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Old 09-02-2020, 08:26 AM   #1776
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Its been over a month but they also are just now shipping my project 2020 from july so I figure they are 2 months behind. I also got something from topps i did not order the other day and have no idea what its for. Do they give out free junk? This was a 2018 team set of the cardinals. I was hoping it was something I ordered and got that.
The P2020 delays are a unique situation that doesn't affect their timing with their other products. The P2020 demand surge killed all plans they had for delivering those in a timely manner. They had a completely unexpected need for an extra 200,000-300,000 cases. All of the other waves were fulfilled in a generally timely manner when P2020 was even crazier. Something else has to be going on here.

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Old 09-02-2020, 11:58 AM   #1777
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The P2020 delays are a unique situation that doesn't affect their timing with their other products. The P2020 demand surge killed all plans they had for delivering those in a timely manner. They had a completely unexpected need for an extra 200,000-300,000 cases. All of the other waves were fulfilled in a generally timely manner when P2020 was even crazier. Something else has to be going on here.
Maybe Wave 3 is delayed because they are going to go back and put an auto in every pack/box? lol jk

Wave 3 is the first I've done. The prospect side intrigued me more than the veteran/HOF side. I'm in no real hurry, other than being impatient.

I definitely understand the P2020 piece. But looking at the T206 piece, the orders are going down, not up, and still going slower by the wave. It says a lot if they release wave 5 tomorrow and still haven't shipped wave 4. I'd seriously not expect Wave 5 to get to you until 2021 if you order it...
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:01 PM   #1778
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i've gotten a few packs of these

i feel the project 2020 thread should be topps t206 is the worst product since 91 fleer. lol

i've grown to hate this product lol
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:32 PM   #1779
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Never mind..reading is fundamental
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:36 AM   #1780
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Checklist day! I'm still excited regardless of the delays. Who are you guys really hoping makes the final checklist? As a White Sox fan, I'm really happy with what they've given me so far. Luis Robert is a given for wave 5, then I think it would be really cool if Shoeless Joe made it. And I'm still holding out hope for Jasson regardless of their already being a prospect-only wave.
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:15 AM   #1781
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Checklist day! I'm still excited regardless of the delays. Who are you guys really hoping makes the final checklist? As a White Sox fan, I'm really happy with what they've given me so far. Luis Robert is a given for wave 5, then I think it would be really cool if Shoeless Joe made it. And I'm still holding out hope for Jasson regardless of their already being a prospect-only wave.
I know the odds of this are like 0.00001%, but I thought that it would be cool to do a Jasson surprise SSP in Wave 3. Not announce it on the checklist. Make it fairly rare, like 50 or 100 copies or something... as a "no number" base card. That way people with sets wouldn't get up in arms.

Topps should put me in charge of these things... lol
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:55 AM   #1782
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Bought my 8 packs before wave 4 shut down. Looking forward to the wave 5 checklist. Should be fairly nice, but big emphasis on SHOULD. This is Topps after all.

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Old 09-03-2020, 11:58 AM   #1783
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Guess on wave 4 print run? I think its going to drop way down to only 15-17k because of product delays, weaker checklist, and lots of other big products launching over the past month.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:09 PM   #1784
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Guess on wave 4 print run? I think its going to drop way down to only 15-17k because of product delays, weaker checklist, and lots of other big products launching over the past month.
I think it'll do better than the prospect wave. Somewhere in the 30K range.
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Old 09-03-2020, 12:10 PM   #1785
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I’m guessing 38,222


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Old 09-03-2020, 02:22 PM   #1786
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Well Robert is confirmed, anyone see the full checklist yet?
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:25 PM   #1787
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Well Robert is confirmed, anyone see the full checklist yet?
Nope, but Robert, Jeter, Acuna, Soto, and Maddux is a good start!
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:50 PM   #1788
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21,350 wave 4 print run
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:56 PM   #1789
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21,350 wave 4 print run
Wow! Somebody usually figures out odds and base print run - I'm calling you right now lol
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:10 PM   #1790
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Wow! Somebody usually figures out odds and base print run - I'm calling you right now lol
Claude may very well be amazing at math, but in this situation he just read what's shown on Topps website.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:19 PM   #1791
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Wow! Somebody usually figures out odds and base print run - I'm calling you right now lol
I get:

Base - 3416
Piedmont - 854
Sweet Caporal - 142
Soverign - 71
Polar Bear - 24
Old Mill - 14
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:21 PM   #1792
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Claude may very well be amazing at math, but in this situation he just read what's shown on Topps website.
This is what I was looking for lol
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Base - 3416
Piedmont - 854
Sweet Caporal - 142
Soverign - 71
Polar Bear - 24
Old Mill - 14
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:22 PM   #1793
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If I did this correct:

Piedmont - 854
Sweet Caporal - 142
Sovereign - 71
Polar Bear - 24
Old Mill - 14

Thanks UCCF for confirming.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:26 PM   #1794
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If I did this correct:

Piedmont - 854
Sweet Caporal - 142
Sovereign - 71
Polar Bear - 24
Old Mill - 14

Thanks UCCF for confirming.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:53 PM   #1795
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haha just chiming in to say both sets of calcs are correct

wild that two backs – polar bear and old mill – will be rarer than serial-numbered background variation!

also, for anyone doing the math at home...

wave 1: 74,997 print run
waves 2 + 3 + 4: 83,489 print run combined
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:00 PM   #1796
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so big (actually not that big) question is: do we see a spike in print run for wave 5 or does it continue to taper off? i have a feeling this drops below 20K. could even be as low as 15K

might go in hard on wave 5, wondering what everyone else is thinking (really should've been ramping up my investment wave by wave, but not exactly looking to break the bank on $15 packs...)
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:02 PM   #1797
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Series 5 has best checklist so I think it will go back up


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Old 09-03-2020, 04:07 PM   #1798
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I think given you have Robert in it, there will be an uptick. There wasn't really anything that outstanding in wave 4
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Agreed, I think Wave 5 will be up significantly
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I fear that Series 5 will rival, possibly even pass, series 1.
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