WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 890

Jedi1823 · 07-27-2016, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mma138

why isn't raw available for replay the next day on the network ?

Contract with NBC, they wouldn't be happy with WWE putting Raw up for replay the following day on the Network, and causing a dip in ratings because people would wait for Tuesday. They also run replays of the week's Raw on one of their channels.

Yaboi07 · 07-27-2016, 01:05 AM

does Ziggler turn heel? or ambrose?

Edit: bummed it didn't go to wyatt or Crews! love them both and with a great push Crews could be great!

CharlieHustle · 07-27-2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mma138

why isn't raw available for replay the next day on the network ?

The weird thing is that there is a 90 minute edited version available on Hulu Plus, the day after it airs, but it's not on the Network.
WWE puts so many clips on Youtube, though, that you could watch all the highlights and it would feel like you watched the whole show. All of the clips added up, come out to about 45 minutes, so really, you're not missing much.

GoJays · 07-27-2016, 02:16 AM

Haven't watched much wrestling in a while, but the draft and revamped shows have got me interested again. The main events of Summerslam (assuming Orton/Lesnar doesn't get top billing), along with the new shows, seem to signal a new direction for the company. The quality of the televised matches seems to have increased as well (although the battle royale tonight was full of missed spots).

I'm looking forward to shows focusing on in-ring competition again. Although, I'd prefer a voice other than JBL to lead these shows.

Great start to the new era. I hate having to wait five days for more wrestling, but I'm excited about RAW and Smack down for the first time in a while!

Jericho · 07-27-2016, 12:09 PM

I dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but does anyone else have a problem with Brock Lesnar not having to abide by the same wellness policy as the the other wrestlers? Reports are that since he is considered part time that he doesnt have to be tested or go by those rules like the other full time wrestlers. If true, that's complete BS and I'd be pissed if I was the other wrestlers.

ThaReal1 · 07-27-2016, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but does anyone else have a problem with Brock Lesnar not having to abide by the same wellness policy as the the other wrestlers? Reports are that since he is considered part time that he doesnt have to be tested or go by those rules like the other full time wrestlers. If true, that's complete BS and I'd be pissed if I was the other wrestlers.

F Lesnar. I hate how he's handled. He can be badass but the nothing but suplex in matches bores me now and anyone who faces him gets buried. Then he just leaves for months and cash checks. CM Punk was right when asking why he put over Lesnar. Who's gonna be showing up on Monday? I am, not him

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nera20 · 07-27-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaReal1

F Lesnar. I hate how he's handled. He can be badass but the nothing but suplex in matches bores me now and anyone who faces him gets buried. Then he just leaves for months and cash checks. CM Punk was right when asking why he put over Lesnar. Who's gonna be showing up on Monday? I am, not him

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Yep agree never cared for Lesnar his matches are boring and the same thing over and over, as much hate as Roman gets I find his matches more enjoyable then Lesnars

Jericho · 07-27-2016, 12:27 PM

Oh I agree with all of that man. I've never been a Lesnar fan, wasted the end of Undertaker's streak on him, and he seems uninterested in most of the matches he's in. Im hoping they let him walk after his contract expires. No need to pay him all that money for no reason. His matches are nothing special and only hurts when he beats someone and then disappears for months afterwards. Im hoping Orton wins at SummerSlam and they give him a decent push out of that

nera20 · 07-27-2016, 12:32 PM

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Oh I agree with all of that man. I've never been a Lesnar fan, wasted the end of Undertaker's streak on him, and he seems uninterested in most of the matches he's in. Im hoping they let him walk after his contract expires. No need to pay him all that money for no reason. His matches are nothing special and only hurts when he beats someone and then disappears for months afterwards. Im hoping Orton wins at SummerSlam and they give him a decent push out of that

The thing with the Undertaker I still think was a mistake, I have watched wrestling for over 30 years and I have a friend that knows the industry from the inside out and he claims that Taker was knocked out when he was Ffived, is it the truth not a 100 percent true, but I think it might be.

ThaReal1 · 07-27-2016, 12:41 PM

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The thing with the Undertaker I still think was a mistake, I have watched wrestling for over 30 years and I have a friend that knows the industry from the inside out and he claims that Taker was knocked out when he was Ffived, is it the truth not a 100 percent true, but I think it might be.

You wanna talk about an all time botch if that's true.... I will admit, one of the best things I've ever seen as far as crowd reaction

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byronscott4ever · 07-27-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

I dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but does anyone else have a problem with Brock Lesnar not having to abide by the same wellness policy as the the other wrestlers? Reports are that since he is considered part time that he doesnt have to be tested or go by those rules like the other full time wrestlers. If true, that's complete BS and I'd be pissed if I was the other wrestlers.

It seems like Lesnar's failed test is going to give WWE a lot more leverage if they want to re-sign him. Just a feeling that Lesnar going back to UFC was always a "threat" when he dealt with WWE so he was given whatever he wanted and now, that's not hanging out there as an option.

celtics · 07-27-2016, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaReal1

You wanna talk about an all time botch if that's true.... I will admit, one of the best things I've ever seen as far as crowd reaction

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It's not, I was there live and we all initially thought it was but right after it happened the 23-1 (or whatever the streak was at that time) Graphic instantly popped up on all of the screens.

Jericho · 07-27-2016, 01:36 PM

Im not even an Undertaker fan but I think he either should have stayed undefeated the entire run, Lost to someone who they wanted to make the new face of the promotion, or, and this may make people hate me.....I would have had Cena beat him. If Cena was champion and going against an Undefeated Taker at Mania it would have been huge. Title vs The Streak.

ernieren · 07-27-2016, 01:37 PM

Liked Smackdown but a little disappointed in the end of the Becky Lynch match . They did a good thing with the girls coming out looking to start something new . But they left it to just all the girls saying something then that was it. They should have come out and announced a new womans championship for smackdown .

CharlieHustle · 07-27-2016, 02:18 PM

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Liked Smackdown but a little disappointed in the end of the Becky Lynch match . They did a good thing with the girls coming out looking to start something new . But they left it to just all the girls saying something then that was it. They should have come out and announced a new womans championship for smackdown .

give it some time, they will. Just like Raw with the cruiserweights, Smackdown can't rollout all the new changes on night 1. If they introduced a new women's belt, it would have been overshadowed by the #1 contender's match and Dolph Ziggler. Right now they're showing the women in the division. Next, they introduce a couple of feuds, maybe even a tournament. Then they show what it is they're fighting for.
If I had to guess (and if there really are 2 PPV's a month) I would say that the women's belt situation is decided on the Smackdown branded PPV in September.

celtics · 07-27-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Im not even an Undertaker fan but I think he either should have stayed undefeated the entire run, Lost to someone who they wanted to make the new face of the promotion, or, and this may make people hate me.....I would have had Cena beat him. If Cena was champion and going against an Undefeated Taker at Mania it would have been huge. Title vs The Streak.

I think they did a great job of making Brock Lesnar into a main attraction A-Lister.

Newbs · 07-27-2016, 03:14 PM

I could be wrong but Lesnar does have to abide by the Wellness Policy as well, just he hasn't failed that test when he has taken it. I'm pretty sure anyone wrestler under contract has to abide by it.

SD should have some other titles coming I would thing, they only have 2 compared to the 4, possibly a 5th if they have a cruiserweight title on Raw. That is unless titles like the tag titles and women title is defended both sides, but it does not look like that is happening.

Newbs · 07-27-2016, 04:51 PM

NVM about the Lesnar statement I made above, just heard on a podcast that part timers are not under the Wellness Policy. Seems strange to me that is the case.

Jericho · 07-27-2016, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by celtics

I think they did a great job of making Brock Lesnar into a main attraction A-Lister.

Brock was already a main event type guy, he didnt need it. Plus If I remember right, he left after that for months so it was wasted

Newbs · 07-27-2016, 07:13 PM

We get Nakamura/Joe at Takeover, that should be a good one.

fazzle · 07-27-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbs

NVM about the Lesnar statement I made above, just heard on a podcast that part timers are not under the Wellness Policy. Seems strange to me that is the case.

If they were testing everyone that stepped into the ring, Rock would have never come back.

Brock just happens to also benefit from it.

ilovethelakings · 07-27-2016, 08:10 PM

All this talk about the Undertaker and Lesnar got me thinking about something I just watched yesterday. Thought it was interesting. Not true, but interesting for sure since Heyman is a hell of a storyteller. A bit NSFW due to a bit of language.

celtics · 07-27-2016, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Brock was already a main event type guy, he didnt need it. Plus If I remember right, he left after that for months so it was wasted

I disagree, Brock had lost to HHH the year before. He was a main event guy but so is say a Sheamus.

However there is a big difference between Brock and Sheamus and it all started that night. They followed up the Taker match with Brock destroying Cena at Summerslam and everyone that he has faced since then.

mma138 · 07-28-2016, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi1823

Contract with NBC, they wouldn't be happy with WWE putting Raw up for replay the following day on the Network, and causing a dip in ratings because people would wait for Tuesday. They also run replays of the week's Raw on one of their channels.

I gues I will just watch the replay Saturday if I am home .

Jedi1823 · 07-28-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Im not even an Undertaker fan but I think he either should have stayed undefeated the entire run, Lost to someone who they wanted to make the new face of the promotion, or, and this may make people hate me.....I would have had Cena beat him. If Cena was champion and going against an Undefeated Taker at Mania it would have been huge. Title vs The Streak.

Taker wouldn't have lost the streak if he wasn't fine with it, and the guy who ended it had to be cool with being that guy. So Taker chose Brock to end it, and Brock accepted. Taker had offered it to Orton and Kane, and both turned him down.

Brock was a good choice to end it. If you had a brand new guy end it, then it's always hanging above his head, if that guy falls on his face, you just wasted a huge moment on him. It had to be somebody proven, somebody who could take the pressure. You mentioned Cena, but the problem with Cena is that he would have been eaten alive by the fans. He may have turned it down, and Taker didn't want to face him at Mania unless Cena was ending the streak. Also, it's looking like he's getting ready to move away from being full time, and just become a special attraction.

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Newbs Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,884	I could be wrong but Lesnar does have to abide by the Wellness Policy as well, just he hasn't failed that test when he has taken it. I'm pretty sure anyone wrestler under contract has to abide by it. SD should have some other titles coming I would thing, they only have 2 compared to the 4, possibly a 5th if they have a cruiserweight title on Raw. That is unless titles like the tag titles and women title is defended both sides, but it does not look like that is happening. __________________ GPGMJT I collect 49ers, SF Giants, Nevada Alumni and Orlando Magic

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Newbs Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,884	NVM about the Lesnar statement I made above, just heard on a podcast that part timers are not under the Wellness Policy. Seems strange to me that is the case. __________________ GPGMJT I collect 49ers, SF Giants, Nevada Alumni and Orlando Magic

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ilovethelakings I make a lot of posts! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: One of the 9 Realms Posts: 18,871	All this talk about the Undertaker and Lesnar got me thinking about something I just watched yesterday. Thought it was interesting. Not true, but interesting for sure since Heyman is a hell of a storyteller. A bit NSFW due to a bit of language. __________________ Looking for A&G sized minis and Topps Olympic relics, pins, etc. for my daughter and refractors for my son Favorite teams: Kings, Angels, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, Celtics, Globetrotters Siempre Coca Cola

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Yaboi07 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 2,447 Don7885	does Ziggler turn heel? or ambrose? Edit: bummed it didn't go to wyatt or Crews! love them both and with a great push Crews could be great!

07-27-2016, 02:16 AM	#22229
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	Haven't watched much wrestling in a while, but the draft and revamped shows have got me interested again. The main events of Summerslam (assuming Orton/Lesnar doesn't get top billing), along with the new shows, seem to signal a new direction for the company. The quality of the televised matches seems to have increased as well (although the battle royale tonight was full of missed spots). I'm looking forward to shows focusing on in-ring competition again. Although, I'd prefer a voice other than JBL to lead these shows. Great start to the new era. I hate having to wait five days for more wrestling, but I'm excited about RAW and Smack down for the first time in a while!

07-27-2016, 12:09 PM	#22230
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	I dont know if this has been mentioned or not, but does anyone else have a problem with Brock Lesnar not having to abide by the same wellness policy as the the other wrestlers? Reports are that since he is considered part time that he doesnt have to be tested or go by those rules like the other full time wrestlers. If true, that's complete BS and I'd be pissed if I was the other wrestlers.

07-27-2016, 12:27 PM	#22233
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	Oh I agree with all of that man. I've never been a Lesnar fan, wasted the end of Undertaker's streak on him, and he seems uninterested in most of the matches he's in. Im hoping they let him walk after his contract expires. No need to pay him all that money for no reason. His matches are nothing special and only hurts when he beats someone and then disappears for months afterwards. Im hoping Orton wins at SummerSlam and they give him a decent push out of that

07-27-2016, 01:36 PM	#22238
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	Im not even an Undertaker fan but I think he either should have stayed undefeated the entire run, Lost to someone who they wanted to make the new face of the promotion, or, and this may make people hate me.....I would have had Cena beat him. If Cena was champion and going against an Undefeated Taker at Mania it would have been huge. Title vs The Streak.