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Old 03-24-2025, 04:08 PM   #1
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The majority of the 12 billion cards are only good for fire starter though, out of every 100,000 cards pulled, how many are actually worth sending off for grading?
Your point is well taken but the majority of the Pokemon market doesn't agree with it, there are modern Pokemon cards with PSA 10 pops nearing 20,000 that are selling for thousands daily...

Even if people don't think a card is worth grading they do it anyway, and market manipulators play a huge role in this. No one can make sense of the Pokemon market, there's too much money and too many factors at play here now.
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Old 03-24-2025, 05:48 PM   #2
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Old 03-24-2025, 06:26 PM   #3
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This might be the week the kidnappers (PSA) finally show proof of life pictures prior to grading my order.
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Old 03-24-2025, 07:18 PM   #4
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I have an order that arrived on 3/10 and still hasn't been scanned in. 41 card submission and this is by far the longest it's taken to get scanned in.
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Old 03-25-2025, 07:45 AM   #5
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I have an order that arrived on 3/10 and still hasn't been scanned in. 41 card submission and this is by far the longest it's taken to get scanned in.
I've got an order that arrived on 1/21 that still hasn't gotten pictures scanned in yet.

I've also got another order that arrived on 2/6 that is also stuck in RID.
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Old 03-25-2025, 12:24 PM   #6
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I've got an order that arrived on 1/21 that still hasn't gotten pictures scanned in yet.

I've also got another order that arrived on 2/6 that is also stuck in RID.
Wow it's crazy isn't it.
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Old 03-25-2025, 08:45 AM   #7
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I sent a reholder in with a completion date of 3/27...and still somehow stuck in R&ID...Hope they didn't damage the card taking it out.

Type: Reholder <$5,000 - 30 Day Business Turnaround
# of slabs: 1
Estimated Completion Date: 3/27/25
Shipped to PSA: 2/6
Received per PSA: 2/10
Order Prep: 2/13
Research & ID: 2/13
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:
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Old 03-26-2025, 03:37 AM   #8
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I sent a reholder in with a completion date of 3/27...and still somehow stuck in R&ID...Hope they didn't damage the card taking it out.

Type: Reholder <$5,000 - 30 Day Business Turnaround
# of slabs: 1
Estimated Completion Date: 3/27/25
Shipped to PSA: 2/6
Received per PSA: 2/10
Order Prep: 2/13
Research & ID: 2/13
Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:
Very normal. I had a card sent for reholder marked received early Jan and just received it on mid March so yeah it's taking forever
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Old 03-25-2025, 09:53 AM   #9
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It has been taking about a month from what I've seen just to get from 'arrived' to R&ID.

'arrived on 2/6" and still stuck in RID sounds pretty normal for now. My guess is this week or next week it moves to the next stage
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Old 03-25-2025, 10:24 AM   #10
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It has been taking about a month from what I've seen just to get from 'arrived' to R&ID.

'arrived on 2/6" and still stuck in RID sounds pretty normal for now. My guess is this week or next week it moves to the next stage
Yep this is normal, and it's likely even worse than that given my oldest submission:

Type: December 16-31 Pokemon Holiday Special
# of cards: 250
Shipped to PSA: 1/7/2025
Delivered: 1/10/2025 (this is the same as 'Order Arrived' status on the PSA tracker)
Order Prep: 2/7/2025
Research & ID: 2/7/2025 (stuck here for ~6-7 weeks now)
Grading:
Assembly:
Green Check Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:
Delivered:

Order Arrived on PSA tracker > Order Prep on PSA tracker = ~4-5 weeks

Order Prep on PSA tracker > R&ID on PSA tracker = ~1-7 days

R&ID on PSA tracker > Grading on PSA tracker = ??? (this one order of mine is going on its 7th week in R&ID after already taking 4 weeks to go from Order Arrived > R&ID...so it's been at PSA for 11 weeks already and still at R&ID)...

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Old 03-25-2025, 11:26 AM   #11
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Yep this is normal, and it's likely even worse than that given my oldest submission:

Type: December 16-31 Pokemon Holiday Special
# of cards: 250
Shipped to PSA: 1/7/2025
Delivered: 1/10/2025 (this is the same as 'Order Arrived' status on the PSA tracker)
Order Prep: 2/7/2025
Research & ID: 2/7/2025 (stuck here for ~5 weeks now)
Grading:
Assembly:
Green Check Assembly:
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:
Delivered:

Order Arrived on PSA tracker > Order Prep on PSA tracker = ~4-5 weeks

Order Prep on PSA tracker > R&ID on PSA tracker = ~1-7 days

R&ID on PSA tracker > Grading on PSA tracker = ??? (this one order of mine is going on its 7th week in R&ID after already taking 4 weeks to go from Order Arrived > R&ID...so it's been at PSA for 11 weeks already and still at R&ID)...

250 cards is a big order but 5 weeks in R&ID seems a lot.. Maybe they ran into an issue.

Have you called them?
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Old 03-25-2025, 11:40 AM   #12
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250 cards is a big order but 5 weeks in R&ID seems a lot.. Maybe they ran into an issue.

Have you called them?
I have a bulk order of 91 cards from that same time frame that is also at 5 weeks in R&ID, don't underestimate how backed up they are right now.
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Old 03-25-2025, 12:10 PM   #13
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250 cards is a big order but 5 weeks in R&ID seems a lot.. Maybe they ran into an issue.

Have you called them?
I think they are just insanely backed up. I have a 20 card TCG bulk submission which was delivered on 1/6, was officially entered in on 1/30, and has been in R&D since then. I reached out to PSA customer service and they said there was no hold on my order
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Old 03-25-2025, 02:33 PM   #14
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250 cards is a big order but 5 weeks in R&ID seems a lot.. Maybe they ran into an issue.

Have you called them?
I edited my post as this Friday will actually be ~7 weeks at R&ID, not 5 weeks (lol), but yeah...

250+ cards is definitely on the larger-order end but once an order flows through each step in the process I would imagine that the card quantity starts to matter less (for example, once 250+ cards hit the grading table they're probably going to churn through all of those cards the same day whether it's 100 cards or 250 cards, it just might take the graders an extra 2-3 hours or something. This is just my train of thought though).

My estimated completion date I believe is late April, so i'll give myself another couple of weeks of waiting for movement before I give them a call...I know there's people with a decent amount of cards that submitted in the same time frame and are in the same situation and already called and were told there were no hold ups, so it's likely just their insane backlog.

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Maybe they should add an option to skip the scanning?

I dont' give a flying flip about scans, Id rather have my cards back in a timely manner. I can scan the slabs myself
Don't see them ever allowing the option to skip scans, as both the pre and post scans protect them from an insurance sense if a customer has a complaint about the way a card was received/treated/graded.

It doesn't mean PSA holds itself more accountable with these but it's actually very helpful to have pre and post scans in the event something is very different between what you submitted and what you received (protects against them card switching, causing damage, etc).

Also the post scans of the slab are used for the Registry as their "SecureScan" feature to match a card someone might buy on the secondary market to exactly what was scanned when it exited PSA (if you buy stuff on eBay and a slab has a scratch/crack/debris you can check to see if it occurred in the owner's hands or was like that from PSA, etc).

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Old 03-25-2025, 12:01 PM   #15
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Any current ways to see the grades early? I have 3 orders in Assembly checkmark and I am getting antsy over here.
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Old 03-25-2025, 12:19 PM   #16
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My order arrived Dec 18th, estimated completion date of March 21st is still in R&ID no movement for weeks


A 14 card order has been in assembly for almost 2 weeks now.


A value max order has been in assembly for about 5 days now.



Seems to be a huge delay in both R&ID and Assembly.
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Old 03-25-2025, 01:10 PM   #17
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I can just imagine how much of a log jam there is at intake (R&ID) and then at Assembly. Every card coming in needs to be scanned (quicker as it's low res) as well as labeled with a sticker showing order #...and then every graded card going out needs to be scanned and then packed for shipping.
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Old 03-25-2025, 01:29 PM   #18
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Type: March Value Max Special
# of cards: 1
Shipped to PSA: 3/10
Delivered: 3/12
Order Prep: 3/20
Research & ID: 3/20
Grading: 3/22
Assembly: 3/25
Green Check Assembly: 3/25
Grades Ready:
QA:
Shipped:
Delivered:

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Old 03-25-2025, 01:31 PM   #19
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These bastards are legit printing money
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Old 03-25-2025, 01:58 PM   #20
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I can just imagine how much of a log jam there is at intake (R&ID) and then at Assembly. Every card coming in needs to be scanned (quicker as it's low res) as well as labeled with a sticker showing order #...and then every graded card going out needs to be scanned and then packed for shipping.

Maybe they should add an option to skip the scanning?

I dont' give a flying flip about scans, Id rather have my cards back in a timely manner. I can scan the slabs myself
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Old 03-25-2025, 02:05 PM   #21
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Maybe they should add an option to skip the scanning?

I dont' give a flying flip about scans, Id rather have my cards back in a timely manner. I can scan the slabs myself
Too bad they don't offer that option...to opt out of the graded card scan...for those customers who will never sell their graded card and are fine with doing their own scanning at home. For those flipping the graded card, PSA would want the scan should a future owner want to put the card into their vault. That's something PSA really wants though...for everyone to vault their cards with them to make the whole grade/sell transaction supposedly seamless.
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Old 03-25-2025, 01:34 PM   #22
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Fanatics, Pokemon, all the TCGs are all raking in the money...and they're all trying to keep as much of it as possible from small fish wanting a piece.
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Old 03-26-2025, 03:40 AM   #23
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Fanatics, Pokemon, all the TCGs are all raking in the money...and they're all trying to keep as much of it as possible from small fish wanting a piece.
welcome to real world. Eat or be eaten
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Old 03-25-2025, 05:19 PM   #24
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Agreed
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Old 03-26-2025, 06:34 AM   #25
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So, do Submissions move out of the Recent list at a certain point in the process (ie, they've looked at the box at least?) or do they just drop off after a certain amount of time? The sub that arrived on 3/7 in my account just dropped out of Recent in the Submissions screen, but is still listed as Order Received on the website (Order Prep in the app), but the one that is marked as arrived on the 19th is still showing in the Recent Submissions section. If it drops off after a couple weeks (even if they haven't done anything with it), then that would make sense and nothing is happening yet.
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