Luka Doncic Questionable Autograph Analysis

[beavers]

Originally Posted by cypher

Your Contenders Optic autos don't help you. Imagine thinking Luka would sign thousands of stickers with an identical signature. It's obvious he had someone else sign those stickers. No matter how many cards he can sign "LuLu" will prove those fake feminine signatures. Notice how Panini is only having Luka sign on card because they already know he will forge stickers. Hey guys 20 year old Luka got stick of signing and had thousands of stickers signed with a perfect LuLu. He's capable of that despite not being able to sign 2 in person autographs the same.

Really bad take. There is hardly a clear thought in there. But you do you.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by cypher

Your Contenders Optic autos don't help you. Imagine thinking Luka would sign thousands of stickers with an identical signature. It's obvious he had someone else sign those stickers. No matter how many cards he can sign "LuLu" will prove those fake feminine signatures. Notice how Panini is only having Luka sign on card because they already know he will forge stickers. Hey guys 20 year old Luka got stick of signing and had thousands of stickers signed with a perfect LuLu. He's capable of that despite not being able to sign 2 in person autographs the same.

The more posts you make on this topic the worse it looks for the Lulu mom conspiracy theorists.

You could superimpose any of his questioned "lulu" stickers from 2018-19 on top of these witnessed on card optic contenders autos and they'd be a 95-99% match. It's game over. Shut it down.

[jmcca170]

Originally Posted by cypher

Your Contenders Optic autos don't help you. Imagine thinking Luka would sign thousands of stickers with an identical signature. It's obvious he had someone else sign those stickers. No matter how many cards he can sign "LuLu" will prove those fake feminine signatures. Notice how Panini is only having Luka sign on card because they already know he will forge stickers. Hey guys 20 year old Luka got stick of signing and had thousands of stickers signed with a perfect LuLu. He's capable of that despite not being able to sign 2 in person autographs the same.

There are definitely sticker autos in this years products.


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[cdeck22]

Life is better having that Cypher clown on the ignore list, stop quoting him!

[beavers]

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[jerrygarcia]

Originally Posted by beavers

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Case Closed.

[RedMike]

I figured it out.

LULU auto when he had a nice big bowl of pasta

scribbly luka when he is STARVING!

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by jerrygarcia

Case Closed.

Shut it down.

[shakobe]

The silence from the other critics is deafening

[Grizzkid12]

Originally Posted by shakobe

The silence from the other critics is deafening

Yea, they're pathetic. Probably too busy fat shaming Zion or talking about how Miles Bridges signed Lamelo's cards so they have something to hate other than their sad lives.

[beavers]

I’m curious if these new examples have moved anyone from the fake camp to the real camp? Primarily, I am interested to here what rogermaris (op) and Asian have to say. They are a couple of very reputable posters here who have been in the fake camp. Obviously these new autos are smoking guns for those of us who already believe in Santa Claus, but is there anyone who is changing their opinion based on these?

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by beavers

I’m curious if these new examples have moved anyone from the fake camp to the real camp? Primarily, I am interested to here what rogermaris (op) and Asian have to say. They are a couple of very reputable posters here who have been in the fake camp. Obviously these new autos are smoking guns for those of us who already believe in Santa Claus, but is there anyone who is changing their opinion based on these?

Yes, I'd like to hear from the OP also. From the outset, it seemed to me like a dubious theory. Of course, that's not to downplay his contributions as a whole to the hobby, of which are very much appreciated... but I always felt making these type of assumptions based on just two letters was quite ludicrous and without much consideration for actual variance when you lay down a sig in a sitting or at different sittings over time. Was OP the originator of the theory? Never got the answer to that Q in my only other contribution to this thread... its curious for sure.

[gameissued]

Hmmm instead of real/fake camps.. maybe it should be referred to as "witnessed" and "questionable" camps. I always leaned toward being in the questionable camp. But if the questionable autos are now witnessed, they're obviously real. It's all about the evidence and there wasn't really anything convincing until now.

Originally Posted by beavers

I’m curious if these new examples have moved anyone from the fake camp to the real camp? Primarily, I am interested to here what rogermaris (op) and Asian have to say. They are a couple of very reputable posters here who have been in the fake camp. Obviously these new autos are smoking guns for those of us who already believe in Santa Claus, but is there anyone who is changing their opinion based on these?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by gameissued

Hmmm instead of real/fake camps.. maybe it should be referred to as "witnessed" and "questionable" camps. I always leaned toward being in the questionable camp. But if the questionable autos are now witnessed, they're obviously real. It's all about the evidence and there wasn't really anything convincing until now.

You can change the labeling now but the two sides were clearly "Luka's autos" and "Luka's mom's autos" aka real/fake.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by beavers

I’m curious if these new examples have moved anyone from the fake camp to the real camp? Primarily, I am interested to here what rogermaris (op) and Asian have to say. They are a couple of very reputable posters here who have been in the fake camp. Obviously these new autos are smoking guns for those of us who already believe in Santa Claus, but is there anyone who is changing their opinion based on these?

Originally Posted by gameissued

Hmmm instead of real/fake camps.. maybe it should be referred to as "witnessed" and "questionable" camps. I always leaned toward being in the questionable camp. But if the questionable autos are now witnessed, they're obviously real. It's all about the evidence and there wasn't really anything convincing until now.

I agree with gameissued. There's evidence now. No point in putting your head in the sand. I think I only questioned his lulus, but if I ever said for sure there is no way Luka signed Lulu, I was wrong. And as I've said before, I'm glad Luka signs his stuff.

For the record, I do have a lulu (NT) but that's all the lulus I plan on getting. It's weird that he signed lulu, went to scribble, and now does a combo of both. But if there is evidence, there is evidence.

I'm glad we questioned his autograph and had discussion about it.

Semi-tangent: It's not necessary to hate on ppl that think differently from others. Just bc ppl want to question something doesn't mean they have "sad lives." It's good to question questionable stuff and healthy to have disagreements. I'm not offended for people calling me out if I do or say something dumb. Yes, there are trolls here who deserve being called out and eventually ignored. But throwing unnecessary hate seems to be the antithesis of what we're trying to do in this forum, which is to hear people's thoughts/opinions on various topics.

I personally haven't felt any hate on this forum but wanted to mention it in general.

I'm glad and thankful we have a space to discuss various topics in the cardboard community.

Now that Lulu is behind us, can we do something about these Panini "no specific player/game/event" relics?

[jmcca170]

I would prefer to focus all of my anger now on why Panini had him sign these would-be iconic cards with a tan crayon lol





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[adam711]

The big question now is will we see a follow up NY Times article

[duron]

I want to believe.

[Kuch86]

Originally Posted by beavers

I’m curious if these new examples have moved anyone from the fake camp to the real camp? Primarily, I am interested to here what rogermaris (op) and Asian have to say. They are a couple of very reputable posters here who have been in the fake camp. Obviously these new autos are smoking guns for those of us who already believe in Santa Claus, but is there anyone who is changing their opinion based on these?

I'm certainly more accepting of the LuLu autos now although I do think it's interesting that his redemptions from Crown Royale & Contenders were the scribbly auto and then since the NY Times article they have changed to the LuLu one.

[FreshOutThePack]

It's wild people are still trying to say he doesn't sign "Lulu". It was proven that his IP ones were a match a long time ago.

[FreshOutThePack]

Originally Posted by jmcca170

I would prefer to focus all of my anger now on why Panini had him sign these would-be iconic cards with a tan crayon lol




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That's a real life tragedy. Witaf

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by jmcca170

I would prefer to focus all of my anger now on why Panini had him sign these would-be iconic cards with a tan crayon lol





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Wow, I almost didn't even see the Auto! What a complete shame

[bloodwings19]

^ Panini letting these go out mean only one thing, money is more important than quality.

[beavers]

Another

[adam711]

https://www.tmz.com/2021/12/21/luka-...nba-mavericks/

Luka giving fake Lulu autos to Slovenian kids in hospitals. /sarcasm