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Old 12-13-2020, 10:15 AM   #176
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Ja Morant man, picked up right where he left off. Jaren Jackson comes back fully healthy the Grizz might make some noise. Ja is gonna average a double double this year, defenders were flocking to the lane every time he acted like he was gonna drive, leaving guys open on the wings regularly, 11 assists was the outcome. That was without even playing in the 4th. He and Valanciunas have developed a nice pick and roll game as well, they really just need another guy that can score with regularity from the wings, maybe Bane can provide that pop.

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Old 12-13-2020, 10:35 AM   #177
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The Athletic did a great preview on them, so many young players with talent. They are prime for a consolidation trade to get a 3rd piece for JJ and Ja. Big if but if Tillman + Bane hit and Melton can learn how to shoot enough to be respectful they'll be a Western Conference heavyweight.

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Old 12-13-2020, 10:51 AM   #178
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:55 AM   #179
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The Athletic did a great preview on them, so many young players with talent. They are prime for a consolidation trade to get a 3rd piece for JJ and Ja. Big if but if Tillman + Bane hit and Melton can learn how to shoot enough to be respectful they'll be a Western Conference heavyweight.

https://theathletic.com/2251326/2020...e-flexibility/
I'm a Michigan State basketball fan, and Tillman is a really solid player. He's never gonna be an All Star or anything close but he could develop into a really solid 15/10 guy, he's a ferocious rebounder and great at finding open guys. Bane looked comfortable last night, he was knocking em down, he's the one I expect to be a player for them.

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Old 12-13-2020, 11:05 AM   #180
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Bane will get open shots playing next to Ja Morant, if he can knock them down at a high level than he, Ja, Clarke, Tillman, and JJ could be a downright ferocious team. They'll be an extremely tough defensive team able to match up with pretty much anyone.
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If LaMelo ever figures out how to score, watch out. That’s all I gotta say.

No Okoro hype? The shot looked smooth. 16pts in the 4th and the game winning bucket
If Okoro can shoot consistently like he did last night? He will be a freaking steal at #5
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Old 12-13-2020, 12:50 PM   #182
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Bane will get open shots playing next to Ja Morant, if he can knock them down at a high level than he, Ja, Clarke, Tillman, and JJ could be a downright ferocious team. They'll be an extremely tough defensive team able to match up with pretty much anyone.
Damn I forgot about Brandon Clarke, they got a nice little nucleus. Valanciunas is solid too. They need one more solid pure scorer imo, they'll likely have to make a trade if they think they're in range this year.

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Old 12-13-2020, 12:50 PM   #183
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Wiseman already on load management. LaMello ofer shooting. Edwards did...not much.

Great start for the top 3.
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If Okoro can shoot consistently like he did last night? He will be a freaking steal at #5
Just bought a sweet Okoro last night actually, about the same time he was showing out on the court. Divine intervention, I say.

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Wiseman already on load management. LaMello ofer shooting. Edwards did...not much.

Great start for the top 3.
LaMelo is just like his brother, can't shoot but is a good distributor. Both were overdrafted imo

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Old 12-13-2020, 01:03 PM   #186
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lamelo has a much quicker first step than his bro, has a lot more confidence, taller and can finish at the rim. based on those attributes, he’s probably going to have a much more successful career than lonzo.
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Old 12-13-2020, 01:05 PM   #187
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I honestly think they should make a play for Lavine. They have draft picks and talent and he'd be huge there.

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lamelo has a much quicker first step than his bro, has a lot more confidence, taller and can finish at the rim. based on those attributes, he’s probably going to have a much more successful career than lonzo.
based on his 0-5 debut you think he can finish at the rim? Confidence for now, yah I'll give him that. Still has a lot to work on imo
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Damn I forgot about Brandon Clarke, they got a nice little nucleus. Valanciunas is solid too. They need one more solid pure scorer imo, they'll likely have to make a trade if they think they're in range this year.

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Unless a bunch of the top guys on the top teams go down, I don't think they trade to try and get the 8 seed this year. They don't have Winslow or JJJ to start the year, so they'll be starting from behind [unless something crazy happens]. This is the year they develop and figure out what they have. See what happens with the top teams and then play to compete next year.
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based on his 0-5 debut you think he can finish at the rim? Confidence for now, yah I'll give him that. Still has a lot to work on imo
ive been watching him all year long in Australia, son. different beast than lonzo.

ucla lonzo wasnt attacking the rim with the same approach. he would usually drive to create play for others.


lamelo’s touch on layups and floaters is just legit. he has a scorer mentality.
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This next draft will be incredibly important for them, I don't see them making the playoffs so they should be in the lottery - if they were to luck up and get a high pick they could then start consolidating their SG's, and grab a wing.

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Unless a bunch of the top guys on the top teams go down, I don't think they trade to try and get the 8 seed this year. They don't have Winslow or JJJ to start the year, so they'll be starting from behind [unless something crazy happens]. This is the year they develop and figure out what they have. See what happens with the top teams and then play to compete next year.
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ive been watching him all year long in Australia, son. different beast than lonzo.

ucla lonzo wasnt attacking the rim with the same approach. he would usually drive to create play for others.


lamelo’s touch on layups and floaters is just legit. he has a scorer mentality.

...and NBA defenders are a 'different beast' than those in Australian Leagues... I don't think it's going to be very easy for him, especially not until he develops a bit more upper-body strength so he can finish through contact.
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This next draft will be incredibly important for them, I don't see them making the playoffs so they should be in the lottery - if they were to luck up and get a high pick they could then start consolidating their SG's, and grab a wing.
Eh idk... Maybe if they see a guy they think can be a foundational piece in the later lottery I guess. They already have Allen, Anderson, Bane, Winslow as young wings. Bane may be something, and Winslow is underrated / starting material for them for-sure. They might be running into what the Hawks have also done, which is acquiring a bunch of talented youngsters who all play similar positions. Now the key will be sifting them out and seeing if there's any gold there.

Like the Hawks too they already have a cornerstone PG and PF/big, so it's getting the right pieces/vets around them to utilize their strengths / cover their weaknesses. They're lucky in that JJJ has a true C size/length, so if he gets stronger he can easily play the 5, unlike Collins, who would always be a bit undersized for that. Also should be glad Ja isn't as big of a defensive liability as Trae, so don't have a big need to put two plus defenders on the wings.
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...and NBA defenders are a 'different beast' than those in Australian Leagues... I don't think it's going to be very easy for him, especially not until he develops a bit more upper-body strength so he can finish through contact.
honestly, you’re looking at this all wrong. at that young of an age, you shouldn’t focus on his opposition. you watch the game and you can tell if the player has the skill and attribute.



are you going to argue with me and tell us that lamelo will have a worst FG% in the paint than lonzo? because lonzo’s ability to finish is already a pretty low bar. take this from someone who’s been following them for years.
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honestly, you’re looking at this all wrong. at that young of an age, you shouldn’t focus on his opposition. you watch the game and you can tell if the player has the skill and attribute.



are you going to argue with me and tell us that lamelo will have a worst FG% in the paint than lonzo? because lonzo’s ability to finish is already a pretty low bar. take this from someone who’s been following them for years.

If Lamelo plays more of a Rubio role and facilitates he'll be a star, if he wants to be a 20+ scorer he'll be a bust. He doesn't shoot well enough to take more of a scoring role. His court vision is legendary. His aptitude for scoring is in one word awful.


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They are a team that has absolutely crushed their rebuild. If they are able to take the next step and separate the good from the eh, they'll be in great shape.

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Eh idk... Maybe if they see a guy they think can be a foundational piece in the later lottery I guess. They already have Allen, Anderson, Bane, Winslow as young wings. Bane may be something, and Winslow is underrated / starting material for them for-sure. They might be running into what the Hawks have also done, which is acquiring a bunch of talented youngsters who all play similar positions. Now the key will be sifting them out and seeing if there's any gold there.

Like the Hawks too they already have a cornerstone PG and PF/big, so it's getting the right pieces/vets around them to utilize their strengths / cover their weaknesses. They're lucky in that JJJ has a true C size/length, so if he gets stronger he can easily play the 5, unlike Collins, who would always be a bit undersized for that. Also should be glad Ja isn't as big of a defensive liability as Trae, so don't have a big need to put two plus defenders on the wings.
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Old 12-13-2020, 02:41 PM   #197
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Malachi Flynn looked solid yesterday in his debut.

Masai with another draft steal
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Old 12-13-2020, 02:57 PM   #198
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Malachi Flynn looked solid yesterday in his debut.

Masai with another draft steal

I really want to see how they handle the 2021 class and the next moves they make as I think they need another move to take them that next step again but they have built that team so intelligently.


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Old 12-13-2020, 03:19 PM   #199
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Talen Horton-Tuckers cards have gone up
300xover the past 2 days
Check your shoe and dollar boxes
His silver holo optic was 0.99 forever, now they’re going $50-$100
Large base optic lots up sell out at $12 a card.
His numbered optics ? Saw red /99 bidding at $169, a /50 blue at $340
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If Lamelo plays more of a Rubio role and facilitates he'll be a star, if he wants to be a 20+ scorer he'll be a bust. He doesn't shoot well enough to take more of a scoring role. His court vision is legendary. His aptitude for scoring is in one word awful.


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There’s no litmus test at this stage of his career to call him a bust. Absolutely nothing other than his short term stint in NBDL to suggest he won’t improve either. So, let’s pump the brakes on these bust takes.


It’s also weird that the Rubio comp is popping all over the place. He plays nothing like Rubio who’s been one of the most reliable and aggressive defensive guard in the league.


You guys are going off on a tangent here, per par. I simply stated Lamelo will be a better finisher than Lonzo because of the obvious advantages he has over his elder bro.
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