eBay Trading Card Mandatory Authentication - Starting NOW

[waytoomanycards]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

(PSA, BGS), over $250, sold.....140,000+ search results

Take it up to $750 and you're still looking at 51,000.

If I go -(PSA, BGS) there's 41,000. Some of those would be graded by other companies, but that gives us an idea of the number of cards that will go through "authentication".

I couldn't find anything about graded cards on the official ebay page. Are we sure it will include all grading companies?

[JRX]

So what happens if ebay says its authentic but its later proved to be fake?

[Bcwcardz]

Sounds like a good way to get cards damaged or lost. I want my cards delivered straight to my home not routed through some hub with god knows who touching it. Major turn off.


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by JRX

So what happens if ebay says its authentic but its later proved to be fake?

The sale is final unless the seller accepts returns.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by JRX

So what happens if ebay says its authentic but its later proved to be fake?

Nothing - it would be a past transaction / no time machine for those….

[JRX]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The sale is final unless the seller accepts returns.

So ebay absolves themselves of any liability of authenticating fake items? What about if someone swaps out the card bought with another one or say a GI Joe card? Does the buyer get refunded and the seller just lose out on their item? As others have said any package coming to or from those hubs might as well have a "steal me" sticker on them. You know it has a card worth 250+ in it.

[captionwanker]

Originally Posted by JRX

So what happens if ebay says its authentic but its later proved to be fake?

don't rip the seal, if you have questions about the authenticity go to a LCS and have them verify it. Ebay will take the item back and refund you if you can prove it.

[SupermanBrandon]

When buyers return cards, does it go thru the same process?


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[pewe]

I didn’t notice it earlier, but looks like a card I purchased yesterday will be forced through this process

I’m now quite worried they’ll damage it. Last thing I’d want is the card “re-sleeved”… that’s the riskiest part of the process in my mind. I nearly NEVER remove a card from the penny sleeve it arrived in.




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[JRX]

Do "professional" graders go to "grading school" lol

[elny43]

Originally Posted by pewe

I didn’t notice it earlier, but looks like a card I purchased yesterday will be forced through this process


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Keep us updated on the process. You're now the board's guinea pig

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

Sounds like a good way to get cards damaged or lost. I want my cards delivered straight to my home not routed through some hub with god knows who touching it. Major turn off.


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haha this all day long. Are they adding the Global shipping mafia fee too? Ebay is having a hard time finding their temporary foreign IT workers something to do.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by JRX

So ebay absolves themselves of any liability of authenticating fake items? What about if someone swaps out the card bought with another one or say a GI Joe card? Does the buyer get refunded and the seller just lose out on their item? As others have said any package coming to or from those hubs might as well have a "steal me" sticker on them. You know it has a card worth 250+ in it.

If your mail is tampered with, you’ll have to take it up with eBay and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by captionwanker

don't rip the seal, if you have questions about the authenticity go to a LCS and have them verify it. Ebay will take the item back and refund you if you can prove it.

Can you show us in the conditions where it says that?

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Do we really expect them to stick to 7-10 days? I don't.

HGA did, so can eBay.

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

1) The dollar value needs to be higher.
2) This needs to be optional.
3a) What idiot decided that the dollar value for graded cards should be 1/3 a raw card? Graded cards have already been through this process. That's why they sell for so much more than raw!
3b) $250 for a graded card is not high end.
4) The quick recycle time is essential to Ebay's business. Adding an extra week (if everything goes smoothly) is a bad move.

Conclusion
5a) I see ebay losing sales and revenue over this. It's added overhead, so even if nobody shifted sales to another site buyers will spend more and sellers will make less. That's less total purchases which is less fees for ebay....unless they bought a stake in CSG.
5b) As A seller if I make less, I buy less. And the cycle perpetuates.
5c) I will certainly be looking in to other venues to both buy and sell cards that meet these criteria once we have to pay for it. I don't have any $750 raw cards, but $250+ graded? That's like 90% of the value of my collection.

ETA: I stand corrected. I have one raw card listed for over $750 err, $749.99.

Is the $750 limit including taxes and extra fees? I'm not sure if its been mentioned as I only skimmed the thread but I had a run in with a limit for signature confirmation and found out it was for shipping and taxes.

So basically the entire paid amount. Which is tricky because someone from a high taxes state might purchase your item, bumping the amount up significantly.

[captionwanker]

Originally Posted by JRX

So ebay absolves themselves of any liability of authenticating fake items? What about if someone swaps out the card bought with another one or say a GI Joe card? Does the buyer get refunded and the seller just lose out on their item? As others have said any package coming to or from those hubs might as well have a "steal me" sticker on them. You know it has a card worth 250+ in it.

Buyer gets refunded, Seller gets item returned.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If your mail is tampered with, you’ll have to take it up with eBay and hope for the best.


Can you show us in the conditions where it says that?

I was thinking more of a situation where the package you get from ebay doesn't match what you bought.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by pewe

I didn’t notice it earlier, but looks like a card I purchased yesterday will be forced through this process

I’m now quite worried they’ll damage it. Last thing I’d want is the card “re-sleeved”… that’s the riskiest part of the process in my mind. I nearly NEVER remove a card from the penny sleeve it arrived in.

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Exactly, too many touches can possibly damage it.

It is like takeoffs and landings you want to limit them to help your odds of survival.

[Philthy]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Do we really expect them to stick to 7-10 days? I don't.

No way in hell. Especially if they follow through on the $250 price point for slabs and raw autos. Thats thousand of cards a day and theres no way CSG has the resources to process that efficiently.

They are either going to have to do a much slower rollout while they acquire and train staff or people are going to be waiting months for their cards to be verified. I was just passing along what the eBay reddit account parrotted.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

This was posted in the quiet eBay forum an hour ago ... someone talk me off the ledge. (Putting it here for exposure)

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301467143.html

This starts now, and appears mandatory for all sellers. Any item that sells for $750+ must be shipped to eBay, and costs of authentication are covered (for now). This will expand to graded cards valued at $250 or more in the near future.

https://pages.ebay.com/authenticity-...ingcards/#FAQs

BTW I’ll add a wrinkle to this: it looks like the trigger is the LIST price, not the paid price if you do BO.

The raw card I bought was listed at $775, but I got it with a $600 best offer. It still triggered the mandatory review. And I’m guessing it’s because the list price was $750+.


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[captionwanker]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If your mail is tampered with, you’ll have to take it up with eBay and hope for the best.


Can you show us in the conditions where it says that?

I know this from first hand experience buying their sneakers, the QR Code on the seal will match the exact item you purchase. they can go through the history, the employee who handed it, the photos, everything. Once you cut the seal/sticker you lose any claim, because it can obviously be switched out.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by JRX

I was thinking more of a situation where the package you get from ebay doesn't match what you bought.

You will have to take it up with eBay if someone tampers with your mail in any way. Not sure how forgiving eBay will be with this.

[SupermanBrandon]

Handling sneakers and women’s purses is much different than handling raw sports cards.


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by captionwanker

I know this from first hand experience buying their sneakers, the QR Code on the seal will match the exact item you purchase. they can go through the history, the employee who handed it, the photos, everything. Once you cut the seal/sticker you lose any claim, because it can obviously be switched out.

I’m not sure how that verifies what you claimed below. Say I buy a raw 86F MJ and CSG authenticates it. I identify a colored edge when it is delivered to me. The seller doesn’t accept returns, so the sale is final. You’re saying I can take it to my LCS to have it verified as altered, then eBay will take it back and refund me?

Originally Posted by captionwanker

don't rip the seal, if you have questions about the authenticity go to a LCS and have them verify it. Ebay will take the item back and refund you if you can prove it.

[captionwanker]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Handling sneakers and women’s purses is much different than handling raw sports cards.


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yeah its going to be much easier. I seen guys sit at tables and go through hundreds of cards in 10 minutes.