**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!** - Page 85

psd2k10 · 04-19-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Sure. But it’s pretty well accepted that pink and purple refractors just don’t sell as well as other colors. Has nothing to do with my personal taste. These cards were significantly harder to pull than base Soto’s and barely sell for double for a PSA 10. Now, maybe they get hot and widen the gap, which they could, or people just don’t like pink.

that’s actually a very valid point. I just think the pink soto is the card that will change some of that perception.

JoeAdam · 04-19-2020, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by psd2k10

that’s actually a very valid point. I just think the pink soto is the card that will change some of that perception.

I agree, it is a very nice looking card. Full disclosure, I just sold a PSA 10 and BGS 10 pink Soto to fund a basketball purchase. I think all the Soto refractors are underpriced. These pinks were tough pulls and should be more than double a base. The refractor/250 last sold for $1,000. That’s barely more than 6x the base version for a numbered card that looks great.

lauriontj · 04-19-2020, 04:58 PM

I love the pink on the Soto card. His uniform, the shininess, it all looks great together..

BAHoopla · 04-19-2020, 05:21 PM

I Think the pink chrome refractors especially for 2018 are super nice. Way better looking than the green

psd2k10 · 04-19-2020, 05:26 PM

For me, one of the best things about the soto and the rest of the ‘18 tcu set is that the cards were made in thicker better quality stock. It was the only year they were made this way. I haven’t seen that many people go out of their way to make that point. I think this is one of the many reasons why these cards stand out so much.

pewe · 04-19-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by psd2k10

big mistake but to each his own.

You figure the base TU/TCU is the best card to own? And using their sale to finance another Soto would be a bad trade???

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pewe · 04-19-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Sure. But it’s pretty well accepted that pink and purple refractors just don’t sell as well as other colors. Has nothing to do with my personal taste. These cards were significantly harder to pull than base Soto’s and barely sell for double for a PSA 10. Now, maybe they get hot and widen the gap, which they could, or people just don’t like pink.

Purple refractor being the Heritage chrome purple? I think the heritage somehow is lagging just in general

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psd2k10 · 04-19-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

You figure the base TU/TCU is the best card to own? And using their sale to finance another Soto would be a bad trade???

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Yes, the best BASE SOTO card to own! do you disagree??? ...selling to finance another trade is that person’s prerogative. all im saying is if you can get that other high end soto card without having to use these base cards to finance it, that would be the better option. if that’s not an option then by all means.

JoeAdam · 04-19-2020, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by psd2k10

Yes, the best BASE SOTO card to own! do you disagree??? ...selling to finance another trade is that person’s prerogative. all im saying is if you can get that other high end soto card without having to use these base cards to finance it, that would be the better option. if that’s not an option then by all means.

I’d rather have quality over quantity. To each their own tho. I’ve sold some Soto stuff only because I had too much for comfort and wanted to spread out my collection a bit.

pewe · 04-19-2020, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by psd2k10

Yes, the best BASE SOTO card to own! do you disagree??? ...selling to finance another trade is that person’s prerogative. all im saying is if you can get that other high end soto card without having to use these base cards to finance it, that would be the better option. if that’s not an option then by all means.

I’m not sure I have an authoritative answer... but it is true I personally generally eschew base cards for numbered SP or SSP parallels as a hedge against market fluctuations. I guess that, though, probably implies they have lower beta, and thus lower upside (but also lower downside).

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BAHoopla · 04-19-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Purple refractor being the Heritage chrome purple? I think the heritage somehow is lagging just in general

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Thinks Series 1 purple numbered to 299 is what was meant

Zauron · 04-19-2020, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I agree, it is a very nice looking card. Full disclosure, I just sold a PSA 10 and BGS 10 pink Soto to fund a basketball purchase. I think all the Soto refractors are underpriced. These pinks were tough pulls and should be more than double a base. The refractor/250 last sold for $1,000. That’s barely more than 6x the base version for a numbered card that looks great.

The Chrome Update parallels are so low compared to the regular update. I know the regular update is more condition sensitive, but pinks and refractors weren't exactly easy to pull.

This market is so crazy, its fluctuating so fast and hard. Literally a weak ago, maybe longer, you could have PSA 10 Update's and chrome update's for $90-$100. Now they are pulling just about $150.

Mattsurewood · 04-20-2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

The Chrome Update parallels are so low compared to the regular update. I know the regular update is more condition sensitive, but pinks and refractors weren't exactly easy to pull.

This market is so crazy, its fluctuating so fast and hard. Literally a weak ago, maybe longer, you could have PSA 10 Update's and chrome update's for $90-$100. Now they are pulling just about $150.

Yes it's nuts--Base US300's getting $25-30 all night last night on eBay..

Sportnut08 · 04-20-2020, 08:27 AM

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Yes it's nuts--Base US300's getting $25-30 all night last night on eBay..

I sold a lot of 10 US300 base for $350 last week.

Mattsurewood · 04-20-2020, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportnut08

I sold a lot of 10 US300 base for $350 last week.

Very nice.

JoeAdam · 04-20-2020, 08:37 AM

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I sold a lot of 10 US300 base for $350 last week.

Wow! Great sale.

BBases31 · 04-20-2020, 01:32 PM

For the same price, what's the better long term hold: 4 Chrome Updates or one 2018 Bowman's Best Auto?

pewe · 04-20-2020, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

For the same price, what's the better long term hold: 4 Chrome Updates or one 2018 Bowman's Best Auto?

I can't wait to hear folks take on this... as I made a similar choice.

BTW those Best autos are pretty! You should get one, anyway

SaltyCracker · 04-20-2020, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

For the same price, what's the better long term hold: 4 Chrome Updates or one 2018 Bowman's Best Auto?

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Originally Posted by pewe

I can't wait to hear folks take on this... as I made a similar choice.

BTW those Best autos are pretty! You should get one, anyway

The same can be applied for Soto.

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Originally Posted by BBases31

I think a season is quite likely. In that case, it's best to hold until they at least announce a season will be happening. Sell before the season starts to avoid a drop due to underwhelming performance

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I like this suggestion... most energy into buying will happen when people start watching "spring training" again, but selling before season is a good hedge, as probably more downside risk than upside room with on-field performance.

ThoseBackPages · 04-20-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

For the same price, what's the better long term hold: 4 Chrome Updates or one 2018 Bowman's Best Auto?

id go with the RC

SonofaPitch · 04-20-2020, 01:42 PM

Hey if there is anyone in this chat looking to sell or knows someone who is looking to sell a:

2016 Bowman Chrome Juan Soto Blue Refractor Auto either Raw (and in good shape) or PSA/ Beckett 9

PM Me!

BBases31 · 04-20-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

The same can be applied for Soto.

Acuna's downside risk is much greater than Soto. Only one of the two regressed at the plate last year and that one happens to be the guy with much higher expectations

SaltyCracker · 04-20-2020, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

Acuna's downside risk is much greater than Soto. Only one of the two regressed at the plate last year and that one happens to be the guy with much higher expectations

All-star, top 5 mvp, silver slugger, 5.7 war and just missing 40/40 is one hell of a regression.

I collect Soto, but he didn’t do any of that. Hopefully he’ll get there one day!

BBases31 · 04-20-2020, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

BTW those Best autos are pretty! You should get one, anyway

I've spent so much on cards that at this point that I decided not to add anything for buy and hold purposes without moving some of what I've got. I have some pricey some stuff I'm dying unload but I need to grade first otherwise I'm leaving too much on the table(a couple vlad golds, acuna sp, etc). It's a complicated dance. I've probably doubled my money on my huge Ohtani stash but I'm reluctant unload much of him until we get a taste of him on the field this season.

lauriontj · 04-20-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

I've spent so much on cards that at this point that I decided not to add anything for buy and hold purposes without moving some of what I've got. I have some pricey some stuff I'm dying unload but I need to grade first otherwise I'm leaving too much on the table(a couple vlad golds, acuna sp, etc). It's a complicated dance. I've probably doubled my money on my huge Ohtani stash but I'm reluctant unload much of him until we get a taste of him on the field this season.

If you have any pretty soto cards that you’re looking to move, let me know! I’m looking to buy something pretty!

04-19-2020, 04:58 PM	#2103
lauriontj Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: PA Posts: 6,293	I love the pink on the Soto card. His uniform, the shininess, it all looks great together.. __________________ Insta: tjssportscards24 PC: Griffey/Soto and like the Washington Nationals! My dad taught me to hate the Yankees. Now that I’m an adult, I realize I was raised correctly.

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BAHoopla Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: The Moon Posts: 2,957	I Think the pink chrome refractors especially for 2018 are super nice. Way better looking than the green

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psd2k10 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,457	For me, one of the best things about the soto and the rest of the ‘18 tcu set is that the cards were made in thicker better quality stock. It was the only year they were made this way. I haven’t seen that many people go out of their way to make that point. I think this is one of the many reasons why these cards stand out so much.

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BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	For the same price, what's the better long term hold: 4 Chrome Updates or one 2018 Bowman's Best Auto?

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SonofaPitch Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 81	Hey if there is anyone in this chat looking to sell or knows someone who is looking to sell a: 2016 Bowman Chrome Juan Soto Blue Refractor Auto either Raw (and in good shape) or PSA/ Beckett 9 PM Me!