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Old 05-09-2024, 09:11 AM   #1876
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Gotta love 2018-19 bkb product
Luka SGA Brunson
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Old 05-09-2024, 09:34 AM   #1877
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these guys are insane









What happens to Luka's hobby momentum if he loses to OKC and Brunson takes a heavily injured team to the CF?
The clock on him really starts ticking....

But for 2018 sealed wax.... man does that start looking strong.
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Old 05-09-2024, 09:35 AM   #1878
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ba-source-says

This is losers mentality.

SEVENTY EIGHT calls? Come on.
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Old 05-09-2024, 09:35 AM   #1879
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Gotta love 2018-19 bkb product

Luka SGA Brunson









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Old 05-09-2024, 09:38 AM   #1880
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This is losers mentality.

SEVENTY EIGHT calls? Come on.
When you're the lesser team and you can't win you just cry and complain and place blame on everyone else.

Haliburton took 6 shots in game 1 but Carlisle wants to complain about missed calls lol
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Old 05-09-2024, 09:44 AM   #1881
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78 calls eh? Just pulled out my Brunson and Hart silver/holos to sell that have been sitting in boxes for years. Probably time to cash in a few Lukas and SGAs as well.
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Old 05-09-2024, 10:56 AM   #1882
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Excuse after excuse for Luka.
Time's running out for him to justify the prices people bought his cards at. If he ends up with a Dirk career arc thats 100% a failure from a bagholder perspective, even if it'd be a career most players never even sniff from a sport perspective.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:01 AM   #1883
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Time's running out for him to justify the prices people bought his cards at. If he ends up with a Dirk career arc thats 100% a failure from a bagholder perspective, even if it'd be a career most players never even sniff from a sport perspective.
Practically everyone who owns a luka card is a bagholder.

His prices will never reach their pandemic peaks again, even if he wins 3 rings.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:10 AM   #1884
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Practically everyone who owns a luka card is a bagholder.

His prices will never reach their pandemic peaks again, even if he wins 3 rings.
Unless you listened to me in 2018, then you're not a bagholder no matter what price you bought at.

Even still, you're pretty much correct.

Luka, no matter how many rings he wins, will never live up to the pandemic prices people were paying
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:11 AM   #1885
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Here’s the article that does the deep dive into whether Luka might just be an amazing stats guy, but may never translate to something more. https://www.theringer.com/2024/5/8/2...a-city-thunder
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:26 AM   #1886
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Unless you listened to me in 2018, then you're not a bagholder no matter what price you bought at.

Even still, you're pretty much correct.

Luka, no matter how many rings he wins, will never live up to the pandemic prices people were paying
Pretty much no player who had some following at the time will live up to that.

It's funny thought seeing people on the Luka doom train when he just completed his best season yet and just turned 25.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:26 AM   #1887
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Practically everyone who owns a luka card is a bagholder.

His prices will never reach their pandemic peaks again, even if he wins 3 rings.
Hey they just have to move their stock into Ant to catch the next nonsensical fomo wave and not be left holding when the bottom falls out on him too.

"He's Jordan 2.0!" Lol

I dont think this will happen but imagine how f'd the guys buying 1600 dollar silver prizms would be if OKC swept/gentleman's swept the Wolves.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:28 AM   #1888
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Here’s the article that does the deep dive into whether Luka might just be an amazing stats guy, but may never translate to something more. https://www.theringer.com/2024/5/8/2...a-city-thunder
Pretty much what I thought about it being total nonsense.

On/Off numbers aren't something you can look at independently and draw any conclusion from

Luka, this year at a +11.9 on/off... positive on both the offensive and defensive end. That's 96th percentile in the league.

+8.4 on offense and -3.5 on defense.

That accounts for an estimated 28 wins.

You can say a lot of things about Luka, the complaining, the lack of consistent defensive effort, etc... but you definitely can't say he doesn't add to winning basketball. The Mavs would be the worst team in the league if you swapped Luka out for an average PG
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:37 AM   #1889
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Unless you listened to me in 2018, then you're not a bagholder no matter what price you bought at.

Even still, you're pretty much correct.

Luka, no matter how many rings he wins, will never live up to the pandemic prices people were paying

The 2018-19 class is the class that just keeps giving.

At release: Ayton!
During rookie year: Luka! Trae!
Years 1-3: Luka! Trae! MPJ! SGA! Bridges (x2)! JJJ! Simmons! Sexton! Graham!
Years 4+: Luka! SGA! Brunson! (Still a little MPJ, Trae, Simmons)

I ripped so much 2018-19 product and I've been able to sell players in multiple waves while still keeping my favorite Luka cards as a collector.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:38 AM   #1890
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You just reminded me of the MPJ hype

Man those pandemic pumps were insane. People on here calling MPJ the next KD lol
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:51 AM   #1891
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You just reminded me of the MPJ hype

Man those pandemic pumps were insane. People on here calling MPJ the next KD lol
Pretty sure I sold some MPJ base prizms for $40. I think Tyler Herro was selling for like $50 too. Both are under a buck now. WOOOOWWW!!!!

Edit...MJP sold for $75!!! Holy moly. I am guessing they went higher than mine did. I always sell low if I can.
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Old 05-09-2024, 11:52 AM   #1892
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Pretty sure I sold some MPJ base prizms for $40. I think Tyler Herro was selling for like $50 too. Both are under a buck now. WOOOOWWW!!!!
What about his 2nd year Prizm? That thing was going crazy for a while too.
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Paging Dnic. I know that dude took a BATH on MPJ lol
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Hey they just have to move their stock into Ant to catch the next nonsensical fomo wave and not be left holding when the bottom falls out on him too.

"He's Jordan 2.0!" Lol

I dont think this will happen but imagine how f'd the guys buying 1600 dollar silver prizms would be if OKC swept/gentleman's swept the Wolves.
Investor bois gotta invest!
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Old 05-09-2024, 12:01 PM   #1895
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Carlisle says they are small market and get no calls. Sumbmitted 78 missed calls to the league. Soft af. Be happy you're still even playing after your 1st round bye against a broken team.

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Old 05-09-2024, 12:01 PM   #1896
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Old 05-09-2024, 01:56 PM   #1897
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Luka this season: 33.9ppg, 9.2rpg & 9.8apg.

Joins LeBron James (2006) as the only players in NBA history to average at least 30/7/6 on a 50-win team and not win MVP.

Also for those that keep saying Luka is not a winner or just Melo 2.0 please see below. He has won lots just not an NBA championship yet.

Basketball is global not just the NBA.
Luka is a Basketball HOFer if he retired today!

5× NBA All-Star (2020–2024)
4× All-NBA First Team (2020–2023)
NBA Rookie of the Year (2019)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2019)
NBA scoring champion (2024)
FIBA World Cup Top Scorer (2023)
All-FIBA World Cup Team (2023)
Olympics All-Star Team (2020)
All-EuroBasket Team (2017)
EuroLeague champion (2018)
EuroLeague MVP (2018)

EuroLeague Final Four MVP (2018)
All-EuroLeague First Team (2018)
2× EuroLeague Rising Star (2017, 2018)
EuroLeague 2010–20 All-Decade Team (2020)
Euroscar Player of the Year (2019)
3× Liga ACB champion (2015, 2016, 2018)
Liga ACB MVP (2018)

All-Liga ACB First Team (2018)
2× ACB Best Young Player (2017, 2018)
3× ACB All-Young Players Team (2016–2018)
2× Spanish King's Cup winner (2016, 2017)
2× Trofeo Costa de Sol champion (2016, 2017)
FIBA Intercontinental Cup champion (2015)
EB Next Generation Tournament champion (2015)
EB Next Generation Tournament MVP (2015)

Sports Illustrated Breakout of the Year (2019)
Slovenian Sportsman of the Year (2018)

Regular NBA season
First teenager to record four career triple-doubles in NBA history.[294]
Broke Jason Kidd's Mavericks franchise record (21) of most triple-doubles with 22 in just 122 NBA games.[295]
Most triple-doubles in a season (17) before turning 22 years old (2019–20 season). Previously held by Ben Simmons (12 in 2017–18).[294]
Youngest player in NBA history to lead the league outright in triple-doubles (21 years, 168 days old). Previously held by Magic Johnson.[296]
Twenty straight games with at least 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists, the most since the 1976–77 ABA–NBA merger. Previously held by Michael Jordan with 18 consecutive games.[297]
First player since Tim Duncan to be selected to All-NBA First Team in a player's first or second season.[148]
First player to lead his team outright in points, rebounds and assists in each of first three games of season.[298]
Second-fewest games played to record 35 career triple-doubles (190). Previously held by Magic Johnson (204).[299]
Third-fewest games played to reach 4,000 career points since the ABA–NBA merger (Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neal).[147]

First player in NBA history to record:
a 60-point, 20 rebound triple-double (60 points, 21 rebounds, 10 assists).[300]
250 points, 50 rebounds, and 50 assists in a five game span.[301]
a 50-point triple-double average over a two game span.[236]
a 30-point triple-double (35 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists) as a teenager.[302]
two triple-doubles before the age of 20.[303]
a 35-point triple-double in a game with 26 minutes or fewer played (35 points, 10 rebounds, and 11 assists in 25:30).[304]
30+ points, 10+ rebounds, and 15+ assists in a game with 30 minutes or fewer played (31 points, 12 rebounds, and 15 assists in 30:05).[305]
36+ points, 14+ rebounds, and 19+ assists in a game (regular season or playoffs).[294]
multiple 30-point triple-doubles in games with 30 minutes or fewer played.[306]
multiple 40-point triple-doubles before turning 21 years old.[307]
over 20 career triple-doubles at age 21 or younger.[294]
ten career 35-point triple-doubles before turning 22 years old.[294]
200+ points, 50+ rebounds, and 50+ assists through the first six games of a season.[188]
a 25-point triple double entering halftime (29 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists).[308]
six consecutive 30-point triple-doubles.[309]
five consecutive 35-point triple-doubles.[310]
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Old 05-09-2024, 01:57 PM   #1898
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Lotta words used to be wrongo.
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Old 05-09-2024, 02:22 PM   #1899
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Nobody will care about any of that without rings unfortunately. He'd just fall into the Iverson, Carmello, Malone, Harden, Paul, Barkley, Russ realm of the hobby. Undoubtedly he'd have a niche, but a 5-6 figure RPA niche? A 4 figure silver prizm niche? Absolutely not.

If he becomes the best player of all time to never win a ring he's just the Dan Marino of the NBA. Marino has collectors, but look at his cards compared to Manning, Brady, Montana level guys. Luka's cards are priced like he's the second coming of MJ.

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And yet the Mavs are still in it to win it.
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