HOF PC Collectors Thread

[Dickey SuperFan]

Hey everyone - wanted an opinion - as of today, there are 114 different HOFers with on-card autos, which I'm close to finishing up with a few tough ones. I imagine it will go to 115 once someone puts Schuerholz in a set. One thing I realized is that Leo Durocher was in the '16 Archives Signature set, which are technically on-card autos. I imagine he was 1/1 only though - did anyone see any of his cards? And would you consider him added to the pool of on-card autos? Or because it was a weird anomaly like that set, you'd keep him off? Thanks for any opinions!

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by whyconform

I have to vent out to people who appreciate it, cuz I'm so excited....

Picked up a Cap Anson autograph.......Def the most expensive in the collection. He completes my 3,000 hit club.....

Also got James Naismith (inventor of basketball), as I'm trying to do NBA too....kind of thought I would have been outbid on Anson......so there goes any major pickups for the rest of the year....will hurt to write the check today...but excited nonetheless....


I think I'm now at 245...and aside from new inductees, it might have been a year or so since I got a new player...........and still holding out for a decent Schuerholz....

Pics to follow of course when I get it..

That is awesome! Congrats! Though, I must admit when I read you were venting I was anticipating a poor end to the story. Can't wait to see it!

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Dickey SuperFan

Hey everyone - wanted an opinion - as of today, there are 114 different HOFers with on-card autos, which I'm close to finishing up with a few tough ones. I imagine it will go to 115 once someone puts Schuerholz in a set. One thing I realized is that Leo Durocher was in the '16 Archives Signature set, which are technically on-card autos. I imagine he was 1/1 only though - did anyone see any of his cards? And would you consider him added to the pool of on-card autos? Or because it was a weird anomaly like that set, you'd keep him off? Thanks for any opinions!

I assume you mean pack pulled on card. There are a lot more than 114 cards of HOFers with autos on them. The 2016 Durocher definitely wouldn't be "on card" as it would be a cut. But nuthin' wrong with cuts.

[Dickey SuperFan]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

I assume you mean pack pulled on card. There are a lot more than 114 cards of HOFers with autos on them. The 2016 Durocher definitely wouldn't be "on card" as it would be a cut. But nuthin' wrong with cuts.

What I meant is that they held the card in their hand to sign it, which I first brought up in this thread:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...ard-autos.html

It's the 108 from this thread plus Piazza, Griffey, Bagwell, Raines, Pudge, and Selig = 114. The 2016 Archives Signature wound up pulling some cards from some deceased players that they signed (so on-card and in person) during the living years.

For example, here's Earl Weaver (2016 card - died 2013) -

2016 Topps Archives Signature EARL WEAVER Auto 1/1 ORIOLES 1987 ONLY ONE IN '16 | eBay

so they 'found' cards these guys had signed - I was saying would you consider Durocher in this list, in which case if there's only ONE 1/1, it would be quite difficult to meet that criteria. Beckett lists it as 'on card' under that premise, but it's difficult for me to consider it as such.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Dickey SuperFan

What I meant is that they held the card in their hand to sign it, which I first brought up in this thread:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...ard-autos.html

It's the 108 from this thread plus Piazza, Griffey, Bagwell, Raines, Pudge, and Selig = 114. The 2016 Archives Signature wound up pulling some cards from some deceased players that they signed (so on-card and in person) during the living years.

For example, here's Earl Weaver (2016 card - died 2013) -

2016 Topps Archives Signature EARL WEAVER Auto 1/1 ORIOLES 1987 ONLY ONE IN '16 | eBay

so they 'found' cards these guys had signed - I was saying would you consider Durocher in this list, in which case if there's only ONE 1/1, it would be quite difficult to meet that criteria. Beckett lists it as 'on card' under that premise, but it's difficult for me to consider it as such.

Yeah. There are a lot of potential "buyback" autos like that. That's what makes it tough. For example, here's a Richie Ashburn on card auto I own. There are 61 different Richie Ashburn autos you can pull in various packs over the years and they are all cut autos. But if I sold this one to Topps and they packed it out it would be an on card auto. I imagine there's an on card auto of a bunch of HOFers that have never been packed out.

Also, I checked that thread and remember it. Sorry I never saw your question about a good on card Brett auto. My favorite in my collection is a Diamond Kings Recollection Collection buyback of his 1982 DK card but it's 1/1. If I didn't have that one, the definitive on card, pack pulled auto of Brett that is attainable (albeit SPed) would be his Fleer Greats of the Game auto.

[jmscoggin]

ROGER CONNOR

Roger Connor
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 1976
Primary team: New York Giants
Primary position: 1st Baseman

Connor, Roger | Baseball Hall of Fame

Example (good luck);



ANDY COOPER

Andrew Lewis Cooper
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 2006
Primary team: Kansas City Monarchs
Primary position: Pitcher

Cooper, Andy | Baseball Hall of Fame

Example (Lol, so rare that I couldn't even find a verified example. Skip?)

[Dickey SuperFan]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Yeah. There are a lot of potential "buyback" autos like that. That's what makes it tough. For example, here's a Richie Ashburn on card auto I own. There are 61 different Richie Ashburn autos you can pull in various packs over the years and they are all cut autos. But if I sold this one to Topps and they packed it out it would be an on card auto. I imagine there's an on card auto of a bunch of HOFers that have never been packed out.

Also, I checked that thread and remember it. Sorry I never saw your question about a good on card Brett auto. My favorite in my collection is a Diamond Kings Recollection Collection buyback of his 1982 DK card but it's 1/1. If I didn't have that one, the definitive on card, pack pulled auto of Brett that is attainable (albeit SPed) would be his Fleer Greats of the Game auto.

Thank you Skip. I'm not going to consider it true then as it's not a manufactured mass-produced auto. So, my number stands at 114 for on-card. I'm at 110 - hope to show it in the thread before too long.

I picked up the Finest Moments Brett auto a while back - after finding one with a nice bold auto (I know a bunch are streaky and faded)...

[jmscoggin]

Between my sabbatical and the recent wave of impossibles and near impossibles, things have slowed way down here. Today's HOF'er should make it easier for a lot more people to play.

STAN COVELESKI

Stanley Anthony Coveleski
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 1969
Primary team: Cleveland Indians
Primary position: Pitcher

Coveleski, Stan | Baseball Hall of Fame

Mine;

[Mstepper]

hey I can play!

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

ANDY COOPER

Andrew Lewis Cooper
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 2006
Primary team: Kansas City Monarchs
Primary position: Pitcher

Cooper, Andy | Baseball Hall of Fame

Example (Lol, so rare that I couldn't even find a verified example. Skip?)

Yeah, Cooper is on my impossibles list. But here's an example...

[whyconform]

1969 GPC

Coveleski, Stan GPC 1969 by BaseballHOFAutographs, on Flickr

[jmscoggin]

BOBBY COX

Robert Joseph Cox
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 2014
Primary team: Atlanta Braves
Primary position: Manager

Cox, Bobby | Baseball Hall of Fame

Mine;

[Mstepper]

my favoritist manager ever.

[Skipscards]

Here's mine...

[begsu1013]

[whyconform]

Cox, Bobby by BaseballHOFAutographs, on Flickr

[whyconform]

Originally Posted by Dickey SuperFan

Hey everyone - wanted an opinion - as of today, there are 114 different HOFers with on-card autos, which I'm close to finishing up with a few tough ones. I imagine it will go to 115 once someone puts Schuerholz in a set. One thing I realized is that Leo Durocher was in the '16 Archives Signature set, which are technically on-card autos. I imagine he was 1/1 only though - did anyone see any of his cards? And would you consider him added to the pool of on-card autos? Or because it was a weird anomaly like that set, you'd keep him off? Thanks for any opinions!

Interesting....Durocher=Dead long time. But if it is at 114, I wonder who I'm missing......... I have been trying to get modern on cards along with the vintage stuff for the older guys.....all on card for newer guys.....

[Coug46n2]

Here is my Coveleski.

[jmscoggin]

SAM CRAWFORD

Samuel Earl Crawford
Inducted to the Hall of Fame in: 1957
Primary team: Detroit Tigers
Primary position: Right Fielder

Crawford, Sam | Baseball Hall of Fame

Example;

[Moyni]

I need to catch up a little







Whew! I feel better now.

[forgerelli]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Yeah, Cooper is on my impossibles list. But here's an example...

I'm fascinated with old Negro League relics and I have several books on the subject but how could they possible know that's a real signature?

Scott F

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by forgerelli

I'm fascinated with old Negro League relics and I have several books on the subject but how could they possible know that's a real signature?

Scott F

Exactly this. I came across three supposedly real examples and not one looked remotely like another.

[forgerelli]

To me that looks more like someone identifying the person in the photograph, not an actual signature. I'd need to see a signed document for comparison.

Some of these old Negro League players are almost mythological. Barely any photos of them exist, nevermind autographs. Maybe some team signed sheets or hotel registries are out there.

Scott F

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by forgerelli

I'm fascinated with old Negro League relics and I have several books on the subject but how could they possible know that's a real signature?

Scott F

Provenance. Often the only way to get a signature certified as genuine when there are no comparables is the provenance. Some auction houses are more reputable than others and won't auction an item off without certainty in the provenance.

This particular example was auctioned off by Christie's last year which is probably the most reputable auction house in the world. They wouldn't waste time selling a questionable $5k item.

[HOFAutoRookies]

Sorry, it's been crazy busy for me and I'm waaaaay behind.

I hope this makes up for it . I'll post my others soon.