2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[GoTribe!!!]

[QUOTE=jdandns;16036158]While Biden would destroy Trump in any debate in any forum, I've seen enough of this farce of a President to last a lifetime. I/QUOTE]

Based on what? This is ridiculous even for you, come on.

[LRV]

No more Daisy Duke??

https://variety.com/2020/digital/new...ag-1234632843/

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I tried, the majority of the posters in here really don't care to discuss issues in a genuine light, so I just started giving the same level of deference in return.

I’m here to give my half-informed opinions and discuss some sh*t. Was told I showed up too late to the party and to read the thread when I said this same thing the other day.

My experience has been that there’s a lot of nonsense back and forth, but the left leaning folks around here just wanna talk about Trump all day and demand commentary on everything he says and does. I have no real interest in discussing Trump, or Biden, or any individual. I’m not here to fanboy for anyone or go in circles with political mudslinging. I’d rather discuss ideas. I’ve shared some ideas, opinions, personal experiences, and personal observations. The only real feedback I get seems to be from people who more or less have the same ideas and opinions that I do.

I tell you what... next time this thread heats up with something worthwhile, let’s both put aside the “this thread sux” mindset and just share our thoughts. I don’t care who agrees, disagrees, or thinks I’m full blown retarded. If I can share what I have to offer and someone else takes something positive from it, great. I’m mostly here to learn, not hammer home my beliefs. I’ve found that just having a dialogue can accidentally lead to some pretty eye opening stuff. Frenzy posts a history lesson. I’ve seen a couple solid YouTube discussions on the BLM movement and black community in general. Calculusdork messaged me a lengthy read on Critical Theory that I’m chipping away at. There’s a lot of good stuff in here.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I’m here to give my half-informed opinions and discuss some sh*t. Was told I showed up too late to the party and to read the thread when I said this same thing the other day.

My experience has been that there’s a lot of nonsense back and forth, but the left leaning folks around here just wanna talk about Trump all day and demand commentary on everything he says and does. I have no real interest in discussing Trump, or Biden, or any individual. I’m not here to fanboy for anyone or go in circles with political mudslinging. I’d rather discuss ideas. I’ve shared some ideas, opinions, personal experiences, and personal observations. The only real feedback I get seems to be from people who more or less have the same ideas and opinions that I do.

I tell you what... next time this thread heats up with something worthwhile, let’s both put aside the “this thread sux” mindset and just share our thoughts. I don’t care who agrees, disagrees, or thinks I’m full blown retarded. If I can share what I have to offer and someone else takes something positive from it, great. I’m mostly here to learn, not hammer home my beliefs. I’ve found that just having a dialogue can accidentally lead to some pretty eye opening stuff. Frenzy posts a history lesson. I’ve seen a couple solid YouTube discussions on the BLM movement and black community in general. Calculusdork messaged me a lengthy read on Critical Theory that I’m chipping away at. There’s a lot of good stuff in here.

I'll buy you a copy of "The War on Normal People" if you think you'd have any interest in reading it.

[jk1937]

University of Texas next on the list

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=...ypeahead_click

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rman112

It's actually a really good idea.

As long as the event coordinators are taking necessary precautions, then it's not their fault if you get sick.

It gives people the choice.. which is what so many of us have complained about. The choices have disappeared. If you want to go and take the risk, go for it.

I'd be fine if other other businesses/gatherings did the same. And if it meant places could open up sooner than later, I'd be even more for it.

"Necessary precautions"?

And what would those be?

Considering Trump just moved the GOP convention to Jacksonville, FL because the North Carolina governor would not guarantee that attendees there would neither have to wear masks nor social distance, it's hard to imagine anything similar would be asked of the Tulsa rally attendees, particularly since the person those rally goers are intending to pray to in person has deemed those things unnecessary for himself. By the way, Tulsa is currently, as of today, recording their highest daily number of new Covid cases in the outbreak thus far.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I'll buy you a copy of "The War on Normal People" if you think you'd have any interest in reading it.

I appreciate the offer. Just bought it on Apple Books. It’s in the queue after I finish what calculusdork sent me.

[imbluestreak23]

RIP ESPN

White people don't like tuning in to hear how evil they are and how racist we have been every day.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/e...ds-takes-over/

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

"Necessary precautions"?

And what would those be?

Considering Trump just moved the GOP convention to Jacksonville, FL because the North Carolina governor would not guarantee that attendees there would neither have to wear masks nor social distance, it's hard to imagine anything similar would be asked of the Tulsa rally attendees, particularly since the person those rally goers are intending to pray to in person has deemed those things unnecessary for himself. By the way, Tulsa is currently, as of today, recording their highest daily number of new Covid cases in the outbreak thus far.

Make sure everything's clean beforehand. Not sure what else you could want.

Having strict guidelines for people themselves died with the protests.

They're giving people the choice to do what they want. What's the issue (besides that it's Trump)?

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

RIP ESPN

White people don't like tuning in to hear how evil they are and how racist we have been every day.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/e...ds-takes-over/

It is a garbage channel. I miss when it was about sports.

ESPN and CNN both use to be decent. RIP.

[ilovethelakings]

I better watch C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America on Hulu before Cancel Culture gets to that as well.

[discostu]

ESPN is weak, but to claim that the recent viewership numbers can be attributed to "woke"
or left-leaning content is moronic.

This is a channel that lives on sports...and we've been without most sports for three months.

It's a cute, heavily slanted article about viewership written by someone with a clear agenda...but the recent collapse can far more easily be attributed to the void of sports, than political "wokeness."

But have at it.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

RIP ESPN

White people don't like tuning in to hear how evil they are and how racist we have been every day.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/e...ds-takes-over/

Maybe they should try focusing on sports. There are half a dozen cable news networks I can tune in to for my daily dose of white guilt. Just keep airing cornhole tournaments.

[preakness]

Originally Posted by LRV

No more Daisy Duke??

https://variety.com/2020/digital/new...ag-1234632843/

I need my Dukes of Hazard

I usually watch that after I watch Hart 2 Hart and Three's Company, Too

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by preakness

I need my Dukes of Hazard

I usually watch that after I watch Hart 2 Hart and Three's Company, Too

Trapped in time - I enjoy Simon and Simon myself. Always wanted Gerald McRaney's Power Wagon.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by discostu

ESPN is weak, but to claim that the recent viewership numbers can be attributed to "woke"
or left-leaning content is moronic.

This is a channel that lives on sports...and we've been without most sports for three months.

It's a cute, heavily slanted article about viewership written by someone with a clear agenda...but the recent collapse can far more easily be attributed to the void of sports, than political "wokeness."

But have at it.

I'd actually have to argue this. The article clearly has an agenda but I agree with you that sports are missed more than ever. That being said, don't you think if they had reruns of the giants vs patriots SB that they would have all time viewership right now? Instead I have to watch garbage like Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discussing current events right now. They sucked talking about sports and they seem to have an even lower bar for politics.

[jdandns]

[QUOTE=GoTribe!!!;16036691]

Originally Posted by jdandns

While Biden would destroy Trump in any debate in any forum, I've seen enough of this farce of a President to last a lifetime. I/QUOTE]

Based on what? This is ridiculous even for you, come on.

Biden won his VP debates, and Trump lost his presidential debates.
It ain't too hard to figure using that info. I mean, the heavy underdog always has the slugger's chance, I guess, but this is a clearly deteriorated Trump who didn't have much to begin with. Biden's forgotten more than Trump ever knew, and Joe is still much sharper than Don. Don't listen to them speak, though. Read the actual text of what they say when not on prompter. Joe makes bonehead gaffes from time to time, sure, but he always did, and he's balanced it out with decades of efficacious governance in the public service. Trump can't even form sentences anymore. Yikes!

Originally Posted by ilovethelakings

I better watch C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America on Hulu before Cancel Culture gets to that as well.

They called me crazy, but this is why I told everyone to save their VHS tapes of their favorite programs.
I'm watching "Blazing Saddles" and "Gone With The Wind" at the same time.

Originally Posted by rman112

Make sure everything's clean beforehand. Not sure what else you could want.

Having strict guidelines for people themselves died with the protests.

They're giving people the choice to do what they want. What's the issue (besides that it's Trump)?

The tacit admission via the disclaimer that this virus thing is very real, could hurt you (or those you later come into contact with) badly, and that you are totally on your own if it does, but come anyway to bow down to this puffed up cult of personality.
Free MAGA vuvuzelas for the first 19,000, too!

I would be similarly disappointed if Biden held this same event, but if he trotted it out where cases are quickly rising and there's not exactly an abundance of hospitals (like Oklahoma), I would excoriate him for it.

[trixstar]

lol I mean what’s going on in Seattle is news enough. Why stoop to these levels ?

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...mpression=true

[rman112]

No sh*t it's real.

No one has to go. Simple. They can if they want.

All this does it make the obvious risk a legal matter. "You can't sue us" =/= "You're totally on your own". You know this.

[rman112]

"Joe is still much sharper than Don" is the posting nugget of the day.

"Don't listen to them speak, though."

While then saying, "Trump can't even form sentences anymore".

??????????????

You win, jdandns. No one on the East Coast will top that in the next 6 minutes. You win.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I have given up trying to have a serious dialogue with the majority of the posters in this thread. I now only give responses that mirror their own asinine, insincere, shortsighted, or hypocritical beliefs. I now enjoy coming to this site so much more.

It makes things much more fun. I’ve been called soyboi and unicorn boy. Are those Trump insults?

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I tried, the majority of the posters in here really don't care to discuss issues in a genuine light, so I just started giving the same level of deference in return.

I gave up on that a while ago.

Originally Posted by jdandns

Here's the link for tickets to the big MAGA rally in Tulsa next Friday.

https://events.donaldjtrump.com/even...-rally-june-19

There's this little waiver to sign, but no big deal.

"By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury."

I'm super excited, although I have been really sick this week. I'm sure I'll be better by then, though. I just got some medicine up at the Home Depot.

Who else is going?!?
See ya there!!!


(I'm a hardcore MAGA dude myself, always have been. That's right, I faked every big word!)

I wonder how Donnie Dementia will handle being in an arena of 2,000 people? Will his SS make everyone wear a mask?

[TheFrenzy]

LoneWolf (Serious comment)

One of the most common reasons for social tension is that a group will emerge and begin demanding that X (an action) happens on account of Y (a moral logic)...

Example: The University of Texas should abandon its school spirit song "The Eyes of Texas" (action) because the song's first performance was during a minstrel show in 1903 and is therefore racist (moral logic).

...then the rest of society will begin looking around and applying that same moral logic in a consistent manner to see what this might entail. Often it leads to either contradictions or extremism and society begins pushing back. Tensions begin to grow as the group making the demands will become frustrated because they only intend to apply their moral logic to a very specific set of goals.

To give another example, non-Christians get very uncomfortable when they hear Christians talking about things like a "Bible-based society" or even a "Judeo-Christian heritage" because they just open up the Bible or a history book and see a lot of really brutal things...........things that no modern evangelical Christian is actually asking for. (Like reverting women back into property or bringing back public stonings or replacing democracy with monarchy.)

To use the current moral logic of the BLM, we begin running into some legitimately hard decisions because we know that racism against African Americans isn't the only form of oppression that a consistent moral logic will take into account. We also have patriarchy, religion, other minority races, hetero-normativity, etc. The Twitter crowd may argue that statues of Confederate generals are disposable (and I agree!), but if the moral logic is that "anything which came into being under conditions that normalized any form of oppression is disposable," then literally everything is tainted.

Therefore either we need to refine our moral logic or we need to justify our picking and choosing without resorting to indignant self-righteousness.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I wonder how Donnie Dementia will handle being in an arena of 2,000 people? Will his SS make everyone wear a mask?

Masks aren't imporant anymore.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rman112

"Joe is still much sharper than Don" is the posting nugget of the day.

"Don't listen to them speak, though."

While then saying, "Trump can't even form sentences anymore".

??????????????

You win, jdandns. No one on the East Coast will top that in the next 6 minutes. You win.

You left out the next sentence which was, "Read the actual text of what they say when not on prompter."

Taken together, those two sentences indicate as an exercise to forego listening to Trump and Biden's words as they say them aloud and instead, read the transcript of what they just said afterward. Your ears can fool you, given Trump's lazy cadence, but when reading the text, you can literally see that Trump doesn't (or can't) speak in complete sentences. He's long gone.

Originally Posted by rman112

No sh*t it's real.

No one has to go. Simple. They can if they want.

All this does it make the obvious risk a legal matter. "You can't sue us" =/= "You're totally on your own". You know this.

You left out all kinds of stuff with this careless distillation. Usually, you make up loads of extra material to advance your non-point.
You tired, guy? It's late. Get some rest. I'll say no more.

[TheHeel]

What do Putin, Un, Melania, and Alec Baldwin all have in common?




They all played Trump!

<womp womp wompppppppp>


Melania Trump was in no rush to move into the White House. That’s when she renegotiated her prenup, a new book says.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...bf9_story.html