2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by mike1498

https://libertystreeteconomics.newyo...0the%20tariffs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/this...get-worse.html

https://www.frbsf.org/economic-resea...es-with-china/

Some articles say otherwise

The CPI is wrong?

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

The CPI is wrong?

No CPI has increased.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by mike1498

No CPI has increased.

Sure, at a very normal rate.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Sure, at a very normal rate.

CPI can be misleading because the CPI is a predetermined group of items. I don't how much of what is in that "basket" is what is being taxed. If none of those items are in the "basket" (which I'm sure some are) then obviously it won't be able to show you the actual effect on items that have increased.

GDP has declined as a result of the trade war which should tell you that prices must have went up unless you are assuming that reduced spending is all because of expectations which I don't think it is.

CPI only accounts for how much change in price for consumers for a product. If the producer takes on most of the tax then I don't believe that is accounted for in the CPI. That being said I do not know the tax breakdown on how much is shared between the producer and consumer.

But in all fairness it seems to be hurting America's GDP more than inflation.

[trixstar]

I thought the CPI was junk when looking at the tariff war because of how many things it lists not actually subject to tariffs? If you look at the actual items subject to tariffs it’s definitely cost people money.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I would agree with this to a point, but i know a lot of people who've come to realize buying that less expensive product made in China is crippling our country and have started seeking out American made products even if they cost more.
There really needs to be a made in America awakening.
Granted, some will and most won't but even if it changes a little that's progress.

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I agree. I have been much more conscience of buying American over Chinese products (pretty sure I mentioned that a while ago in either this thread or the COVID thread). With that said, I do hand it to President Trump that his decision to have certain medications made here instead of China.

[TheHeel]

Donnie Dementia at it again. Guy can’t handle walking down a ramp. Can’t sip from a glass. Now he is just taking crazy pills.

Trump uses 'AIDS vaccine' as proof scientists can develop COVID-19 vaccine

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...velop-covid-19

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I thought the CPI was junk when looking at the tariff war because of how many things it lists not actually subject to tariffs? If you look at the actual items subject to tariffs it’s definitely cost people money.

But he promised the Chinese would pay for the tariffs...just like Mexico would pay for the border wall... Oh wait...

[Onions]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I agree. I have been much more conscience of buying American over Chinese products (pretty sure I mentioned that a while ago in either this thread or the COVID thread). With that said, I do hand it to President Trump that his decision to have certain medications made here instead of China.

Same here. I just bought my daughter a Stihl battery operated string trimmer for her lawn mowing jobs this summer. Cost me $100 over the similar Chinese made product. Felt great. She wanted the cheaper one, but I told her I would eat the additional $100 and she could just pay me back the cost of the Chinese one.

My only Chinese vice may be fireworks this year. Hard to avoid it in that case. Honestly, probably better off having them put those things together anyways.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Onions

Same here. I just bought my daughter a Stihl battery operated string trimmer for her lawn mowing jobs this summer. Cost me $100 over the similar Chinese made product. Felt great. She wanted the cheaper one, but I told her I would eat the additional $100 and she could just pay me back the cost of the Chinese one.



My only Chinese vice may be fireworks this year. Hard to avoid it in that case. Honestly, probably better off having them put those things together anyways.

Kudos to you.
It's not always an easy thing to do. When funds are limited it's even harder. I can't say I do it 100% of the time, but much more often the last couple years.

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[cking]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but if not...here it is.

New York has repealed 50-A.....Now a simple FOIA request and the press will have there hands on any cops file...and the ability to publish it for all to see as it is public record. Access to personal information, home address and stuff like that will be blacked out.

A step in the right direction and will pretty much put a stop to cops jumping from city to city if they get fired for disciplinary reasons.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...wye-story.html

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I agree. I have been much more conscience of buying American over Chinese products (pretty sure I mentioned that a while ago in either this thread or the COVID thread). With that said, I do hand it to President Trump that his decision to have certain medications made here instead of China.

Quit agreeing with me, I have a reputation to uphold.
: )

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[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Quit agreeing with me, I have a reputation to uphold.
: )

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[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by cking

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but if not...here it is.

New York has repealed 50-A.....Now a simple FOIA request and the press will have there hands on any cops file...and the ability to publish it for all to see as it is public record. Access to personal information, home address and stuff like that will be blacked out.

A step in the right direction and will pretty much put a stop to cops jumping from city to city if they get fired for disciplinary reasons.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...wye-story.html

Wonder if King Andrew will continue to rake in the police union campaign donations after this?

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

I don’t watch OANN but I’m curious what is the top conspiracy theory they have promoted?

Here's a couple of this month's whoppers, but they've been doing this for years now. This is news in the same way WWE is a competitive sport.

During the immediate unrest following the death of of George Floyd, OANN reporter Jack Posobiec claimed that there were pipe bombs planted at the Korean War Memorial in Washington D.C. with "federal assets in pursuit of those responsible". Both assertions were false.

More recently, OANN "journalist" Kristian Rouz claimed 75 year old protester Martin Gugino, who suffered a severe injury after hitting his head on the sidewalk "was attempting to capture the radio communications signature of Buffalo police officers". Additionally without evidence, OANN linked the injured man to the Antifa movement, which insanely, President Trump picked up on later so as to post a tweet alleging the Gugino "could be an ANTIFA provocateur". Rouz' source for this nonsense was The Conservative Treehouse, a right-wing blog.

OANN therefore has zero value as news, but as for the people saying FoxNews, CNN, etc., don't either, that isn't exactly true. Their actual news reports contain useful verified information that was acquired via their vast resources, and vetted thoroughly, precisely because all they stand to lose by presenting unverified information as genuine news.

Where they go awry is with the commentary/discussion portions of the telecasts that follow the delivery of the hard news. Here's is where the bias sets in as a result of the partisanship of the hosts and invited guests engaged in that discussion, that makeup determined by the network. Most hour-long shows on the 24 hour news networks do contain about 15 minutes worth of reliable, objective information. The problem is that there are a great many people watching who can't tell the difference between an op-ed commentary and journalistic endeavors, and that is seized on by the network executives to advance their own agendas.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Here's a couple of this month's whoppers, but they've been doing this for years now. This is news in the same way WWE is a competitive sport.

During the immediate unrest following the death of of George Floyd, OANN reporter Jack Posobiec claimed that there were pipe bombs planted at the Korean War Memorial in Washington D.C. with "federal assets in pursuit of those responsible". Both assertions were false.

More recently, OANN "journalist" Kristian Rouz claimed 75 year old protester Martin Gugino, who suffered a severe injury after hitting his head on the sidewalk "was attempting to capture the radio communications signature of Buffalo police officers". Additionally without evidence, OANN linked the injured man to the Antifa movement, which insanely, President Trump picked up on later so as to post a tweet alleging the Gugino "could be an ANTIFA provocateur". Rouz' source for this nonsense was The Conservative Treehouse, a right-wing blog.

OANN therefore has zero value as news, but as for the people saying FoxNews, CNN, etc., don't either, that isn't exactly true. Their actual news reports contain useful verified information that was acquired via their vast resources, and vetted thoroughly, precisely because all they stand to lose by presenting unverified information as genuine news.

Where they go awry is with the commentary/discussion portions of the telecasts that follow the delivery of the hard news. Here's is where the bias sets in as a result of the partisanship of the hosts and invited guests engaged in that discussion, that makeup determined by the network. Most hour-long shows on the 24 hour news networks do contain about 15 minutes worth of reliable, objective information. The problem is that there are a great many people watching who can't tell the difference between an op-ed commentary and journalistic endeavors, and that is seized on by the network executives to advance their own agendas.

That's it? I know networks that promoted a false Russian collusion story for YEARS. Even when their guests knew the accusations were incorrect. Thousands of hours of false coverage in an attempt to take down a President. OANN better have something worse than that. Never heard of the network, never seen a show, but I bet they are more reliably accurate than most network and cable news. It wouldn't take much.

I stopped and picked up some Domino's for the family tonight.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Onions

That's it? I know networks that promoted a false Russian collusion story for YEARS. Even when their guests knew the accusations were incorrect. Thousands of hours of false coverage in an attempt to take down a President. OANN better have something worse than that. Never heard of the network, never seen a show, but I bet they are more reliably accurate than most network and cable news. It wouldn't take much.

I stopped and picked up some Domino's for the family tonight.

Just because you didn't like what was being reported doesn't mean that reporting was false, let alone promoting anything.

Enjoy your Pizza Hut food.

Originally Posted by persona

What happened to all the memes? This thread used to be 25%+ of extra large memes.

The main perpetrator of the oversized memes has left the building, but here's where he got most of his doozies:

https://qmap.pub/

Enjoy!

[rman112]

Back to Gugino, huh? His twitter is private now, btw.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by Onions

That's it? I know networks that promoted a false Russian collusion story for YEARS. Even when their guests knew the accusations were incorrect. Thousands of hours of false coverage in an attempt to take down a President. OANN better have something worse than that. Never heard of the network, never seen a show, but I bet they are more reliably accurate than most network and cable news. It wouldn't take much.

I stopped and picked up some Domino's for the family tonight.

Guys like Brennan went on CNN and pushed the Russian collusion narrative, then under oath admitted they had seen no evidence of Russian collusion in the Trump Administration.

You’d think that CNN would be mad that these fools duped them, but what do they do? They hire them!!! CNN is garbage, they stopped being journalists long ago.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Here's a couple of this month's whoppers, but they've been doing this for years now. This is news in the same way WWE is a competitive sport.

During the immediate unrest following the death of of George Floyd, OANN reporter Jack Posobiec claimed that there were pipe bombs planted at the Korean War Memorial in Washington D.C. with "federal assets in pursuit of those responsible". Both assertions were false.

More recently, OANN "journalist" Kristian Rouz claimed 75 year old protester Martin Gugino, who suffered a severe injury after hitting his head on the sidewalk "was attempting to capture the radio communications signature of Buffalo police officers". Additionally without evidence, OANN linked the injured man to the Antifa movement, which insanely, President Trump picked up on later so as to post a tweet alleging the Gugino "could be an ANTIFA provocateur". Rouz' source for this nonsense was The Conservative Treehouse, a right-wing blog.

OANN therefore has zero value as news, but as for the people saying FoxNews, CNN, etc., don't either, that isn't exactly true. Their actual news reports contain useful verified information that was acquired via their vast resources, and vetted thoroughly, precisely because all they stand to lose by presenting unverified information as genuine news.

Where they go awry is with the commentary/discussion portions of the telecasts that follow the delivery of the hard news. Here's is where the bias sets in as a result of the partisanship of the hosts and invited guests engaged in that discussion, that makeup determined by the network. Most hour-long shows on the 24 hour news networks do contain about 15 minutes worth of reliable, objective information. The problem is that there are a great many people watching who can't tell the difference between an op-ed commentary and journalistic endeavors, and that is seized on by the network executives to advance their own agendas.

Dude you are nuts. Carry on will check back in another week.

[DegaBama]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...ases-surge.amp

This is how you approach it. Protect the vulnerable. That's it.

It's crazy to see just how many Americans cannot make decisions for themselves. If you're afraid, then stay home. It's not hard.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...ases-surge.amp

This is how you approach it. Protect the vulnerable. That's it.

It's crazy to see just how many Americans cannot make decisions for themselves. If you're afraid, then stay home. It's not hard.

I agree with this. But I’m also entirely unwilling to listen to anything about “recklessness” from the Democrats after celebrating mass protests for the past 2-3 weeks. Lockdowns are off the table. I saw a video of a Jewish community in New York cutting off a padlock with bolt cutters to obtain park access. Good for them. Enough of this. And I was very pro lockdown/public safety for the first couple months. I was wrong... got duped by the Democrats that pretended to care.

Edit: here’s the thing for me... if protests are okay, then everything is okay. What happens if more protests happen in a month and cases spike? Does everyone else just sit at home and hope that people decide to stop protesting (for any cause)? Once public safety was no longer top priority, then mandating any sort of social distancing or lockdowns was off the table for me. Politicians can’t be encouraging protests that go against everything they’ve said regarding public safety and then keep tacking on weeks/months to lockdowns. It doesn’t work that way. We’re either doing this or we’re not... we’re not? Ok. Let’s move on then.

[Boo]

South Korea vs North Korea
India vs China
USA vs USA

Seems right

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Boo

South Korea vs North Korea
India vs China
USA vs USA

Seems right

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Boo

South Korea vs North Korea
India vs China
USA vs USA

Seems right

It sucks that this is true. I’m hoping the news starts to shine more light on positive police/civilian and white/black/(other races) interactions. I’m hoping we can get this thing back on track, one positive interaction at a time. But my head tells me I’m being naive, especially in an election year. Nothing is off limits for politicians when it comes to winning an election. And there are so many hardcore right/left wingers that thrive on the negativity.

Edit: I don’t pay nearly as much attention to Trump (or Biden) as many others in this thread, but I do think Trump could do a better job of not being such a bloviating douche. Sometimes he says and does some positive things that we should all be on board with, but is very WWE about it and the content of the message gets washed away by the poor delivery. I don’t have any examples off the top of my head, but he seems to lack awareness when he speaks. He’s obviously intelligent, so I can’t tell if his upbringing is the reason for this or if he’s just subtly trolling 24/7.