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Nomad · 10-30-2024, 12:49 PM

Its interesting to me how Mercury started out giving great ROI and then dropped down to giving exactly the same sub returns as any other sealed product. And in the long term will rise again as supply dwindles, even with the foreknowledge of likely scanning. Just as people buy card-exchange sealed 86F boxes that they know have been cobbled together to contain no Jordans.

Bcr · 10-30-2024, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

Its interesting to me how Mercury started out giving great ROI and then dropped down to giving exactly the same sub returns as any other sealed product. And in the long term will rise again as supply dwindles, even with the foreknowledge of likely scanning. Just as people buy card-exchange sealed 86F boxes that they know have been cobbled together to contain no Jordans.

That's how most releases work. Prices driven up with hype upon release then the hype dies and prices cool off. Whether the boxes climb long term is likely going to depend on Wemby's performance at that point.

boxbuster7 · 10-30-2024, 01:22 PM

NBA shouldn't have moved up their season. Competing with NFL and MLB playoffs is just foolish. I can't even focus on basketball till the world series is over.

elontusk1119 · 11-11-2024, 01:05 PM

Speculative bubble is back. Crypto, Stocks rippling like its 2021 again! Are we gonna see ATH in cards now?!!

patchgenie · 11-11-2024, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elontusk1119

Speculative bubble is back. Crypto, Stocks rippling like its 2021 again! Are we gonna see ATH in cards now?!!

its possible we could break the RECORD!!1!

jcardstore · 11-11-2024, 01:08 PM

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Speculative bubble is back. Crypto, Stocks rippling like its 2021 again! Are we gonna see ATH in cards now?!!

and it still doesn't matter for cards lol

discodanman45 · 11-11-2024, 01:24 PM

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Speculative bubble is back. Crypto, Stocks rippling like its 2021 again! Are we gonna see ATH in cards now?!!

NFT's aren't doing anything for the most part, so I doubt this trickles anywhere else. Crypto was trying to be regulated and now people think it will be an unregulated Disneyland. I think cards as investments will continue to decline over time as the majority of people continue to lose money on them and come to their senses.

jcardstore · 11-11-2024, 01:31 PM

Cards weren't commoditized until covid. We have a long way down and a lot of people have a lot more money to lose until it goes back to being a hobby.

It won't be back until you stop seeing those hypebeast goofballs walking around shows with their dumb slab cases and man purses

discodanman45 · 11-11-2024, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Cards weren't commoditized until covid. We have a long way down and a lot of people have a lot more money to lose until it goes back to being a hobby.

It won't be back until you stop seeing those hypebeast goofballs walking around shows with their dumb slab cases and man purses

1099-K forms, if actually issued next year, will be the start of flippers leaving the hobby. Card shows may actually gain steam next year as flippers will use them to avoid the taxes, but online platforms will suffer when reality of tax forms are sent through the mail.

boxbuster7 · 11-11-2024, 01:49 PM

Leave the man purses out of this

drobfan8 · 11-11-2024, 03:05 PM

My plan is to sell anything that I don't collect or really like before Fanatics floods the market with singles.

The $20 to $200 range is a nice space to be in.

I would be crapping myself if I was paying $1000 for these Autos that are getting around. Long drop coming

PSA2Pac · 11-11-2024, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

1099-K forms, if actually issued next year, will be the start of flippers leaving the hobby. Card shows may actually gain steam next year as flippers will use them to avoid the taxes, but online platforms will suffer when reality of tax forms are sent through the mail.

Are you talking about eBay sending them out next year or are there other platforms that will be doing it?

tjforce · 11-11-2024, 05:27 PM

The best stuff will continue to do great.

Don't get caught holding Zion base.

kipgen · 11-11-2024, 05:35 PM

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The best stuff will continue to do great.

Don't get caught holding Zion base.

Base anything seems like a waste of time

Not even due to cost, the cards themselves are just super boring and you could likely get something way more fun (like an optic holo psa 9 vs a prizm base psa 10) for not that much more money

discodanman45 · 11-11-2024, 05:48 PM

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Are you talking about eBay sending them out next year or are there other platforms that will be doing it?

All platforms have to if it is over $5000 in goods/sales.

tjforce · 11-11-2024, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kipgen

Base anything seems like a waste of time

Not even due to cost, the cards themselves are just super boring and you could likely get something way more fun (like an optic holo psa 9 vs a prizm base psa 10) for not that much more money

Base is for collecting.

This is a hobby, after all, and sometimes you just want a basic rookie card of a guy.

RKH916 · 11-11-2024, 07:45 PM

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All platforms have to if it is over $5000 in goods/sales.

Don't know about the States, but in Australia we can have $75k turnover before we have to consider our hobby a business.

Scottish Punk · 11-11-2024, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

The best stuff will continue to do great.

Don't get caught holding Zion base.

I am starting to really retreat in only buying HOF Rcs. Concentrating on older stuff on my wish list. Any modern HOFers going forward will have 100s to choose from at any time. I don't buy much wax anymore and since prizm doesn't come out until season is almost over, it is a bit easier to just target a couple to buy. Everybody else can wait to see if they pan out and the cards will be half off.

elontusk1119 · 11-11-2024, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

I am starting to really retreat in only buying HOF Rcs. Concentrating on older stuff on my wish list. Any modern HOFers going forward will have 100s to choose from at any time. I don't buy much wax anymore and since prizm doesn't come out until season is almost over, it is a bit easier to just target a couple to buy. Everybody else can wait to see if they pan out and the cards will be half off.

kipgen · 11-11-2024, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

I am starting to really retreat in only buying HOF Rcs. Concentrating on older stuff on my wish list. Any modern HOFers going forward will have 100s to choose from at any time. I don't buy much wax anymore and since prizm doesn't come out until season is almost over, it is a bit easier to just target a couple to buy. Everybody else can wait to see if they pan out and the cards will be half off.

Kinda takes some of the fun out of it if you only buy cards for people that played 20+ years ago instead of right now

For me anyway

Delta5 · 11-11-2024, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

NBA shouldn't have moved up their season. Competing with NFL and MLB playoffs is just foolish. I can't even focus on basketball till the world series is over.

NBA season is too long nobody watches regular season games anymore anyway

drobfan8 · 11-11-2024, 09:14 PM

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NBA season is too long nobody watches regular season games anymore anyway

Ok K13

discodanman45 · 11-11-2024, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kipgen

Kinda takes some of the fun out of it if you only buy cards for people that played 20+ years ago instead of right now

For me anyway

Takes out the fun somewhat, but also takes out the risk. For someone like me that collected in the 90's, I learned the lesson that current cards lose value. The same vintage cards that had value when I was a kid, still have value and will continue to have value. There will always be enough people that will collect the history of the game.

jkampis · 11-12-2024, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

All platforms have to if it is over $5000 in goods/sales.

Very possibly could change with Republican control of Congress and the presidency.

jcardstore · 11-12-2024, 07:39 AM

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Very possibly could change with Republican control of Congress and the presidency.

Why would a rule that's in place for 2024 change now?

10-30-2024, 01:22 PM	#2003
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,496 boxbuster777	NBA shouldn't have moved up their season. Competing with NFL and MLB playoffs is just foolish. I can't even focus on basketball till the world series is over. __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

11-11-2024, 01:31 PM	#2008
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21,927 Jcardstore	Cards weren't commoditized until covid. We have a long way down and a lot of people have a lot more money to lose until it goes back to being a hobby. It won't be back until you stop seeing those hypebeast goofballs walking around shows with their dumb slab cases and man purses __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

11-11-2024, 01:49 PM	#2010
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,496 boxbuster777	Leave the man purses out of this __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

11-11-2024, 03:05 PM	#2011
drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,827 drobfan8 drobfan8	My plan is to sell anything that I don't collect or really like before Fanatics floods the market with singles. The $20 to $200 range is a nice space to be in. I would be crapping myself if I was paying $1000 for these Autos that are getting around. Long drop coming __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

11-11-2024, 05:27 PM	#2013
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,435	The best stuff will continue to do great. Don't get caught holding Zion base. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

10-30-2024, 12:49 PM	#2001
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	Its interesting to me how Mercury started out giving great ROI and then dropped down to giving exactly the same sub returns as any other sealed product. And in the long term will rise again as supply dwindles, even with the foreknowledge of likely scanning. Just as people buy card-exchange sealed 86F boxes that they know have been cobbled together to contain no Jordans.

11-11-2024, 01:05 PM	#2004
elontusk1119 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 479	Speculative bubble is back. Crypto, Stocks rippling like its 2021 again! Are we gonna see ATH in cards now?!!