NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward? - Page 774

mjohnatgt · 02-03-2022, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

If they don't recall everything that was sold and cancel all the sales then yeah it was a scam...

That would be against their terms of service, and would become a bigger scam to remove moments from people's accounts who got them due to TS's own/subcontracted error.

pyrexswerve · 02-03-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

That would be against their terms of service, and would become a bigger scam to remove moments from people's accounts who got them due to TS's own/subcontracted error.

Yeah, they can't take moments backs IMO. It's TS fault, not theirs. But they should be locked from accessing any/all future KD drops.

Brobocop · 02-03-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrexswerve

Yeah, they can't take moments backs IMO. It's TS fault, not theirs. But they should be locked from accessing any/all future KD drops.

Still disagree with this. Why should any user be punished for the muck up Dapper did?

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Eckstein197 · 02-03-2022, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

If they don't recall everything that was sold and cancel all the sales then yeah it was a scam... so what criminals always draw attention to the crime they're committing that's the way it works. If you say the crime out loud you sanitize it that's old school man... You do the best crimes right in front of People.

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None of the moments have been sold, the moments were still locked. So nothing has hit the marketplace

Eckstein197 · 02-03-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Still disagree with this. Why should any user be punished for the muck up Dapper did?

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You can’t take back moments

If anything they can mint totally new mgles and holos for the standard packs/distribute some of them randomly for the elite pack buyers.

rifleman69 · 02-03-2022, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Man, have the tides have turned. You used to call me a hater and all kinds of things. Now you're joining the bandwagon. Top Shot was fun but there's clearly a ceiling in terms of how many new users they can bring in. It really is a large scale version of a ponzi scheme.

It was so obvious from the start...

rifleman69 · 02-03-2022, 07:29 PM

You can easily take back moments and start again.

mjohnatgt · 02-03-2022, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

You can easily take back moments and start again.

No, you can't.

"(i) Ownership of Moment.

Because each Moment is an NFT on the Flow Network, when you purchase a Moment in accordance with these Terms (and not through any of the Category B Prohibited Activities), you own the underlying NFT completely. This means that you have the right to swap your Moment, sell it, or give it away. Ownership of the Moment is mediated entirely by the Flow Network. Except as otherwise permitted by these Terms in cases where we determine that the Moment has not been rightfully acquired from a legitimate source (including, without limitation, through any of the Category B Prohibited Activities), at no point will we seize, freeze, or otherwise modify the ownership of any Moment."
Looks like they're breaking their own rules by even locking them. But taking them back would likely lead to lawsuits.

As said above, they will likely mint new ones and send as bonuses for those that were in the drop, like they just did for UFC Strike.

Eckstein197 · 02-03-2022, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

No, you can't.

"(i) Ownership of Moment.

Because each Moment is an NFT on the Flow Network, when you purchase a Moment in accordance with these Terms (and not through any of the Category B Prohibited Activities), you own the underlying NFT completely. This means that you have the right to swap your Moment, sell it, or give it away. Ownership of the Moment is mediated entirely by the Flow Network. Except as otherwise permitted by these Terms in cases where we determine that the Moment has not been rightfully acquired from a legitimate source (including, without limitation, through any of the Category B Prohibited Activities), at no point will we seize, freeze, or otherwise modify the ownership of any Moment."
Looks like they're breaking their own rules by even locking them. But taking them back would likely lead to lawsuits.

As said above, they will likely mint new ones and send as bonuses for those that were in the drop, like they just did for UFC Strike.

Well they’re only locked because the other drop hasn’t happened. That’s not against their rules, they’ve actively have said if there’s 2 different drops for a certain type of moment, it will be locked until the completion of both drops

Eckstein197 · 02-03-2022, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

You can easily take back moments and start again.

No because that goes against their rules and the basis of crypto. The person owns that moment now. You can’t seize ownership. They’d lose all credibility of crypto people

grade · 02-03-2022, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein197

No because that goes against their rules and the basis of crypto. The person owns that moment now. You can’t seize ownership. They’d lose all credibility of crypto people

???? They seized users accounts last year.

You cannot trade freely , you cannot sell outside of the platform, the list is long on how the platform was actually centralized more than decentralized.

It is hard to really know what is happening behind closed doors and what kind of deals are made to make things look legit in the public.

Brobocop · 02-03-2022, 08:00 PM

Between this and the UFC muck up, Dapper not looking so hot anymore. I've said from the start, they are their own worst enemy and have done almost everything they can to kill the platform before it had a chance to take off.

Oh, and by the way, this was their biggest and most hyped pack launch yet. Whoops.

rms13 · 02-03-2022, 09:33 PM

They just pushed back UFC drop and marketplace again to Feb 15 to address issues

Brobocop · 02-03-2022, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rms13

They just pushed back UFC drop and marketplace again to Feb 15 to address issues

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Metssftf · 02-03-2022, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rms13

They just pushed back UFC drop and marketplace again to Feb 15 to address issues

Looks like NFL Allday is still going through tomorrow

boxbuster7 · 02-03-2022, 10:51 PM

My takeaway from the audit is the rich get richer. And that NFL all day looks a lot more intriguing.

Archangel1775 · 02-04-2022, 02:12 AM

Anyone have an Ayo Dosunmu I can borrow for the challenge? PM me if you do, it'll be temporary

Eckstein197 · 02-04-2022, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Anyone have an Ayo Dosunmu I can borrow for the challenge? PM me if you do, it'll be temporary

The fact Ayo stayed in was crazy. 3-4 guys all stuck at 7 early in the 4th quarter and the late games and no one could clutch it up

Eckstein197 · 02-04-2022, 06:56 AM

They refunded everyone from the pack drop but honestly doesn’t feel like that’s enough. Would’ve liked to see more due to the insane screw up here

Brobocop · 02-04-2022, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein197

They refunded everyone from the pack drop but honestly doesn’t feel like that’s enough. Would’ve liked to see more due to the insane screw up here

Rich get richer. Some folks got some great moments and refunds to boot. Not sure what else you can do but Dapper is run by fools.

Sold tens of millions worth of packs and made even more from the marketplace fees, still in "beta."

grade · 02-04-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Rich get richer. Some folks got some great moments and refunds to boot. Not sure what else you can do but Dapper is run by fools.

Sold tens of millions worth of packs and made even more from the marketplace fees, still in "beta."

Just thinking that. The higher CS scores bought 5-10 packs. Some even got 5 hits out of 5 packs. They now also get the Money back.

Sometimes i wonder if who ever is subcontracted/it/developed the pack random is really random at all. Seems the probability is never consistent with the odds.

grade · 02-04-2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein197

They refunded everyone from the pack drop but honestly doesn’t feel like that’s enough. Would’ve liked to see more due to the insane screw up here

Semi fair.

Meanwhile sold a
MALIK BEASLEY /40000
and
converted to
Lavine/ 500
G. Paul/500
D. Fox/ 500

TS has great utility. Having fun now

rifleman69 · 02-04-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein197

No because that goes against their rules and the basis of crypto. The person owns that moment now. You can’t seize ownership. They’d lose all credibility of crypto people

Huh? Think you may need to re-think how you view "crypto" and what TopShot is doing if you truly believe that.

You can't seize ownership, LOLOLOL

rifleman69 · 02-04-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

???? They seized users accounts last year.

You cannot trade freely , you cannot sell outside of the platform, the list is long on how the platform was actually centralized more than decentralized.

It is hard to really know what is happening behind closed doors and what kind of deals are made to make things look legit in the public.

Exactly, some people still don't get it!!

yiguiri2002 · 02-04-2022, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by grade

Semi fair.

Meanwhile sold a
MALIK BEASLEY /40000
and
converted to
Lavine/ 500
G. Paul/500
D. Fox/ 500

TS has great utility. Having fun now

Grade, are you using some kind of app or just gifting/receiving the moments in each platform?

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rifleman69 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Space Mountain Posts: 3,534	You can easily take back moments and start again.

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Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 13,817 brobocop2	Between this and the UFC muck up, Dapper not looking so hot anymore. I've said from the start, they are their own worst enemy and have done almost everything they can to kill the platform before it had a chance to take off. Oh, and by the way, this was their biggest and most hyped pack launch yet. Whoops.

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