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Old 03-31-2023, 07:12 PM   #176
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Anywhere he goes, people will pay attention. People used to watch the Ducks when they had Kariya and Selanne. Regardless of where they play, people always want to watch a superstar.
Loved sneaking downstairs way past my bedtime as a kid to watch Kariya in the few seasons after he landed in Anaheim all the way here on the East Coast. Too many times my parents would find me asleep on the couch in the morning.
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:29 AM   #177
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2 games into the playoffs and he's only averaging 4 points a game....
5 goals 3 assists


Chicago 54 points, 6 games left
Anaheim 56 points, 5 games left
Columbus 56 points, 6 games left
San Jose 59 points, 6 games left
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:33 AM   #178
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McDavid commented on him the other day... about watching him play with Crosby and his confidence.

Time will tell
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Old 04-04-2023, 08:53 AM   #179
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2 games into the playoffs and he's only averaging 4 points a game....
5 goals 3 assists


Chicago 54 points, 6 games left
Anaheim 56 points, 5 games left
Columbus 56 points, 6 games left
San Jose 59 points, 6 games left
I really hope a team in the 7-10 draft slot wins the lottery. Screw these tanking teams.
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Old 04-04-2023, 11:48 AM   #180
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You know Buttman wants him on the hawks. The Red Wings could be an interesting longshot
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Old 04-04-2023, 01:24 PM   #181
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2 games into the playoffs and he's only averaging 4 points a game....
5 goals 3 assists


Chicago 54 points, 6 games left
Anaheim 56 points, 5 games left
Columbus 56 points, 6 games left
San Jose 59 points, 6 games left
The difference between last and 2nd to last is such a huge % difference (25% vs 13.5%) surely someone is going to work to lose our. Anaheim seems the best bet at this point - just need to make sure to start the young guys in goal
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Old 04-05-2023, 02:09 PM   #182
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You know Buttman wants him on the hawks. The Red Wings could be an interesting longshot
The Red Wings are my #1 choice to where I hope he goes with Anaheim being second, but distantly.
After that, I guess it's the Hawks, but I'm not a fan of him going to SJ or Columbus at all. JMO.
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Old 04-05-2023, 05:13 PM   #183
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Chicago 54 points, 6 games left
Anaheim 56 points, 5 games left
Columbus 56 points, 6 games left
San Jose 59 points, 6 games left
Does anybody have any idea what the Sharks are doing??? Do they not know how to tank?

They were in pole position, and then proceeded to win three games in a row (followed by an OT loss to the Avs in which they came back from 3-1 down in the 3rd), dropping themselves from 1st to 4th in the Bedard sweepstakes.
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Old 04-05-2023, 05:15 PM   #184
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Does anybody have any idea what the Sharks are doing??? Do they not know how to tank?

They were in pole position, and then proceeded to win three games in a row (followed by an OT loss to the Avs in which they came back from 3-1 down in the 3rd), dropping themselves from 1st to 4th in the Bedard sweepstakes.
It's now a 3-way tie for 1st with the Blackhawks winning last night. Does anyone know who gets the grand prize if it ends in a 3-way tie? I'd prefer Bedard go anywhere but Columbus.
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Old 04-05-2023, 05:43 PM   #185
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I think it goes to winning percentage. Sharks going to shork
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Old 04-05-2023, 07:24 PM   #186
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I think it goes to winning percentage. Sharks going to shork
This one only comes into play if teams don't play the same number of games, but it looks like all the "contenders" will end up playing 82 games. I believe the next tie breaker is Regulation Wins. So presumably the fewer RW's, the lower in the standings.

Before Wednesday's games, that looks like:

SJ - 60 Pts. 16 RW's
Chi - 56 Pts. 17 RW's
Col - 56 Pts. 15 RW's
Ana - 56 Pts. 13 RW's
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This one only comes into play if teams don't play the same number of games, but it looks like all the "contenders" will end up playing 82 games. I believe the next tie breaker is Regulation Wins. So presumably the fewer RW's, the lower in the standings.

Before Wednesday's games, that looks like:

SJ - 60 Pts. 16 RW's
Chi - 56 Pts. 17 RW's
Col - 56 Pts. 15 RW's
Ana - 56 Pts. 13 RW's
Anaheim in good position if that's the case. Would be awesome to see him paired up with Zegras. I'm in Chicago so naturally prefer Chicago the most but I'm not really a diehard Blackhawks fan as I'm not from here so doesn't mean as much to me. But, I'm sure I'd become a much bigger fan if they do get Bedard! Columbus would be the worst of the bunch just in terms of excitement I think but he'll still do fine in the hobby if he performs.
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Old 04-05-2023, 11:12 PM   #188
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Does anybody have any idea what the Sharks are doing??? Do they not know how to tank?

They were in pole position, and then proceeded to win three games in a row (followed by an OT loss to the Avs in which they came back from 3-1 down in the 3rd), dropping themselves from 1st to 4th in the Bedard sweepstakes.
They ain’t playing baby ass hockey like Anaheim.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:06 AM   #189
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I really hope a team in the 7-10 draft slot wins the lottery. Screw these tanking teams.
The Canucks have never had the first overall pick. They are due to win this Lottery.
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Old 04-06-2023, 05:10 AM   #190
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If Toronto can lose a couple games down the stretch here the Bruins might wind up with Taylor Hall.
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Old 04-06-2023, 07:38 AM   #191
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anyone but Chicago. Those bandwagoners dont deserve it
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:42 AM   #192
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Bedard belongs in Vancouver.

Not some backwater like Anaheim or Arizona where he'll never be heard from again.
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Old 04-06-2023, 09:44 AM   #193
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Remaining schedules:

Chicago: @Vancouver; @Seattle; vs. Minn; @Pitt; vs. Philly
Anaheim: @Arizona; vs. Colorado; vs. Vancouver; vs. LA
Columbus: @NJ; vs. Rangers; @Philly; vs. Pitt; vs. Buffalo

Probably have to give the edge to Anaheim with one less game to play than the others though Columbus probably has the toughest schedule of the group.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:30 PM   #194
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Remaining schedules:

Chicago: @Vancouver; @Seattle; vs. Minn; @Pitt; vs. Philly
Anaheim: @Arizona; vs. Colorado; vs. Vancouver; vs. LA
Columbus: @NJ; vs. Rangers; @Philly; vs. Pitt; vs. Buffalo

Probably have to give the edge to Anaheim with one less game to play than the others though Columbus probably has the toughest schedule of the group.
Anaheim just has to get "past" that game with Arizona, and they are good to go!
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:33 PM   #195
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Bedard belongs in Vancouver.

Not some backwater like Anaheim or Arizona where he'll never be heard from again.
At least McDavid and Matthews went to good ol' Canadian clubs.
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Old 04-06-2023, 02:02 PM   #196
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Hockey has to be the only of the four major sports where neutral people actually root for generational prospects to the huge market, massive franchises. It's weird to me.

Imagine baseball fans rooting for a generational prospect to go to the Yankees? Or basketball fans rooting for the Lakers to get the #1 pick? Would never happen.

If you're a true neutral fan, one would think you'd want to see Bedard end up in an Arizona, Columbus, San Jose type location as opposed to the Detroit, Chicago, and Montreals who've won plenty in the past and already get all of the media coverage regardless. It would be way more entertaining to see Bedard go to a team without the prestige or the history and try to turn them into a powerhouse.

It's not like the olden days where you only get a few games on TV a week and they were only the marquee franchises. Regardless of where Bedard goes, its easier than ever to watch him play. Even if he ends up in Columbus, you can find a way to watch every single game if you want.
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The Canucks have never had the first overall pick. They are due to win this Lottery.
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Bedard belongs in Vancouver.

Not some backwater like Anaheim or Arizona where he'll never be heard from again.
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VCR currently in the #8 spot with 5 games to go so anything is possible if they don't fall out of the bottom 10. Even from the #13 spot they could move up to get the #4 overall pick of Fantilli, Carllson or Michkov which would be a huge win.
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Old 04-06-2023, 03:28 PM   #198
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Hockey has to be the only of the four major sports where neutral people actually root for generational prospects to the huge market, massive franchises. It's weird to me.

Imagine baseball fans rooting for a generational prospect to go to the Yankees? Or basketball fans rooting for the Lakers to get the #1 pick? Would never happen.

If you're a true neutral fan, one would think you'd want to see Bedard end up in an Arizona, Columbus, San Jose type location as opposed to the Detroit, Chicago, and Montreals who've won plenty in the past and already get all of the media coverage regardless. It would be way more entertaining to see Bedard go to a team without the prestige or the history and try to turn them into a powerhouse.

It's not like the olden days where you only get a few games on TV a week and they were only the marquee franchises. Regardless of where Bedard goes, its easier than ever to watch him play. Even if he ends up in Columbus, you can find a way to watch every single game if you want.
The problem is that large numbers of fans "look down" to some extent on all the warm-weather franchises in non-traditional markets. That's why a team like Tampa Bay has never been able to develop a national following despite their on-ice success. People just don't equate Tampa with hockey. Same thing with places like Arizona, Anaheim, Vegas, Florida, etc.
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Hockey has to be the only of the four major sports where neutral people actually root for generational prospects to the huge market, massive franchises. It's weird to me.

Imagine baseball fans rooting for a generational prospect to go to the Yankees? Or basketball fans rooting for the Lakers to get the #1 pick? Would never happen.

If you're a true neutral fan, one would think you'd want to see Bedard end up in an Arizona, Columbus, San Jose type location as opposed to the Detroit, Chicago, and Montreals who've won plenty in the past and already get all of the media coverage regardless. It would be way more entertaining to see Bedard go to a team without the prestige or the history and try to turn them into a powerhouse.

It's not like the olden days where you only get a few games on TV a week and they were only the marquee franchises. Regardless of where Bedard goes, its easier than ever to watch him play. Even if he ends up in Columbus, you can find a way to watch every single game if you want.
I understand what you're saying but with some of these teams owners/staff, they're not the best place for a kid like this, a generational talent.
Look at the B.S. that happened, and has happened for a while now with the likes of Vancouver.
Going to a team like that can ruin a kid, ruin his career, imo
Detroit with Steve Yzerman running the show, who has hockey smarts, unlike the dingleberries in Vancouver, will bring the best out in this kid.
Same goes with Columbus SJ and Arizona. When's the last time either of these teams has done anything?
If all teams had smart people steering/running their ships, then it wouldn't be a problem where he goes, but, unfortunately, that isn't the case and why I would like to see him on any other team than those mentioned ones.
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I understand what you're saying but with some of these teams owners/staff, they're not the best place for a kid like this, a generational talent.
Look at the B.S. that happened, and has happened for a while now with the likes of Vancouver.
Going to a team like that can ruin a kid, ruin his career, imo
Detroit with Steve Yzerman running the show, who has hockey smarts, unlike the dingleberries in Vancouver, will bring the best out in this kid.
Same goes with Columbus SJ and Arizona. When's the last time either of these teams has done anything?
If all teams had smart people steering/running their ships, then it wouldn't be a problem where he goes, but, unfortunately, that isn't the case and why I would like to see him on any other team than those mentioned ones.
If Yzerman is going to get 4+ years leeway for his "Yzerplan" in Detroit, then it's probably too early to judge Grier in SJ after basically 2.

Both inherited similar messes from previous GM's who kicked the can down the road to try and win with their cores.
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