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Old 05-06-2023, 11:07 PM   #176
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Boooooo No Iron Maiden or JoyDiv/New Order
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Old 05-07-2023, 11:52 AM   #177
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Iron Maiden have sold 130 million albums worldwide. Rage Against The Machine have sold 16 million.

Year after year Iron Maiden has world wide tours in the biggest stadiums always selling out. Rage might have had a few sold out stadiums in their career.

Iron Maidens career has span nearly 50 years with 17 albums while Rage lasted 8 years with 4 albums and really only two career defining hits.

Iron Maiden was one of the leaders of the British Heavy Metal invasion and helped define the genre of Heavy Metal. They were one of the bands that helped revolutionize MTV as the defining source of music in the 1980's. They are still one of the most beloved heavy metal bands worldwide to all age groups.

It really shows what a joke the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is when you can sit back and compare these two and see the obvious impact one band has had on a global level as compared to the other yet somehow the least impactful one manages to get in.
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Old 05-07-2023, 01:05 PM   #178
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It's a total joke, and I'm right there with you on everything you said. The R&R Hall of Fame has consistently failed when it comes to acknowledging pioneers and innovators. On a broader note, Metal has always been mistreated by the industry and the system, which seems to cater more to pop, radio-friendly forms of rock music than those who blazed trails for contemporary musicians.

The fact that they couldn't wait to induct Green Day in 2015 and only last year got around to giving Judas Priest their due, speaks volumes. Same with Def Leppard, who many would argue were an integral part of the success MTV found in their early years, and were a massively successful rock/metal act (I use the term "Metal" loosely here). Iron Maiden should have been in years ago. Maiden is so crucially important to music, especially "rock" music. From their early punkish days with Paul Di'Anno to their more commercially successful with Bruce Dickenson, Maiden blazed the way for so many of the bands that followed in their footsteps. It's insulting that they aren't in yet, while bands like Green Day and Rage (who are both worthy in their own right) were in before Maiden.

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Iron Maiden have sold 130 million albums worldwide. Rage Against The Machine have sold 16 million.

Year after year Iron Maiden has world wide tours in the biggest stadiums always selling out. Rage might have had a few sold out stadiums in their career.

Iron Maidens career has span nearly 50 years with 17 albums while Rage lasted 8 years with 4 albums and really only two career defining hits.

Iron Maiden was one of the leaders of the British Heavy Metal invasion and helped define the genre of Heavy Metal. They were one of the bands that helped revolutionize MTV as the defining source of music in the 1980's. They are still one of the most beloved heavy metal bands worldwide to all age groups.

It really shows what a joke the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is when you can sit back and compare these two and see the obvious impact one band has had on a global level as compared to the other yet somehow the least impactful one manages to get in.

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Old 05-07-2023, 01:55 PM   #179
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Bush, Elliot, Michael, over Soundgarden in the RRHOF???? wtf bizzarro world is this?
I know. Especially Elliot. Who the hell got paid off on that one? It's a complete farce. Add Maiden to the list of those who got jobbed.
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Old 05-07-2023, 05:58 PM   #180
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I know. Especially Elliot. Who the hell got paid off on that one? It's a complete farce. Add Maiden to the list of those who got jobbed.
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Old 04-21-2024, 09:09 PM   #181
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Congrats to this year's inductees:

Mary J. Blige
Cher
Dave Matthews Band
Foreigner
Peter Frampton
Kool & The Gang
Ozzy Osbourne
A Tribe Called Quest.

Jimmy Buffett, MC5, Dionne Warwick, and Norman Whitfield were selected as the recipients of the Musical Excellence Award.

The 2024 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will happen live on Saturday, October 19th and will stream live on Disney+ (available on Hulu Oct. 20th) with a special airing on ABC at a later date for people who only have an antenna on their roof.
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Old 04-21-2024, 09:41 PM   #182
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Congrats to this year's inductees:

Mary J. Blige
Cher
Dave Matthews Band
Foreigner
Peter Frampton
Kool & The Gang
Ozzy Osbourne
A Tribe Called Quest.

Jimmy Buffett, MC5, Dionne Warwick, and Norman Whitfield were selected as the recipients of the Musical Excellence Award.

The 2024 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will happen live on Saturday, October 19th and will stream live on Disney+ (available on Hulu Oct. 20th) with a special airing on ABC at a later date for people who only have an antenna on their roof.
So, I don't follow this very closely. Is Ozzy Osbourne really currently not in the Rock N Roll HOF?
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Old 04-21-2024, 09:56 PM   #183
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So, I don't follow this very closely. Is Ozzy Osbourne really currently not in the Rock N Roll HOF?
Ozzy was inducted in 2006 as a member of Black Sabbath.
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Old 04-21-2024, 10:43 PM   #184
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Ozzy was inducted in 2006 as a member of Black Sabbath.
OK, so this is him going in solo, that makes more sense, thank you.
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Old 04-21-2024, 10:47 PM   #185
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That's right, some people are in twice, for instance, all of the Beatles as "The Beatles" and also as solo artists (John, Paul, George as "performers" and Ringo in the "musical excellence" category). Tina Turner is in twice as part of "Ike & Tina" and also as a solo artist, and so on...
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Old 04-21-2024, 11:36 PM   #186
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Congrats to this year's inductees:

Mary J. Blige
Cher
Dave Matthews Band
Foreigner
Peter Frampton
Kool & The Gang
Ozzy Osbourne
A Tribe Called Quest.

Jimmy Buffett, MC5, Dionne Warwick, and Norman Whitfield were selected as the recipients of the Musical Excellence Award.

The 2024 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will happen live on Saturday, October 19th and will stream live on Disney+ (available on Hulu Oct. 20th) with a special airing on ABC at a later date for people who only have an antenna on their roof.
Weaksauce- I would make cases for DMB Foreigner Ozzy and ATCQ Still no Iron Maiden-Come on
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Old 04-22-2024, 12:04 AM   #187
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Foreigner absolutely belongs, they have a terrific catalog.
Frampton was also overdue from actual rock music acts.
DMB kept winning the fan vote, so they pretty much had to put them in, otherwise, why even have a fan vote?

For me, the most glaring omissions remain Joy Division/New Order and The Smiths.
I'd like to see Billy Idol in there, too (especially since Joan Jett got in. She was deserving, but Billy made more great songs than her and he wrote pretty much all of his own material) plus X (from Los Angeles) and They Might Be Giants.

Beyond that, Kim Deal (from the Pixies and the Breeders) should get in on the "musical excellence" ticket at a minimum. Same goes for Danny Elfman (front man on Oingo Boingo and celebrated film score composer).
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Old 04-22-2024, 12:08 AM   #188
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Just Foreigner and Ozzy for me,and I also think it's a crime that Iron Maiden is not in.
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:28 AM   #189
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It is also criminal that the Scorpions aren't in either.
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Old 04-22-2024, 07:19 AM   #191
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New Order
Erasure
Iron Maiden
Motley Crue
Slayer
Megadeth
INXS
ColdPlay
Pixies

Slayer should be in there long, long time ago. Like New Order, they created a genre.
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Old 04-22-2024, 09:17 AM   #192
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The news on Foreigner getting in is pretty big here locally cause Lou Graham lives in Rochester...
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:22 AM   #193
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Nothing on this year's list is terribly infuriating to me, but then again the bar is pretty low and wobbly for RRHOF and has been for years.
As far as my own personal wishes for induction or acknowledgement, same couple acts from the last few years I think deserving:

Los Lobos- masters of multiple genres and absolutely essential LA music. Longevity + respected by many other great musicians as well.

Warren Haynes- Anchored the return of the Allman Brothers in the late 80s/early 90s, his own band (Gov't Mule) is absolute fire and has been for 30+ years. Incredible guitarist and human being who has acted as ambassador for younger new live music acts for years. Really high quality human being and musician.

Staying in the live music/jam genre I think with DMB getting in Widespread Panic shouldn't be far behind.
Drive by Truckers in a few years too.
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:37 AM   #194
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The RR HOF is not a serious thing.

IRON MAIDEN not being in is a perfect example.
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New Order
Erasure
Iron Maiden
Motley Crue
Slayer
Megadeth
INXS
ColdPlay
Pixies

Slayer should be in there long, long time ago. Like New Order, they created a genre.
I agree with a lot of these Iron Maiden Slayer MegaDeth most definitely followed by New Order/Joy Division and the Smiths would be my arguments
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I agree with a lot of these Iron Maiden Slayer MegaDeth most definitely followed by New Order/Joy Division and the Smiths would be my arguments

Although not in my wheelhouse I agree with these. I’ve had tons of friends borderline obsessed with these bands throughout my life. Their impact has been sizable to say the least.
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Is Gwar in?
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No, but they have been immortalized high above the rafters in the Slaughterama Dome Ring of Honor.
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Is Gwar in?
They should be since they came from space, played live from Mt Fuji, all of their escapades in Antarctica and they single handedly killed Gor Gor who was the biggest threat to society until Man Bear pig came around.
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It is also criminal that the Scorpions aren't in either.
Weird Al Yankovic is another artist who is way overdue.
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