Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

The first 3 Shores are down, first 2 Fuccis down, first 3 Ermsy down. Pretty much everything big I’m keeping an eye on is down. I keep seeing people ask which are down and saying they’re slightly up but for a few days I’ve just seen them trickle down. Heck Ermsy Williams is sprinting to the bottom. When they’re all in hand it’s going to be a blood bath. Blake McGwire is one I’ve been thinking about buying and is down ~$50 from yesterday. Idk if it’s people trying to stop the free fall or your looking at different cards than me but nothing is going up. It’s not FUD it’s facts.

The Mattingly shore actual raw PR has to be ~1,500 with Don and Keith both signing cards. It’s at $650 right now which is a lot of money... but for what it is, not a terrible buy imo. The problem is do other people interested in this card realize it’s actual PR or will it take that actual print run to make the card scarce to impact its price. The ones I hold I think will be fine, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t pass their ATH ever again. I also wouldn’t be shocked if they beat it this weekend once people get paid. But use your head. If you’re waiting for someone to get paid to buy a card.... they have no business buying the card to begin with. So the pay day talk is silly. Hoping Gary V puts eyes on this stuff with actual money is what you should hope for. Be smart buy what you like and have fun.

I'm only watching a few cards, all sub-3000 print runs, and I only checked twice today: Once this morning then once late tonight. The listing numbers for those specific cards were higher and the BINs were lower earlier in the day.
The Keith Shore Mcgwire sold for I think a low of 820 early today and then sale prices increased. The low BIN is now $1150 on ebay and there are less active listings than earlier hence my my previous response as to the market of that specific card.

I really don't study all the up & downs of each day of many P2020 cards and consider myself a collector foremost but since this has basically become a thread devoted to the $ value of these cards, I engage from time to time.
I have no issues with people making money.

The one current down from cards I'm watching is Frank Thomas Rochester, which has a low BIN 489 right now and the last sale was 425.

I don't pay any attention to perceived values of any card that haven't arrived in-hand.

[BAHoopla]

My gut tells me nothing. Don’t have the card or want it. Was curious given the above post about the trade on what the price is. But I will say that people are nervous to loose free money and selling below the lowest offer. Just have to wonder if buyers will step up. Prices across the board are falling not just here but other cards too. Look at psa 10 trout rookies last month vs now or psa 10 2012 trout heritage last month vs now (1100 to 700). Just gravity I guess what goes up comes down

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

My gut tells me nothing. Don’t have the card or want it. Was curious given the above post about the trade on what the price is. But I will say that people are nervous to loose free money and selling below the lowest offer. Just have to wonder if buyers will step up. Prices across the board are falling not just here but other cards too. Look at psa 10 trout rookies last month vs now or psa 10 2012 trout heritage last month vs now (1100 to 700). Just gravity I guess what goes up comes down

Ran out of their stimulus checks!

[ninjacookies]

FUCCI FISH SHIPPED.

[thenightman]

Double

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

I agree. I rewatched the video of him talking about it when he sold them and then tonight's live stream. Going to be big value. I may just keep mine. I like his art.

Smart move.

[coltsnsox07]

I bet some of those sellers who cancelled sales because they lost the card or never received it from someone else who bought it for them, might suddenly find the card to complete the sale now!

[redscollector24]

I really don't study all the up & downs of each day of many P2020 cards and consider myself a collector foremost but since this has basically become a thread devoted to the $ value of these cards, I engage from time to time.
I have no issues with people making money.

Gotcha, and that’s good to hear. I reread what you posted and i see what you mean. But I have seen posts saying “what’s down they’re all holding?” the last few days which I found not true. I’m not watching these like a hawk anymore because I’ve got early stuff with low PR and I think those will do best as this project continues to gain more steam.

I am in the same boat as you. I started buying end of April to collect but these morphed into something I never saw coming. I thought they’d be worth more than I was paying, but I did not see them being worth this much. I’m happy for the high print runs and some of these cards being “worthless” because I want to keep some of these for myself. High PR are great news for my sell pile and PC.

[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

FUCCI FISH SHIPPED.

You feeling the power of Hulkamania or is the power of the Ultimate Warrior flowing through your veins? (I'm a diehard wrestling fan...I wants a WWE Project 2020 set...LOL)

[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Just got this in the mail. Not sure what the Japanese says, but it looks cool. JK5 is going to be on Blakes stream so will be interested to hear him share some backstories.

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What the what?!? JK5 on Blake live? Awesome! Probably my favorite along with the fantastic artists that have graced us with their presence here (that would be, in no particular order, Blake, Tyson and efdot. Not sure if the BenBaller here is Athe REAL Ben Baller).

I have the Ichiro as well - love it! But it may have to go to help cover previous buys -

Bought 2 of the JK5 Mariano's and trying to get a Clemente.

I will admit to overpaying for a Baller Trout, Baller Henderson and Taylor Jeter. We'll see. I am attempting to hold the line.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by 21Pittsburgh58

What the what?!? JK5 on Blake live? Awesome! Probably my favorite along with the fantastic artists that have graced us with their presence here (that would be, in no particular order, Blake, Tyson and efdot. Not sure if the BenBaller here is Athe REAL Ben Baller).

I have the Ichiro as well - love it! But it may have to go to help cover previous buys -

Bought 2 of the JK5 Mariano's and trying to get a Clemente.

I will admit to overpaying for a Baller Trout, Baller Henderson and Taylor Jeter. We'll see. I am attempting to hold the line.

Blake is the #1 artist trying to push this thing into the stratosphere. God bless 'em.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Blake is the #1 artist trying to push this thing into the stratosphere. God bless 'em.

I believe it's both Baller and Blake leading the marketing push. They are both doing it in their own different way.

[katho]

[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Blake is the #1 artist trying to push this thing into the stratosphere. God bless 'em.

Blake is doing a great job and I'm appreciating how hard he's working on this project. YouTube videos of his work, inviting other artists on, Gary Vee (possibly), interview with MLB. Those cool dudes must be living on caffeine to do as much work as they are. Can't wait for Trout - I'm in for 3 and will pull the Gooooold



Spectacular effort by Blake and his crew! And Baller to like Archangel stated above

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

You feeling the power of Hulkamania or is the power of the Ultimate Warrior flowing through your veins? (I'm a diehard wrestling fan...I wants a WWE Project 2020 set...LOL)

I was all about The Ultimate Warrior when I was a kid.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Blake is the #1 artist trying to push this thing into the stratosphere. God bless 'em.

Is he the #1 artist or just the artist that has the most free time other than Project 2020?

[BurnerNotify]

Shore Gibson’s must be shipping since I see some in-hand on eBay. Haven’t heard anything from my presellers. Might be time to send out a chaser.

[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

I was all about The Ultimate Warrior when I was a kid.

Me too....Never have cared for Hogan.....Or as Warrior called him Ho Cogan!

[CardFarmer]

Originally Posted by Acid Dock

Blake just said his Trout coming out on Tuesday is a Ben Baller collaboration.

EDIT: Beaten to it

Oh no. Baller's cards are terrible. I hope he doesn't screw up Blake's style.

[TheWrightStuff]

Ok, I've got something embarrassing to admit. Oldmanalan, this whole time I've seen that name I've pronounced it in my head. old man a lan. like it rhymes. Just today I realized that its. old man Alan

[redscollector24]

Fucci Frank Thomas tomorrow �� Anyone know the other card?

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

Fucci Frank Thomas tomorrow �� Anyone know the other card?

Mister Cartoon Mattingly was teased on IG

[CardFarmer]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

So Blake bought 9% of the print run of his Henderson from Topps. Said he bought 350. Good chance he hits the 1/1.

Not really. He has a less than 10% chance.

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by CardFarmer

Not really. He has a less than 10% chance.

That's pretty good chance. You'd have to have bought 10k of the shore Griffey to get a 10% chance.

[redscollector24]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Mister Cartoon Mattingly was teased on IG

Sweeeet, those styles pair well together and will sell good into the weekend. I like it.