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BrothBerger22 · 08-23-2024, 11:49 AM

How have the Piggybanx cards maintained such a high trading price?

Easy, they use a lot of shady people, to pump and produce fake sales.

Then Piggyskankz finds out who is collecting what set, and has one of his "influencers" identify the piece, and he supplies them so they can make the sale.

He recently reprinted an old set for a high paying customer. Nothing is sacred to this guy.

I can rattle off a list of his influencers and funnel guys; RATEDBOOKIE, SAUCEII, PALERMOPULSTRE, ON AND ON... It's all such a scam.

Worse than the typical PMG pumping.

pcptrade · 09-04-2024, 06:54 PM

How are the sports card indices doing? Up or down?

boxbuster7 · 09-04-2024, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

How are the sports card indices doing? Up or down?

It is hard to say overall - seems to me like a few players/sets are doing well and everything else is kind of meh

Nomad · 09-04-2024, 07:46 PM

It's a golden time of collecting. so many uninformed collectors going for the few recognized names en masse and forgetting principles of rarity and set building. Look at the Burbank price as what something should be worth and exploit the gap.

ninjabum87 · 09-04-2024, 08:54 PM

Whats the burbank lowdown on nesmith tendies?

Nomad · 09-04-2024, 10:26 PM

I dunno but I picked up a /8 Green Scope Prizm RC for twennie six. while Burbank listed a blue cracked ice /125 for $225. Last example I can think of.

I thought this was batstool crazy, but then realized they were pricing ahead. Once the other seven scopes are gone, the /125 begins to look like a tendie.

Changing of the guard, man....

Just watching through the Knicks-Pacers series again. If you can believe it, both Brunson and OG took themselves out of game 2 trying wrong moves against Double A. Yeah, they actually left the court a few minutes later, with the announcers scratching their heads.... You could call Nesmith a menace, but they ran into him.

Interesting too to watch OG in that game. Respect. If he had stayed healthy and not needed to do all the work on both sides of the floor, I think Knicks would have won the series.

Nomad · 09-05-2024, 02:25 AM

I don't mean that as a compliment or approval by the way. Just as wars have a way of expanding based on inertia alone. First Kiev and then Moscow. Eventually the peripheries. Which no one wants. Not even those financing them.

So too does disrespect on the court engender disrespect. The first game was hard fought but, except for the "sympathy blocking foul" call, clean. It was a truly amazing ending. Best overall game I've seen since the Warriors earned their first ring. prime Anunoby, prime Nesmith. Haliburton and Nembhard doing their thing. Obi under-the-leg strong. Di Vincenzo. Hartenstein.

But the Knicks realized that they had been given a total reprieve by the refs. As the NY number 2, they needed to cleanly beat number 6. Whole networks were counting on it. So the Knicks came out the next game and made it physical. And once you start doing that, people get in "tough guy" mode. When your guy gets hurt you look to pay back.

Nesmith took a couple hard hits and wound up down for 20 seconds on one play. Same level as what Knicks endured, probably more. They went for the same shin area again. But because he has a really strong will, he did get up and play heart out the last five. Which Brunson also, coming back from a foot injury, did and to his credit won the game. The next game they gave Nesmith the primary Bruh guarding assignment and the rest, as they say, is history.

I can move this revisionist dreck, will wait for Brad James to remind me.

Nomad · 09-05-2024, 04:41 PM

Seems like Dyson Daniels is picking up a little buzz. Yeah, I came to this SI article because of its references to Nesmith, but I think the points transcend it. Anyone seen Daniels' play with Pels?

"I think the idealized version of Daniels is a really good fit in Atlanta next to Trae Young. He gives them size in the backcourt and he is terrific defending on the ball if he can shoot and that is the big question mark. He did not make really any progress, was still at 31% last season. He has been working with maybe the best at this point, shot doctor in the league and Fred Vinson with the Pelicans coaching staff. The fact that they were not convinced he could go with shooters may be a little bit of a concern for me and I think that is interesting because guys who get traded on their rookie contracts is valued, like not buy low trade, but he was hypothetically along with the pick they got, part of the value in return for Dejounte Murray. I don't feel like the track record of those guys is that good.

Aaron Nesmith is someone you could say succeeded in this in Indiana. Nickeil Alexander-Walker eventually took a little while. But the last guy who got traded before the last year of a rookie contract who really hit big on his next team I think is Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and that is obviously pie in the sky.

We are not talking about that with Dyson Daniels. Whereas you can look at RJ Hampton when he was in the Aaron Gordon trade, Romeo Langford, part of the Derrick White trade, Cam Reddish going for a first round pick, Dennis Smith Jr, Landry Shamet. They don't usually turn out that well when the other team is trading you early in your career, it is probably because they know something that the rest of the league does not. I am curious to see how that is going to play out with Dyson Daniels."

hermanotarjeta · 09-06-2024, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

How are the sports card indices doing? Up or down?

Everyone is 3% poorer today, less money for sports cards!

tjforce · 09-06-2024, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Everyone is 3% poorer today, less money for sports cards!

Nah...

House across the street sold today for well above asking...

More equity for me to borrow against to load up on Tyler Herro Kabooms!

boxbuster7 · 09-06-2024, 03:23 PM

Just spent $.23 cents on Dyson Daniels RCs

you better be right Nomad

cms11 · 09-06-2024, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

A lot of that job growth is part time jobs being taken up by people with other part time jobs. Labor force participation is very low, there are 10s of millions of working age people not officially working.

Only 5.7 million without jobs say they want a job. A majority of those haven't looked for a job in the past year. Only 2 million have even looked for a job in the past year.

95% of the people not working are retired.

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea38.htm

Nomad · 09-06-2024, 04:00 PM

Go hard on the multi-sport errors.

source: Facebook, which is getting more spurious by the minute.

towerymt · 09-07-2024, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

Go hard on the multi-sport errors.

source: Facebook, which is getting more spurious by the minute.

Same as it ever was
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1595595

jova888 · 09-07-2024, 04:32 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23573264273...Wqua5ZA&edge=0

Wow! I wonder how many Championships Wemby has already won? This card more than Lebron RC..

ninjabum87 · 09-07-2024, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jova888

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23573264273...Wqua5ZA&edge=0

Wow! I wonder how many Championships Wemby has already won? This card more than Lebron RC..

Here's how the psychology works.

"Oh ma gawd, just imagine if he was better than Lebron tho.... PCPtrade and TJForce will dap me up so hard in 15 years if that happens and I post this card to blowout.....should I do it? Fk it, of course I should."

-The mind of a degenerate rookie prospector, circa '24

Nomad · 09-07-2024, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Same as it ever was
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1595595

The convergence of unchecked checklist and 60s' era Batman blew my mind.

natbornkiller · 09-07-2024, 06:23 PM

after watching a what not show where people were paying $200- 300+ a pack with no problem lebron chasing and getting $5 bucks worth i would say no

Starman101 · 09-08-2024, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

How are the sports card indices doing? Up or down?

With the Geoff Wilson PSA 8 Star 101 sale for 244k I'm sure the indices are doing just fine

Since you've mentioned many times you are only in the hobby for money I thought you'd be impressed with the profit margin

People are questioning the sale but I honestly don't like the constant negativity or jealousy Geoff Wilson is being subjected to all over social media

We are all in this hobby for the community together as the hobby continues to grow

Torro · 09-09-2024, 07:17 AM

MJ high end doing pretty well, seems even Kobe has found a floor, and the high end stuff is showing some positive movement. It seems that the interest is there, just the middle class still taking a hit from the macro and trying to survive. But people havent left the hobby through this +3 year declining market like many thought, just the disposable income is not there for the majority to pull the trigger (at least for the middle class, while wealthy people who are not impacted by the macro as much are biding/fighting over ultra rare stuff).

Brazenways · 09-09-2024, 09:12 AM

Textbook k-shape trajectory. Which makes you wonder which demographic has more collectors and/or greater fools.

Nomad · 09-09-2024, 01:13 PM

had to look this up: "A K-shaped recovery is when one sector of the economy rebounds from a recession, and another sector of the economy continues to decline during a recession. A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries due to the development of new industries and technologies during the recession."

So you are saying the old GOAT sector rebounds while the non-Wemby recent card segment continues to decline?

A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries (old GOAT?) due to the development of new industries and technologies (changing of guard with a team other than Boston?)."

This season should be fun. Buckle up.

textbook k-pop to k-ration trajectory, if you ask me.

(Yeah, I know Nesmith ain't going anywhere. Would take another year for him to surpass even Mathurin and Nembhard on defense-discounted NBA 2K, where most collectors get their information).

drobfan8 · 09-09-2024, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starman101

With the Geoff Wilson PSA 8 Star 101 sale for 244k I'm sure the indices are doing just fine

Since you've mentioned many times you are only in the hobby for money I thought you'd be impressed with the profit margin

People are questioning the sale but I honestly don't like the constant negativity or jealousy Geoff Wilson is being subjected to all over social media

We are all in this hobby for the community together as the hobby continues to grow

Wasn't it shown that wasn't even his card that sold?

kipgen · 09-09-2024, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad

had to look this up: "A K-shaped recovery is when one sector of the economy rebounds from a recession, and another sector of the economy continues to decline during a recession. A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries due to the development of new industries and technologies during the recession."

So you are saying the old GOAT sector rebounds while the non-Wemby recent card segment continues to decline?

A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries (old GOAT?) due to the development of new industries and technologies (changing of guard with a team other than Boston?)."

This season should be fun. Buckle up.

textbook k-pop to k-ration trajectory, if you ask me.

(Yeah, I know Nesmith ain't going anywhere. Would take another year for him to surpass even Mathurin and Nembhard on defense-discounted NBA 2K, where most collectors get their information).

First of all (not saying you're saying this btw just a general statement) I think it's silly to say "ultra modern is in decline! sell while you can! (except for this one player whose cards are to the moon)" especially because you can look at other ultra modern cards like antman, luka, tatum, etc you can see their cards are still doing very well

Second, why is the implication that in order for one section to do well, the other has to collapse or decline? According to the cardladder indices both modern and vintage are up, not one up and one down

GOATMJ · 09-09-2024, 06:55 PM

I wouldn't touch the 84 Star with a 10ft pole.

09-04-2024, 06:54 PM	#1802
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09-04-2024, 07:46 PM	#1804
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	It's a golden time of collecting. so many uninformed collectors going for the few recognized names en masse and forgetting principles of rarity and set building. Look at the Burbank price as what something should be worth and exploit the gap. __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low.

09-04-2024, 10:26 PM	#1806
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	I dunno but I picked up a /8 Green Scope Prizm RC for twennie six. while Burbank listed a blue cracked ice /125 for $225. Last example I can think of. I thought this was batstool crazy, but then realized they were pricing ahead. Once the other seven scopes are gone, the /125 begins to look like a tendie. Changing of the guard, man.... Just watching through the Knicks-Pacers series again. If you can believe it, both Brunson and OG took themselves out of game 2 trying wrong moves against Double A. Yeah, they actually left the court a few minutes later, with the announcers scratching their heads.... You could call Nesmith a menace, but they ran into him. Interesting too to watch OG in that game. Respect. If he had stayed healthy and not needed to do all the work on both sides of the floor, I think Knicks would have won the series. __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Last edited by Nomad; 09-04-2024 at 10:53 PM.

09-05-2024, 02:25 AM	#1807
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	I don't mean that as a compliment or approval by the way. Just as wars have a way of expanding based on inertia alone. First Kiev and then Moscow. Eventually the peripheries. Which no one wants. Not even those financing them. So too does disrespect on the court engender disrespect. The first game was hard fought but, except for the "sympathy blocking foul" call, clean. It was a truly amazing ending. Best overall game I've seen since the Warriors earned their first ring. prime Anunoby, prime Nesmith. Haliburton and Nembhard doing their thing. Obi under-the-leg strong. Di Vincenzo. Hartenstein. But the Knicks realized that they had been given a total reprieve by the refs. As the NY number 2, they needed to cleanly beat number 6. Whole networks were counting on it. So the Knicks came out the next game and made it physical. And once you start doing that, people get in "tough guy" mode. When your guy gets hurt you look to pay back. Nesmith took a couple hard hits and wound up down for 20 seconds on one play. Same level as what Knicks endured, probably more. They went for the same shin area again. But because he has a really strong will, he did get up and play heart out the last five. Which Brunson also, coming back from a foot injury, did and to his credit won the game. The next game they gave Nesmith the primary Bruh guarding assignment and the rest, as they say, is history. I can move this revisionist dreck, will wait for Brad James to remind me. __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Last edited by Nomad; 09-05-2024 at 02:38 AM.

09-05-2024, 04:41 PM	#1808
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	Seems like Dyson Daniels is picking up a little buzz. Yeah, I came to this SI article because of its references to Nesmith, but I think the points transcend it. Anyone seen Daniels' play with Pels? "I think the idealized version of Daniels is a really good fit in Atlanta next to Trae Young. He gives them size in the backcourt and he is terrific defending on the ball if he can shoot and that is the big question mark. He did not make really any progress, was still at 31% last season. He has been working with maybe the best at this point, shot doctor in the league and Fred Vinson with the Pelicans coaching staff. The fact that they were not convinced he could go with shooters may be a little bit of a concern for me and I think that is interesting because guys who get traded on their rookie contracts is valued, like not buy low trade, but he was hypothetically along with the pick they got, part of the value in return for Dejounte Murray. I don't feel like the track record of those guys is that good. Aaron Nesmith is someone you could say succeeded in this in Indiana. Nickeil Alexander-Walker eventually took a little while. But the last guy who got traded before the last year of a rookie contract who really hit big on his next team I think is Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and that is obviously pie in the sky. We are not talking about that with Dyson Daniels. Whereas you can look at RJ Hampton when he was in the Aaron Gordon trade, Romeo Langford, part of the Derrick White trade, Cam Reddish going for a first round pick, Dennis Smith Jr, Landry Shamet. They don't usually turn out that well when the other team is trading you early in your career, it is probably because they know something that the rest of the league does not. I am curious to see how that is going to play out with Dyson Daniels." __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low.

08-23-2024, 11:49 AM	#1801
BrothBerger22 Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 27	How have the Piggybanx cards maintained such a high trading price? Easy, they use a lot of shady people, to pump and produce fake sales. Then Piggyskankz finds out who is collecting what set, and has one of his "influencers" identify the piece, and he supplies them so they can make the sale. He recently reprinted an old set for a high paying customer. Nothing is sacred to this guy. I can rattle off a list of his influencers and funnel guys; RATEDBOOKIE, SAUCEII, PALERMOPULSTRE, ON AND ON... It's all such a scam. Worse than the typical PMG pumping.

09-04-2024, 08:54 PM	#1805
ninjabum87 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 2,215	Whats the burbank lowdown on nesmith tendies?

09-06-2024, 03:23 PM	#1811
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,040 boxbuster777	Just spent $.23 cents on Dyson Daniels RCs you better be right Nomad __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

09-06-2024, 04:00 PM	#1813
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	Go hard on the multi-sport errors. source: Facebook, which is getting more spurious by the minute. __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low.

09-07-2024, 04:32 PM	#1815
jova888 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: California Posts: 806	https://www.ebay.com/itm/23573264273...Wqua5ZA&edge=0 Wow! I wonder how many Championships Wemby has already won? This card more than Lebron RC..

09-07-2024, 06:23 PM	#1818
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,801	after watching a what not show where people were paying $200- 300+ a pack with no problem lebron chasing and getting $5 bucks worth i would say no __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit: Last edited by natbornkiller; 09-07-2024 at 06:29 PM.

09-09-2024, 07:17 AM	#1820
Torro Member Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: EU Posts: 371	MJ high end doing pretty well, seems even Kobe has found a floor, and the high end stuff is showing some positive movement. It seems that the interest is there, just the middle class still taking a hit from the macro and trying to survive. But people havent left the hobby through this +3 year declining market like many thought, just the disposable income is not there for the majority to pull the trigger (at least for the middle class, while wealthy people who are not impacted by the macro as much are biding/fighting over ultra rare stuff).

09-09-2024, 09:12 AM	#1821
Brazenways Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 319 brazenways	Textbook k-shape trajectory. Which makes you wonder which demographic has more collectors and/or greater fools.

09-09-2024, 01:13 PM	#1822
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	had to look this up: "A K-shaped recovery is when one sector of the economy rebounds from a recession, and another sector of the economy continues to decline during a recession. A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries due to the development of new industries and technologies during the recession." So you are saying the old GOAT sector rebounds while the non-Wemby recent card segment continues to decline? A K-shaped recovery is possible due to the creative destruction of old industries (old GOAT?) due to the development of new industries and technologies (changing of guard with a team other than Boston?)." This season should be fun. Buckle up. textbook k-pop to k-ration trajectory, if you ask me. (Yeah, I know Nesmith ain't going anywhere. Would take another year for him to surpass even Mathurin and Nembhard on defense-discounted NBA 2K, where most collectors get their information). __________________ Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Last edited by Nomad; 09-09-2024 at 01:21 PM.

09-09-2024, 06:55 PM	#1825
GOATMJ Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 421	I wouldn't touch the 84 Star with a 10ft pole.