices for a very few top players (i.e. Messi, CR7, maybe Mpabbe) are rising, but the market overall is very narrow.

Whomever you would consider to be the 20th best player in the world is seeing little to no interest at all.

name a sport where this ISNT the case?

k13 · 02-13-2020, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

name a sport where this ISNT the case?

Other sports will have 3-5 hot rookies each year plus other established stars.

A never heard of goalie on Columbus blue jackets is getting more interest right now than Ronaldo is.

Next week/month/year it will be someone else.

There's Jeremy Lin's all the time. Never in soccer.

borizz941 · 02-13-2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fadster

Not just Pele, Maradona is doing very well at the moment. 3rd year 1979 Panini's are going for thousands in PSA 9 & 10. It would be interesting to see what his highest graded PSA first and second year issues would fetch (think the highest are only around a 6 or 7 though). Likewise in the last few months we've seen a 1999 PSA 10 Ronaldinho go for $1800, a PSA 5 Palirex Cruyff for $1100, PSA 9 Barratt A12 Best $2400. It's not just high grade though, the population reports are still quite small so even low to mid grade rookies of guys like Garrincha, Van Basten, Platini, Zidane pull in hundreds of dollars.

That's just vintage, excluding Pele, Maradona, Messi, Ronaldo & Mbappe here are the top recent auction sales on ebay, a lot of strong prices all around!

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fsr...c&LH_Auction=1

Man I had no idea the prizm logos were so popular, wonder if a Man Utd one would top the Liverpool one?

Great point about the logos. I noticed the same thing! Some cards that are relatable in terms of being sought after are the mascots and stadiums refractors out of 2014 & 2018 world cup prizm. The EPL prizm prices are insane though.

bberns · 02-13-2020, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustOM

I should add that if the Middle East wakes up, hobby-wise, it will be an insane amount of money flowing into the hobby. And they clearly prefer soccer to anything else.

That's true. All it takes is a few Qatari princes to decide they need every Ronaldo auto under the sun.

IndySportsCards · 02-13-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bberns

That's true. All it takes is a few Qatari princes to decide they need every Ronaldo auto under the sun.

A Qatari princess can just BUY RONALDO.

bberns · 02-14-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

A Qatari princess can just BUY RONALDO.

Ha! He is probably the one person beyond purchase. His bank account is not lacking.

avalanchefan21 · 02-15-2020, 10:32 AM

CR/messi are the jordan rookies of soccer. The youth idolize these guys and if they ever want to grab a rookie of their idol, not doubt demand will rise. And its not like these rookies are produced in mass. Tons have probably been trashed

AsianBrizz · 02-16-2020, 03:12 AM

Messi and Ronaldo rookies are, indeed, great rookies, but if you wanna call something the Jordan rookie of soccer, I'd be more inclined to go with the 1958 Alfa of Pele, produced in Sweden. Or the 1992 Panini of Zidane, produced in France. Or maybe rookies of Eusebio (from 1962) or Maradona (1977), which are both so hard to find that most people have never seen one.

I have dozens of Messi and Ronaldo rookies, but older cards are much harder to find. I'd be shocked to learn that anyone has dozens of Jordan rookies lying around...

fadster · 02-16-2020, 11:11 AM

I'd say any of the Alfa, Quigol or Titulares 1958 Pele's could be called the Jordan rookie of soccer. Messi and Ronaldo Megacracks are more like the Topps Chrome Lebron of soccer, although in both cases there are fewer of the soccer cards.

ThoseBackPages · 02-16-2020, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianBrizz

Messi and Ronaldo rookies are, indeed, great rookies, but if you wanna call something the Jordan rookie of soccer, I'd be more inclined to go with the 1958 Alfa of Pele, produced in Sweden. Or the 1992 Panini of Zidane, produced in France. Or maybe rookies of Eusebio (from 1962) or Maradona (1977), which are both so hard to find that most people have never seen one.

I have dozens of Messi and Ronaldo rookies, but older cards are much harder to find. I'd be shocked to learn that anyone has dozens of Jordan rookies lying around...

Thats the thing... the Jordan RC is where it is, because it IS widely available

those cards (or even worse, stickers?) that you mention are far too scarce for the discussion

and yes, there are a nice amount of people that have quantity of Jordan RCs

bberns · 02-18-2020, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Thats the thing... the Jordan RC is where it is, because it IS widely available

those cards (or even worse, stickers?) that you mention are far too scarce for the discussion

and yes, there are a nice amount of people that have quantity of Jordan RCs

Exactly. I thought the Jordan comp was perfect.

The Pele's, Zidane's of the world are more akin to Wilt, Oscar, etc. --> ll-time greats that are largely overlooked.

Ianhatcher · 02-19-2020, 01:00 PM

I think Jordan was the first global phenom much like CR7 and Messi so that comparison makes more sense to me too.

Raj3sh · 02-19-2020, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

I think Jordan was the first global phenom much like CR7 and Messi so that comparison makes more sense to me too.

Pele and Maradona are already global superstars from 1950's and 1980's.

Soccer/Football is the most popular sport in the planet.

thop · 02-19-2020, 03:05 PM

hello,

does anyone have an explanation for the sudden rise of value for some Mbappe cards?

cheers

IndySportsCards · 02-19-2020, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thop

hello,

does anyone have an explanation for the sudden rise of value for some Mbappe cards?

cheers

Considered by many to be the best player in the world, justified or not, people are bidding his stuff up.

jrg1128 · 02-19-2020, 03:39 PM

Considering picking up some Jadon. Went thru my Prizm WC that I had and found a few more base and a mojo Mbappe. Also sent a couple of Pulisic DD's into PSA a couple months ago but they are backed up. Both looked like 10's so hoping for a nice grader

I hit a tie dye /30 of Pulisic from 2016-17 Select. I wish I still had that card.

bberns · 02-19-2020, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Pele and Maradona are already global superstars from 1950's and 1980's.

Soccer/Football is the most popular sport in the planet.

I understand, but it's about what the middle-aged people with increasing disposal income want to buy. Not who were the best all-time players. In 10-20 years, people will want to buy Messi and Ronaldo because that is who they grew up idolizing (just like Jordan now and LeBron in 10-20 years).

avalanchefan21 · 02-19-2020, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Considered by many to be the best player in the world, justified or not, people are bidding his stuff up.

Plus hes 21 and assuming all goes to plan can play in 4 more world cups and he might take over as the time goalscorer at the wc. With the rate hes banging in goals at his age he'll really put up #s.

Plus he is bound to make a move to a more popular team in a league with more fans than ligue 1 / PSG where ppl will see him regularly, if he can reproduce what hes doing at PSG with this new club

Prices ^^^^^

IndySportsCards · 02-19-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by avalanchefan21

Plus hes 21 and assuming all goes to plan can play in 4 more world cups and he might take over as the time goalscorer at the wc. With the rate hes banging in goals at his age he'll really put up #s.

Plus he is bound to make a move to a more popular team in a league with more fans than ligue 1 / PSG where ppl will see him regularly, if he can reproduce what hes doing at PSG with this new club

Prices ^^^^^

Well then I should get some more rookies

BTW; There is a dual Sancho/Haaland up at Topps right now for anyone interested.

Akphillips86 · 02-19-2020, 04:42 PM

I’m officially sold on the potential of the soccer card market (especially CR7, Messi, and Sancho), but still learning the ropes. One thing that trips me up at times is finding what is considered a player’s true rookie card. Some cards have 2 years like basketball (2016-2017) and others just one. For instance, I picked up a 2017 Revolution Pulisic Disco /25 and a 2018 Kylian Mbappe RWB Prizm. Unsure if these are considered second year cards or rookies? Love the cards either way, but appreciate any input. Thanks in advance!

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avalanchefan21 · 02-19-2020, 10:59 PM

There always seems to be confusion on which card is considered a rookie.

They usually have stickers first which ppl overlook. Then Adrenalyn/match attax (which ppl miss since the are made for sale exclusively in limited countries. Team photo cards, these are missed since nobody really knows about them, and aren;t really considered official cards since they aren't made by a major manufacturer. Then of course there are the mainstream cards (ie: topps finest, panini prizm, etc)

For example mbappe has cards in 2017-18 Panini Adrenalyn XL Foot Ligue 1. These were made in France and were released prior to the 2018 World cup, but if you look at card sales, his prizm rookies totally outweigh the adrenalyn cards

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROOKIE-SOCC...AAAOSwdd5dXCHa
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PANINI-ROOK...UAAOSwUvldKLqb

Wouldnt be shocked if they never catch the steam like the prizm cards do... but you never know

02-19-2020, 03:05 PM	#218
thop Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 31 inside-the-box inside_the_box	hello, does anyone have an explanation for the sudden rise of value for some Mbappe cards? cheers __________________ www.inside-the-box.de

02-13-2020, 07:12 AM	#204
fadster Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,275 fadster	Not just Pele, Maradona is doing very well at the moment. 3rd year 1979 Panini's are going for thousands in PSA 9 & 10. It would be interesting to see what his highest graded PSA first and second year issues would fetch (think the highest are only around a 6 or 7 though). Likewise in the last few months we've seen a 1999 PSA 10 Ronaldinho go for $1800, a PSA 5 Palirex Cruyff for $1100, PSA 9 Barratt A12 Best $2400. It's not just high grade though, the population reports are still quite small so even low to mid grade rookies of guys like Garrincha, Van Basten, Platini, Zidane pull in hundreds of dollars. That's just vintage, excluding Pele, Maradona, Messi, Ronaldo & Mbappe here are the top recent auction sales on ebay, a lot of strong prices all around! https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fsr...c&LH_Auction=1 Man I had no idea the prizm logos were so popular, wonder if a Man Utd one would top the Liverpool one?

02-15-2020, 10:32 AM	#211
avalanchefan21 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 845	CR/messi are the jordan rookies of soccer. The youth idolize these guys and if they ever want to grab a rookie of their idol, not doubt demand will rise. And its not like these rookies are produced in mass. Tons have probably been trashed

02-16-2020, 03:12 AM	#212
AsianBrizz Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 300	Messi and Ronaldo rookies are, indeed, great rookies, but if you wanna call something the Jordan rookie of soccer, I'd be more inclined to go with the 1958 Alfa of Pele, produced in Sweden. Or the 1992 Panini of Zidane, produced in France. Or maybe rookies of Eusebio (from 1962) or Maradona (1977), which are both so hard to find that most people have never seen one. I have dozens of Messi and Ronaldo rookies, but older cards are much harder to find. I'd be shocked to learn that anyone has dozens of Jordan rookies lying around...

02-16-2020, 11:11 AM	#213
fadster Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,275 fadster	I'd say any of the Alfa, Quigol or Titulares 1958 Pele's could be called the Jordan rookie of soccer. Messi and Ronaldo Megacracks are more like the Topps Chrome Lebron of soccer, although in both cases there are fewer of the soccer cards.

02-19-2020, 01:00 PM	#216
Ianhatcher Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,961 ian5555	I think Jordan was the first global phenom much like CR7 and Messi so that comparison makes more sense to me too.

02-19-2020, 03:39 PM	#220
jrg1128 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,290 jrgbball	Considering picking up some Jadon. Went thru my Prizm WC that I had and found a few more base and a mojo Mbappe. Also sent a couple of Pulisic DD's into PSA a couple months ago but they are backed up. Both looked like 10's so hoping for a nice grader I hit a tie dye /30 of Pulisic from 2016-17 Select. I wish I still had that card.

02-19-2020, 04:42 PM	#224
Akphillips86 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 2,960	I’m officially sold on the potential of the soccer card market (especially CR7, Messi, and Sancho), but still learning the ropes. One thing that trips me up at times is finding what is considered a player’s true rookie card. Some cards have 2 years like basketball (2016-2017) and others just one. For instance, I picked up a 2017 Revolution Pulisic Disco /25 and a 2018 Kylian Mbappe RWB Prizm. Unsure if these are considered second year cards or rookies? Love the cards either way, but appreciate any input. Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-19-2020, 10:59 PM	#225
avalanchefan21 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 845	There always seems to be confusion on which card is considered a rookie. They usually have stickers first which ppl overlook. Then Adrenalyn/match attax (which ppl miss since the are made for sale exclusively in limited countries. Team photo cards, these are missed since nobody really knows about them, and aren;t really considered official cards since they aren't made by a major manufacturer. Then of course there are the mainstream cards (ie: topps finest, panini prizm, etc) For example mbappe has cards in 2017-18 Panini Adrenalyn XL Foot Ligue 1. These were made in France and were released prior to the 2018 World cup, but if you look at card sales, his prizm rookies totally outweigh the adrenalyn cards https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROOKIE-SOCC...AAAOSwdd5dXCHa https://www.ebay.com/itm/PANINI-ROOK...UAAOSwUvldKLqb Wouldnt be shocked if they never catch the steam like the prizm cards do... but you never know