Get the NSCC out of the Donald J. Stephens Convention Center. Please.

[sportsnutcards]

They should keep it in Chicago every year just like the 2 major Comic-Cons are in their respective cities. I have done the last 18 Nationals, and Chicago just works the best out of all of the locations for many reasons mentioned in this thread. The convention center was not in top form this year, neither were the restaurants or hotels, but that was more of a covid issue than anything else. Cleveland and Baltimore were good too, but they are not options any longer. Btw, 70% of the dealers who do the national are east of the Mississippi, its not just the major WAX dealers, and thats why going out west gets voted down every time.

[gregggyf]

Originally Posted by bradical

Not going to find another venue in Chicago with the accessibility that DESC has.

Just at the footsteps of ORD, at the Intersection of I90 and 294, 7 (or more) skywalk connected hotels, and across the street from a Blue line stop.

Good Afternoon, This was THE FIRST mention I have heard that this center was near the Blue Line.

Not one YouTuber or any other "content creator" made any mention of public transportation.

I just wanted to mention this. : )

This information probably did not pertain to 95% of the attendees, but it certainly is nice to know.

Thank you.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by sportsnutcards

They should keep it in Chicago every year just like the 2 major Comic-Cons are in their respective cities. I have done the last 18 Nationals, and Chicago just works the best out of all of the locations for many reasons mentioned in this thread. The convention center was not in top form this year, neither were the restaurants or hotels, but that was more of a covid issue than anything else. Cleveland and Baltimore were good too, but they are not options any longer. Btw, 70% of the dealers who do the national are east of the Mississippi, its not just the major WAX dealers, and thats why going out west gets voted down every time.

I mean, this is it in a nutshell.

Not sure why we have to hear why it should be in (poster's home state) each time we have a new show.

Those other options have been explored and there is a reason it is in the locations it is. I'm sure the board who runs the show is putting a LOT more time and thought into this to make it the most successful they can each year because - well that's the point of the board. And money talks.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by sportsnutcards

They should keep it in Chicago every year just like the 2 major Comic-Cons are in their respective cities. I have done the last 18 Nationals, and Chicago just works the best out of all of the locations for many reasons mentioned in this thread. The convention center was not in top form this year, neither were the restaurants or hotels, but that was more of a covid issue than anything else. Cleveland and Baltimore were good too, but they are not options any longer. Btw, 70% of the dealers who do the national are east of the Mississippi, its not just the major WAX dealers, and that's why going out west gets voted down every time.

Yup. And 60% of the US lives East of the Mighty Miss as well.

For better context, here is where most of the US lives. Moving the National West would just throw way too much off for so many people.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by gregggyf

Good Afternoon, This was THE FIRST mention I have heard that this center was near the Blue Line.

Not one YouTuber or any other "content creator" made any mention of public transportation.

I just wanted to mention this. : )

This information probably did not pertain to 95% of the attendees, but it certainly is nice to know.

Thank you.

It was pointed out in various other threads about the National leading up to the show. The biggest plus for the Blue Line, is being able to go right from the airport to your hotel, if staying near the convention center. Just 1 train, and it is only 1 stop once you get on.

The same train will take you all the way downtown as well, if you wanted to explore the actual city.

A luxury not many other hosting sites have.

Not many people would be taking the train to and from the show each day. I can see why your youtubers didn't mention it. Being on public transit with valuable collectibles, is not something Id recommend.

[SearchPatrol]

I just feels, with the last 2 National's being in Chicago (2019 & 2021), that the time is right to have it in Rosemont full time. If you are a NSCC show Director, wouldn't that make your job so much easier? 5 years locked in at the same place and known dates.

I just have a feeling that airport issues will hurt AC. People will look fondly on Chicago, and then it will be Chicago every year.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

I just feels, with the last 2 National's being in Chicago (2019 & 2021), that the time is right to have it in Rosemont full time. If you are a NSCC show Director, wouldn't that make your job so much easier? 5 years locked in at the same place and known dates.

I just have a feeling that airport issues will hurt AC. People will look fondly on Chicago, and then it will be Chicago every year.

If I have to fly to the show, then let it have some variety. The convention center in Rosemont, though very convenient to the airport, is a dump in serious need of refurbishment.

The only problem transportation wise for people flying to Atlantic City would be if they can't drive or just hate taking Amtrak.

[SearchPatrol]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

If I have to fly to the show, then let it have some variety.

But why?? just because? How much of the city do you see for each National? I would think the most important things are flights and hotels.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

But why?? just because? How much of the city do you see for each National? I would think the most important things are flights and hotels.

I didn't go into the city this time which was my first National but not first time in Rosemont. If the convention center wasn't so run down with a poor layout (wide open spaces with no traffic but also bottlenecks along the walkways) I wouldn't disagree with you.

[2010GBPackers]

With Fanatics now in control of the hobby, what are the chances they take over the National Convention, too?

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

With Fanatics now in control of the hobby, what are the chances they take over the National Convention, too?

37.4%

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Grid

Yup. And 60% of the US lives East of the Mighty Miss as well.

For better context, here is where most of the US lives. Moving the National West would just throw way too much off for so many people.

And those of us who live in the Western US would be very happy with that level of division for National locations.....i.e. have it in the Western US once every 4-5 years.

[Mrhenrychan]

Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

I just feels, with the last 2 National's being in Chicago (2019 & 2021), that the time is right to have it in Rosemont full time. If you are a NSCC show Director, wouldn't that make your job so much easier? 5 years locked in at the same place and known dates.

I just have a feeling that airport issues will hurt AC. People will look fondly on Chicago, and then it will be Chicago every year.

NSCC show Director is in bed with whoever represents Atlantic City...

When the convention center closed in Cleveland, we all knew Atlantic City was getting Cleveland's slot because I don't know what Atlantic City is bribing NSCC show directors with but it's working...

[rats60]

Originally Posted by mfw13

And those of us who live in the Western US would be very happy with that level of division for National locations.....i.e. have it in the Western US once every 4-5 years.

Just find someone who can establish and run a show in the west. The premier show in the hobby isn't going to be given to a city that can't support the hobby on an annual basis.

Chicago runs 2 national shows per year. Atlantic City is strategically located between successful shows in Chantilly, Philly and White Plains. What western city can match these? This is a business, not a sympathy decision so everyone gets participation trophies.

[jjcan]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

With Fanatics now in control of the hobby, what are the chances they take over the National Convention, too?

5 years from now the nscc convention will be in Orlando since its close to Fanatics Hq. Fanatics will run all autographs through their exclusive signers no more tristar.

They will run all breaks and not have a breaker pavillion.

Fanatics will do same day grading for all fanatics products and also sell pre slabbed fanatics cards since they will have bought SGC and just slab at manufacture.

Blowout , Dave and adams, and steel city will be selling their wax as vintage since Fanatics will run their own redemption program.
Buy one box get a coupon for a signed hat .

Panini and Topps will hold soccer parties and hope their non sport licenses carry them for another year handing out star wars episode 12 promos and frozen 5 panini stickers.

Leaf will be the second biggest sports card manufacturer.

oh. and the west coast will still be stuck with no national.

[dizzydolse]

Originally Posted by jjcan

5 years from now the nscc convention will be in Orlando since its close to Fanatics Hq. Fanatics will run all autographs through their exclusive signers no more tristar.

They will run all breaks and not have a breaker pavillion.

Fanatics will do same day grading for all fanatics products and also sell pre slabbed fanatics cards since they will have bought SGC and just slab at manufacture.

Blowout , Dave and adams, and steel city will be selling their wax as vintage since Fanatics will run their own redemption program.
Buy one box get a coupon for a signed hat .

Panini and Topps will hold soccer parties and hope their non sport licenses carry them for another year handing out star wars episode 12 promos and frozen 5 panini stickers.

Leaf will be the second biggest sports card manufacturer.

oh. and the west coast will still be stuck with no national.

[regionrat]

Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

I just feels, with the last 2 National's being in Chicago (2019 & 2021), that the time is right to have it in Rosemont full time. If you are a NSCC show Director, wouldn't that make your job so much easier? 5 years locked in at the same place and known dates.

I just have a feeling that airport issues will hurt AC. People will look fondly on Chicago, and then it will be Chicago every year.

It's in Rosemont NOT Chicago. Best of both worlds for people that do & do not want to visit Chicago. Rosemont is right next to the city and O'Hare.

I think it should be in Rosemont every year even though I have my issues with the Stephens Center.

[regionrat]

Originally Posted by Mrhenrychan

NSCC show Director is in bed with whoever represents Atlantic City...

When the convention center closed in Cleveland, we all knew Atlantic City was getting Cleveland's slot because I don't know what Atlantic City is bribing NSCC show directors with but it's working...

I believe that the Atlantic City deal benefits the NSCC Board of Directors & management much more then it benefits the good of the show overall.

[regionrat]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

37.4%

If Fanatics acquires Topps will the odds move up to 38%?

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by jjcan

5 years from now the nscc convention will be in Orlando since its close to Fanatics Hq. Fanatics will run all autographs through their exclusive signers no more tristar.

They will run all breaks and not have a breaker pavillion.

Fanatics will do same day grading for all fanatics products and also sell pre slabbed fanatics cards since they will have bought SGC and just slab at manufacture.

Blowout , Dave and adams, and steel city will be selling their wax as vintage since Fanatics will run their own redemption program.
Buy one box get a coupon for a signed hat .

Panini and Topps will hold soccer parties and hope their non sport licenses carry them for another year handing out star wars episode 12 promos and frozen 5 panini stickers.

Leaf will be the second biggest sports card manufacturer.

oh. and the west coast will still be stuck with no national.

Orlando would be great for Disney fans. Drop family off early at the parks and you spend all day at the National. Win-win if you can stomach the ticket prices.

[jjcan]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Orlando would be great for Disney fans. Drop family off early at the parks and you spend all day at the National. Win-win if you can stomach the ticket prices.

I mean at this rate. Fanatics can just call the shots and say, well if you don't have the convention on our terms we just don't show up and just do sponser shows at all the fan fests.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by jjcan

I mean at this rate. Fanatics can just call the shots and say, well if you don't have the convention on our terms we just don't show up and just do sponser shows at all the fan fests.

I don't see how Fanatics automatically takes control of the National without also having to buy the NSCC show rights.

Otherwise only collectors interested in redemption packs actually care if any of the corporate dealers show up. I think most people go because it's the biggest gathering of card sellers of all sizes period.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by jjcan

I mean at this rate. Fanatics can just call the shots and say, well if you don't have the convention on our terms we just don't show up and just do sponser shows at all the fan fests.

I'm actually surprised that MLB (or any of the other leagues) haven't gotten more directly involved with the trading card industry.

- more card giveaways at games
- dedicated sports card/memorabilia stores within ballparks
- organizing a big show at the All-Star Game
- organizing shows in coordination with weekend homestands/games

Just for an example, next weekend here in Seattle the Seahawks, Mariners, and Sounders all are at home. There is a convention area with room for several hundred tables on the street level of Lumen Field, which happens to also be right next door to Safeco Field. So there will be thousands of sports fans in the area all weekend long.

Perfect opportunity for a sports card show.....

I'm not sure if there are other cities where all the stadia are in close proximity to each other like they are in Seattle, but there have to be a few.

[CardboardCombat]

An Orlando National would be a disaster.

So we have to compete with the Disney, Universal and other vacation destination crowds for flights, rental cars and hotel rooms.

Orlando is in a corner of the country and wouldn't be a convenient place.

As a buyer, I'd have to negotiate an extra couple grand off the dealers just to break even from the cost of the trip. At that point I'd just stay home.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by CardboardCombat

An Orlando National would be a disaster.

So we have to compete with the Disney, Universal and other vacation destination crowds for flights, rental cars and hotel rooms.

Orlando is in a corner of the country and wouldn't be a convenient place.

As a buyer, I'd have to negotiate an extra couple grand off the dealers just to break even from the cost of the trip. At that point I'd just stay home.

Agreed with this.

The National is a card show, it is not run by any of the current card manufacturers.

If anything, all this changes is that instead of having a Topps/Panini/DA/BO booth setup in the center of the show, it would just be one large Fanatics booth - if they feel the need to attend.