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[6GOAT789]

Speaking of /10, just for fun….it’s easy to make cards of a player that has already accomplished everything. Doesn’t he have valuable /10 2013 gold prizms? He was already in the HOF in 2013 lol.

Marc Bulger, on the front of the 2000 round numbers/brady on the back, has no nfl cards from 2013, because why would they make them of a nobody?

If someone tries to say he wasn’t playing any longer, I don’t see how that’s relevant since there are way newer cards of say Joe Montana lol, among plenty of other guys who are no longer playing/haven’t for a while. Might be made of a “bigger” name, but that’s what I mean. Easy to make of guys who already accomplished a lot. Compared to the hundreds of players who never did anything who will never have cards made of them now

That should be why the biggest $ is in the rookies, despite something low numbered made way after the fact

Or like those Kaboom or Downtown cards. Ridiculous looking and despite being on the newer side, they can get crazy expensive because of a low number. Imagine paying a ton for a recent Brady card lol

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

Just do what I suggested above and the comments go away....or at least you won't see them. It's pointless to keep engaging. Some people will never admit to being wrong and are incapable of broadening their conceptual framework.

Yeah thanks, I wanted to do that a long time ago. I didn't realize you had to manually type it into that list, I was looking for a button.

All I'll say is that guy has been baiting people into brain-dead arguments for at least 5 months, I'm pretty sure he got another guy here banned although he was a bit of a nutcase himself. Better to not see that slop and bait 24/7.

[daveyc1]

there is a fake (most likely) 2000 BC refractor on the bay. it is a "gem grading" Gem Mint 10.

it is at $1,750.00. I sure hope noone gets taken on this one.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah thanks, I wanted to do that a long time ago. I didn't realize you had to manually type it into that list, I was looking for a button.

All I'll say is that guy has been baiting people into brain-dead arguments for at least 5 months, I'm pretty sure he got another guy here banned although he was a bit of a nutcase himself. Better to not see that slop and bait 24/7.

That dude was an idiot, but sure blame me for all of his dumb comments

He was going back and forth with everyone

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah thanks, I wanted to do that a long time ago. I didn't realize you had to manually type it into that list, I was looking for a button.

All I'll say is that guy has been baiting people into brain-dead arguments for at least 5 months, I'm pretty sure he got another guy here banned although he was a bit of a nutcase himself. Better to not see that slop and bait 24/7.

Just click on their name - view public profile - click User Lists under their name - Add to Ignore

[6GOAT789]

Just over $2,100 with under 5 days left for a showcase firsts /250 BGS 7

Pats uniform, /250, super nice card

What’s the highest you would pay for it?

Cards like that seem like they should way more than they do, going by recent sales of that card

[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

there is a fake (most likely) 2000 BC refractor on the bay. it is a "gem grading" Gem Mint 10.

it is at $1,750.00. I sure hope noone gets taken on this one.

Wait there is a take on eBay? Graded legitimately?


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[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Wait there is a take on eBay? Graded legitimately?


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It’s the one graded by Gem grading. I wouldn’t really consider them a legitimate grading company. It’s a pretty obvious fake but to an unsuspecting newby it could easy trick them.

Multiple copies of that fake seemed to be circulating around eBay a while back and I thought they’d been taken care of. Unfortunately it seems to be back

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Tonic3

It’s the one graded by Gem grading. I wouldn’t really consider them a legitimate grading company. It’s a pretty obvious fake but to an unsuspecting newby it could easy trick them.

Multiple copies of that fake seemed to be circulating around eBay a while back and I thought they’d been taken care of. Unfortunately it seems to be back

Is that card covered by authenticity guarantee?

What happens then?

Do they verify if it’s a real or fake card or just verify that it’s slabbed as listed?

[6GOAT789]

I see the card

No authenticity guarantee and lmao how the slab says “PSA” at the bottom in the middle

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Is that card covered by authenticity guarantee?

What happens then?

Do they verify if it’s a real or fake card or just verify that it’s slabbed as listed?

Yes, it is a "fake" grading company. back in the late 90s-early 00's there were tons of these. maybe even dozens. guys were getting machines and slabbing cards in their basements.

I just hope that no one actually pays for this "card"

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Yes, it is a "fake" grading company. back in the late 90s-early 00's there were tons of these. maybe even dozens. guys were getting machines and slabbing cards in their basements.

I just hope that no one actually pays for this "card"

At authenticity guarantee, what would happen?

Would it get sent out if the item matches the description? Or do they evaluate the card itself and not send it if they determine it’s fake?

This one doesn’t have it, but I’ve seen ones that do where it’s either a fake card or shady grading company

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

At authenticity guarantee, what would happen?

Would it get sent out if the item matches the description? Or do they evaluate the card itself and not send it if they determine it’s fake?

This one doesn’t have it, but I’ve seen ones that do where it’s either a fake card or shady grading company

I think authenticity guarantee only looks at the cards description and if the slab itself is intact/Authentic. Ie. Not a fake PSA slab for example. I dont know how they handle of brand grading companies

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[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Yes, it is a "fake" grading company. back in the late 90s-early 00's there were tons of these. maybe even dozens. guys were getting machines and slabbing cards in their basements.

I just hope that no one actually pays for this "card"

I want to buy a Brady rookie auto but nervous because there are so many fakes


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[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

I want to buy a Brady rookie auto but nervous because there are so many fakes


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Definitely don’t buy from a sketchy grading company

Main 3 are PSA, BGS and SGC, where you can type in the number/look it up

You should be safe with those 3 since you can look at the auto and see that it matches up exactly/is the same card

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

I want to buy a Brady rookie auto but nervous because there are so many fakes


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Should be fine with PSA/BGS. Only problem is if it is a higher grade, there's a good chance it was trimmed (especially if it's Metal or Ionix)

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Should be fine with PSA/BGS. Only problem is if it is a higher grade, there's a good chance it was trimmed (especially if it's Metal or Ionix)

Genuine question, do you think it was trimmed if the company doesn’t have it as trimmed? Such as a metal or Ionix 9.5, with no mention of trimming. Or do you mean the grading company has a high chance of saying it was trimmed?

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Genuine question, do you think it was trimmed if the company doesn’t have it as trimmed? Such as a metal or Ionix 9.5, with no mention of trimming. Or do you mean the grading company has a high chance of saying it was trimmed?

back around 2018 or 2019 if memory serves, there was a MAJOR trimming scandal that was unearthed. it encompassed every single area of the hobby, modern and vintage. the technology used was pretty insane and they could even replicate the factory edges/cuts from vintage releases. this was previously thought impossible. the trimmers were so good that even the big 3 grading companies could not tell for the most part.

There were members here on Blowout called BODA (blowout detective agency) who researched grading submissions by known trimmers so they could often times see before and after images of cards that had been trimmed, in PSA/BGS/SGC holders. they had a number of dealers implicated in it, among them was big time buyer/seller and former NFL player Evan Mathis. It was a HUGE scandal for about a year or so, and then, crickets...

covid came, a bunch of new folks entered the hobby and the whole thing was seemingly swept under the rug.

this is the reason I am no longer infatuated with high grade examples of Brady rookies. SOOOOO many of the PSA 10's/9s etc. are in fact, trimmed. I feel that grades of 8 and under seem safer. not for sure, but it seems that way to me.

there are some old threads here on BO that give you the whole rundown. they are very long, but riveting reads. it will probably change the way you view high grades and the hobby in general.

Ionix and Metal were two examples of Brady cards for whom there was a very high percentage of trimmed examples. but any of them are suspect.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Definitely don’t buy from a sketchy grading company

Main 3 are PSA, BGS and SGC, where you can type in the number/look it up

You should be safe with those 3 since you can look at the auto and see that it matches up exactly/is the same card

I wounldnt be worried buying a pack pulled auto that is graded by one of the big 3. the likelyhood of a fake/counterfeit would be very very small.

I am slightly less confident about the aftermarket rookie autos, but I think you are still very safe purchasing a PSA/BGS authenticated copy.

[Tea10]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

I want to buy a Brady rookie auto but nervous because there are so many fakes


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I would recommend two options to maximize the probability of it being real. The first has already been suggested and is obvious but:

1. Buy a "pack pulled" Fleer Autographics, Press Pass, Score, or Pacific auto. Graded by any major grading company, PSA/BGS/SGC specifically, it's going to be real in 99% of cases. Look at the auto yourself too if you want and compare.

2. The "TB12 Collection" marketing promo with PSA. Whatever you want to think about it, this effectively is like a two factor authentication on the auto. Brady is working directly with PSA to sign these cards, they're allegedly from his collection (could be, but probably sent to him by PSA). He signs them, PSA puts a pedigree and grades them.

So unless PSA and Tom Brady are creating fraud in a collaboration, they're probably the safest bet for the auto being real. It's the TB12 auto vs his old full auto, but you can probably get one of the cheapest for 1.5-1.7k range. Cheaper than 2000 pack pulled from what I've seen. For reference, I bought an SpX Proof inscribed of this variety for 5.3k. Sold it for 9.5k later on. And I bought a Fleer Tradition Brady auto in this form for 1.5k. I think there is a Glossy up now, they seem to be putting up an Ionix, SpX, Fleer Tradition, UD Encore, SB Ticket, etc every week. 2-4 items go up per week so, yeah I have my concerns about Brady signing a lot moving forward as well.

[daveyc1]

What Tea10 just said ^^^^^^^^^^

pack pulled graded and TB12 collection graded should be good to go!

[Jeter1020]

Thanks for the help guys!


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[daveyc1]

Another strong Contenders sale,

Fanatics just sold a PSA 7 copy with no auto grade for $28,200.00 on Nov. 9th. it got 60 bids.

If you check out the card you can see why the submitter opted for card grade only and no auto grade. It is a very weak auto. with a better auto, that card easily would have gone for more than $30,000, considering a PSA authentic with 10 auto sold for $23,000 at the end of October.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Another strong Contenders sale,

Fanatics just sold a PSA 7 copy with no auto grade for $28,200.00 on Nov. 9th. it got 60 bids.

If you check out the card you can see why the submitter opted for card grade only and no auto grade. It is a very weak auto. with a better auto, that card easily would have gone for more than $30,000, considering a PSA authentic with 10 auto sold for $23,000 at the end of October.

Just wondering if you think the high bids is a way to make it look idk, more desirable or something in a way?

I know with snype (and others) they count each bid increment

If someone bids $500 as their first bid, and someone else bids $600 as their first bid. Instead of being 2 bids, one $500 and the leader at $525 or whatever the increment is, just those two peoples first bids would show as like 25 bids or however many. Each increment, it would show each person having a bid of $30, other person $35, other $40 etc despite them not making those small bids

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Just wondering if you think the high bids is a way to make it look idk, more desirable or something in a way?

I know with snype (and others) they count each bid increment

If someone bids $500 as their first bid, and someone else bids $600 as their first bid. Instead of being 2 bids, one $500 and the leader at $525 or whatever the increment is, just those two peoples first bids would show as like 25 bids or however many. Each increment, it would show each person having a bid of $30, other person $35, other $40 etc despite them not making those small bids

Honestly, I was too lazy to look and see how many unique bidders there were. the more bidders, the more interest in an item, usually. 60 bids looks like more action than say 5 or 6