WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 72

GoJays · 05-15-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Since No Way Out is already being advertised that Cena will give no way out to Laurinaitis- So probably a steel cage match- who interferes to cost Cena on Sunday? A) Lesnar B) Big Show or C) Batista?

I choose D: The Funkasaurus

. Or possibly RYBACK!!!!

FEED ME MORE. FEED ME MORE. FEED ME MORE.

Zoop · 05-15-2012, 11:04 PM

They've dug themselves a hole. They never actually build talent. All of the heels win in cheap, cowardly ways (even Mark Henry once he got the strap, which made no sense... imagine Andre the Giant taking his title and running away from a fight against someone). Their programs are never built up in the slightest; they've done nothing AT ALL to build the Punk/Danielson match Sunday. Ooh, he held Punk's foot in a match we all hated! What a heel! Every fresh face has to lose so much that we don't recognize them as real players for any strap. Cody Rhodes has held the IC title twice since September and defended it about three to five times in that time frame because they have too many belts, yet he loses every week--he's ALWAYS the guy who does the job.

In short, nothing feels REAL anymore. It can be PG, but match it feel legitimate. That's why Punk/Cena was great last summer. It was real.

GoJays · 05-17-2012, 08:26 PM

RAW moving to a three hour show permanently starting after 1000th episode. Wow.

natbornkiller · 05-17-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

RAW moving to a three hour show permanently starting after 1000th episode. Wow.

great that means more talking and the same number of quality matches (0)

mnvikingstwins · 05-20-2012, 06:36 PM

PPV tonight, any predictions?

Pre-show Ryder vs. Kane- Kane wins via chokeslam

Battle Royal- Winner gets IC/US title shot later in the PPV- Miz eliminates Ryback to win

Kofi/Truth vs. Ziggler/McIntyre for titles- Ziggler wins to se up a singles run after dropping the titles to AW's stable

Layla vs. Phoenix- Layla wins, no Kharma

Miz vs. Santino- Santino wins with the cobra, quick match

Brodus Clay vs. some jobber- They need to fill a little more time

Punk vs. Bryan- Punk wins, Bryan turns babyface

Sheamus vs. Orton vs. Jericho vs. Del Rio- Sheamus wins, Orton turns heel, Jericho starts his re-retirement for Fozzy

Cena vs. Laurinaitis- Laurinaitis obviously wins, Show probably returns after they tease Batista returning

mnvikingstwins · 05-20-2012, 09:16 PM

Ryback squash time

mnvikingstwins · 05-20-2012, 09:47 PM

Really? Nice job creative, a monkey could have predicted that.

ufcwecfan · 05-20-2012, 09:49 PM

Can someone please update me on who won the matches tonight?
Thanks in advance!

natbornkiller · 05-20-2012, 09:49 PM

I feel bad for anyone that actually paid for this ppv

mnvikingstwins · 05-20-2012, 09:50 PM

Jericho's lost his last 5 PPV matches, end of the world as we know it. Which group of monkeys are smarter, WWE monkeys, Topps QC, or Panini's marketing department?

Igman7 · 05-20-2012, 09:51 PM

OMG!!!! I am SOOOOOOOO shocked that Big Show interfered in the match to make JL win!!!!!! I NEVER saw.......

sorry, I couldn't keep up the act any longer. Good thing I watched that crap for free.

GoJays · 05-20-2012, 10:36 PM

Here's my take:

Christian winning the IC title is the best move wwe has made in the past 2 years. Now Rhodes can be elevated to the main event level and Christian can have one final run as champ before riding into the sunset and (eventually) into the hall of fame. This'll also hopefully being back some "legitimacy" to the IC title. Cody Rhodes is one thing, but a future hall of famer like Christian holding the title is awesome. Hopefully we'll see a little more time invested into the #3 title in the WWE.

Layla beating Beth was fine by me, but we seriously need kharma. Every PPV she misses the divas division becomes less and less important. If she can't return that's fine, just tell us now instead of leaving us hanging.

Brodus Clay beating some jobber is fine, but the jobber being The Miz? I guess the Miz's fall from stardom will continue. Hopefully he has a sheamus-like turnaround and has a good solid career.

Dolph and Swagger losing makes no sense to me. Kofi and Truth can go on to have fine singles careers without being a team, but where does this leave the Guerrero stable? Great technical match though. Every Kofi match is awesome, though

Ryback winning is awesome, and the fact his match came right before the main event shows he is on the path straight to success. I would've liked to see him dominate more (seeing him on the ground makes him look a little weaker) but he still squashed him and that's fine by me.

Fatal four way should've been won by Jericho to set up an Orton/Jericho feud. What happened to the end of the world as we know it? Jericho's reuturn has tarnished his illustrious career. At least he was the #2 man in the match, but in Jericho's case 2 isn't good enough.

WWE Championship match was fantastic. Would've liked to see a definitive winner (sort of ended as a draw in a sense) but I guess this sets up future matches between Punk and Bryan, and I am in no way against that

Main event was terrible and extremely predictable. Plain and simple. And seeing Big Show back in the main event is the kicker: this was the worst main event in recent memory. Just awful.

Overall I give the show 7/10. Good show, bad main event. The majority of the title matches were pretty good though, which is fantastic to see. We know next ppv's main event will have Cena in some capacity. Hopefully it is a little better.

Just my take

Igman7 · 05-20-2012, 11:27 PM

I think that Christian might have a lot tougher road than you think on the way to the HOF. Vinnie won't be all that quick to induct someone who left and worked for the competition. Also, while his singles career has been pretty good, he will always be remembered as the weak half of a tag team, IMO.

GoJays · 05-21-2012, 10:32 AM

Anyone else notice at the start of the show, instead of the usual "WWE presents Extreme Rules" they went with "World Wrestling Entertainment presents...". Have they changed the name again?

golfinglegend67 · 05-21-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

Anyone else notice at the start of the show, instead of the usual "WWE presents Extreme Rules" they went with "World Wrestling Entertainment presents...". Have they changed the name again?

I didn't catch that but hopefully it means they're starting to shift the product again. Having more matches like Punk v. Bryan with a story will definitely bring better ratings IMO

natbornkiller · 05-21-2012, 08:30 PM

just when you think things cant get any worse

mnvikingstwins · 05-21-2012, 08:32 PM

For that injured collarbone that he can't move, Johnny seemed to be putting a lot of weight on it.

GoJays · 05-21-2012, 08:48 PM

Oh good, The Big Show is back in the main event. Maybe if we're lucky The Great Khali will be fighting for the WHC at No Way Out!

natbornkiller · 05-21-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gojays

oh good, the big show is back in the main event. Maybe if we're lucky the great khali will be fighting for the whc at no way out!

kahli is going to win the next money in the bank match

mnvikingstwins · 05-21-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

kahli is going to win the next money in the bank match

And then plummet through the ring off the ladder. Hopefully the main event is actually decent tonight.

mnvikingstwins · 05-21-2012, 09:46 PM

Why is Tensai still even on TV? Seems like they finally dropped the Lord part though.

DCN12586 · 05-21-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Why is Tensai still even on TV? Seems like they finally dropped the Lord part though.

Because one day Albert will be known as the greatest wrestler that ever lived!

GoJays · 05-21-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DCN12586

Because Albert is the greatest human being to ever walk the face of the Earth

Fixed it for you

DCN12586 · 05-21-2012, 09:59 PM

Oh my God its Paul Wright! Paul Wright!

mnvikingstwins · 05-21-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DCN12586

Because Albert is the fattest and ugliest wrestler that has ever lived

Fixed again, stop making mistakes

05-15-2012, 11:04 PM	#1777
Zoop Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 8,674 ZooperBowl	They've dug themselves a hole. They never actually build talent. All of the heels win in cheap, cowardly ways (even Mark Henry once he got the strap, which made no sense... imagine Andre the Giant taking his title and running away from a fight against someone). Their programs are never built up in the slightest; they've done nothing AT ALL to build the Punk/Danielson match Sunday. Ooh, he held Punk's foot in a match we all hated! What a heel! Every fresh face has to lose so much that we don't recognize them as real players for any strap. Cody Rhodes has held the IC title twice since September and defended it about three to five times in that time frame because they have too many belts, yet he loses every week--he's ALWAYS the guy who does the job. In short, nothing feels REAL anymore. It can be PG, but match it feel legitimate. That's why Punk/Cena was great last summer. It was real. __________________ Lifelong St. Louis Cardinals fan. Lifelong Seattle Seahawks fan. Albert Pujols. Bret "Hitman" Hart. Yadier Molina. Ichiro. Instagram: ZooperBowl Life is too short to be mad on a message board. Last edited by Zoop; 05-15-2012 at 11:06 PM.

05-20-2012, 09:49 PM	#1784
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,798	I feel bad for anyone that actually paid for this ppv __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

05-20-2012, 10:36 PM	#1787
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	Here's my take: Christian winning the IC title is the best move wwe has made in the past 2 years. Now Rhodes can be elevated to the main event level and Christian can have one final run as champ before riding into the sunset and (eventually) into the hall of fame. This'll also hopefully being back some "legitimacy" to the IC title. Cody Rhodes is one thing, but a future hall of famer like Christian holding the title is awesome. Hopefully we'll see a little more time invested into the #3 title in the WWE. Layla beating Beth was fine by me, but we seriously need kharma. Every PPV she misses the divas division becomes less and less important. If she can't return that's fine, just tell us now instead of leaving us hanging. Brodus Clay beating some jobber is fine, but the jobber being The Miz? I guess the Miz's fall from stardom will continue. Hopefully he has a sheamus-like turnaround and has a good solid career. Dolph and Swagger losing makes no sense to me. Kofi and Truth can go on to have fine singles careers without being a team, but where does this leave the Guerrero stable? Great technical match though. Every Kofi match is awesome, though Ryback winning is awesome, and the fact his match came right before the main event shows he is on the path straight to success. I would've liked to see him dominate more (seeing him on the ground makes him look a little weaker) but he still squashed him and that's fine by me. Fatal four way should've been won by Jericho to set up an Orton/Jericho feud. What happened to the end of the world as we know it? Jericho's reuturn has tarnished his illustrious career. At least he was the #2 man in the match, but in Jericho's case 2 isn't good enough. WWE Championship match was fantastic. Would've liked to see a definitive winner (sort of ended as a draw in a sense) but I guess this sets up future matches between Punk and Bryan, and I am in no way against that Main event was terrible and extremely predictable. Plain and simple. And seeing Big Show back in the main event is the kicker: this was the worst main event in recent memory. Just awful. Overall I give the show 7/10. Good show, bad main event. The majority of the title matches were pretty good though, which is fantastic to see. We know next ppv's main event will have Cena in some capacity. Hopefully it is a little better. Just my take Last edited by GoJays; 05-20-2012 at 10:39 PM.

05-21-2012, 08:30 PM	#1791
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,798	just when you think things cant get any worse __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

05-17-2012, 08:26 PM	#1778
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	RAW moving to a three hour show permanently starting after 1000th episode. Wow.

05-20-2012, 06:36 PM	#1780
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	PPV tonight, any predictions? Pre-show Ryder vs. Kane- Kane wins via chokeslam Battle Royal- Winner gets IC/US title shot later in the PPV- Miz eliminates Ryback to win Kofi/Truth vs. Ziggler/McIntyre for titles- Ziggler wins to se up a singles run after dropping the titles to AW's stable Layla vs. Phoenix- Layla wins, no Kharma Miz vs. Santino- Santino wins with the cobra, quick match Brodus Clay vs. some jobber- They need to fill a little more time Punk vs. Bryan- Punk wins, Bryan turns babyface Sheamus vs. Orton vs. Jericho vs. Del Rio- Sheamus wins, Orton turns heel, Jericho starts his re-retirement for Fozzy Cena vs. Laurinaitis- Laurinaitis obviously wins, Show probably returns after they tease Batista returning

05-20-2012, 09:16 PM	#1781
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	Ryback squash time

05-20-2012, 09:47 PM	#1782
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	Really? Nice job creative, a monkey could have predicted that.

05-20-2012, 09:49 PM	#1783
ufcwecfan Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,253 ufcwecfan	Can someone please update me on who won the matches tonight? Thanks in advance!

05-20-2012, 09:50 PM	#1785
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	Jericho's lost his last 5 PPV matches, end of the world as we know it. Which group of monkeys are smarter, WWE monkeys, Topps QC, or Panini's marketing department?

05-20-2012, 09:51 PM	#1786
Igman7 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,157 Igman7	OMG!!!! I am SOOOOOOOO shocked that Big Show interfered in the match to make JL win!!!!!! I NEVER saw....... sorry, I couldn't keep up the act any longer. Good thing I watched that crap for free.

05-20-2012, 11:27 PM	#1788
Igman7 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,157 Igman7	I think that Christian might have a lot tougher road than you think on the way to the HOF. Vinnie won't be all that quick to induct someone who left and worked for the competition. Also, while his singles career has been pretty good, he will always be remembered as the weak half of a tag team, IMO.

05-21-2012, 10:32 AM	#1789
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	Anyone else notice at the start of the show, instead of the usual "WWE presents Extreme Rules" they went with "World Wrestling Entertainment presents...". Have they changed the name again?

05-21-2012, 08:32 PM	#1792
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	For that injured collarbone that he can't move, Johnny seemed to be putting a lot of weight on it.

05-21-2012, 08:48 PM	#1793
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	Oh good, The Big Show is back in the main event. Maybe if we're lucky The Great Khali will be fighting for the WHC at No Way Out!

05-21-2012, 09:46 PM	#1796
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,185 ski_4 ski_4	Why is Tensai still even on TV? Seems like they finally dropped the Lord part though.

05-21-2012, 09:59 PM	#1799
DCN12586 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Daphne, Alabama Posts: 4,229 DCN12586	Oh my God its Paul Wright! Paul Wright!