So you know who's Super was pulled

[HOFAutoRookies]

Superfractor? I'm personally waiting for the Bryant SuperDuperFractor, ya'll are idiots chasing just a Superfractor

[Hess687]

This is nothing more than me playing conspiracy theorist here, but did this card have any chance of receiving a bad grade?? It should come to no surprise to anyone this card graded a 9.5. Now maybe it deserves its 9.5 grade, as I am no professional grader and can count on one hand how many times I have gotten a card graded, but let's take a look at numbers.

Out of the 427 listings (both active and sold) when searching both "Superfractor BGS" and "Superfractor PSA" on the beloved site of EBay, only 7 Superfractors, SEVEN Superfractors, received a grade lower than a 9.

This to me is odd (once again playing the role of conspiracy theorist), but you mean to tell me only 1% of Superfractors that are graded in a sample size of 427 cards came out at an 8.5 or below?? Of all the manufacturing errors that have occurred over the years, whether it be miscut or centering issues, these Superfractors are in near pristine condition with a total of 421 grading out at a 9 or above?

These cards are the ultimate cards for collectors, by far outselling any of its counterparts and to have a grade below a 9 would almost be a slap in the face to the card company's that issue them. So of course this card received a 9.5, along with 99% of the other Superfractors out there as well.

I believe it was once said about the T206 Wagner that a grader knew it was trimmed but it was such a beautiful card they had no choice but to give it a high grade and grade it as being authentic.

This to me is a sham by both card grading companies and card companies as well. And should serve as a slap in the face to card collectors who are wanting honest feedback on a card, but instead receive the "it's a superfractor, we MUST grade it high" evaluation.

Once again, I am just promoting a conspiracy theory, so if conversation is to be had about my theory, direct your comments about what I said, not me as a person as most of these messages tend to sway.

[SportsAutoFreak]

I'd say right now Schwarber cards are likely to do less damage to your wallet/account.

[Afton9444]

anyone that thinks that if they pulled that card they wouldn't throw it on eBay with a HUGE BIN is just not in reality... WE would all do the same thing... Unless like in the first 5 min of pulling it someone said here is $50,000 yeah then it wouldn't see eBay. Good for him

[metsplaya123]

Actually if it were me id sell it to major league since he offered to pay cash. I don't care if I could get more I would worry too much about it getting lost damaged or the buyer playing games

[Prospect Rush]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Major League- If you buy it for super box would you put card outright or do redemptions for a drawing for it? As nice as it is, seems like spending $40k or whatever is too unbalanced so that box prices either need to be several hundred or the average value w/o hitting it drops 20 bucks

Apologies in advance to the OP for the thread derail...

I understand there have been a few honest mistakes, but please everyone stop attaching my name to Superbox, superbreak, super duper box, or whatever it is this week, honestly to us it's offensive. I own Prospect Rush, a baseball prospect repack product that offers the chance to pull some of the biggest prospect cards available. Unlike others, we actually tell you EVERY card in our product and not just the ones we want you to see. Transparency is what we do and IMO consumers should demand such truth from every company not just those that demand it of themselves. I apologize if this comes across rude but all we have in this world imo is character and reputation. We protect ours and believe our policies offer collectors the most fair and honest repack available. Being attached to companies whose compass is not in the same realm is simply not a situation we want to be lumped into.

To answer your question, at this point I'm not sure. I have made what is in my opinion an extremely fair cash and carry in person offer. Cards like these are tough as I'm a true believer in trying to pack as much value in our products as possible. If we purchase (1) card for $50,0000, the reality is most boxes will be heavy, heavy losers. The price paid if purchased will dictate how we go about finalizing pack out.

Appreciate your interest and if we do buy the card we will be the first to announce it here.

[Prospect Rush]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Actually if it were me id sell it to major league since he offered to pay cash. I don't care if I could get more I would worry too much about it getting lost damaged or the buyer playing games

I agree

[Pearce77]

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

[HOFAutoRookies]

Originally Posted by Pearce77

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

Then why didn't they do that with the Strasburg Super?

[StraWMyerS]

Originally Posted by Pearce77

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

Highly likely they do this. It would be foolish of them not to take measures to ensure high grades for the biggest pulls in their respective products.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by Pearce77

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

Originally Posted by StraWMyerS

Highly likely they do this. It would be foolish of them not to take measures to ensure high grades for the biggest pulls in their respective products.

Originally Posted by HOFAutoRookies

Then why didn't they do that with the Strasburg Super?

Yeah the 2 quoted above you need to get up to speed. Not a chance in hell they hand picked the best one lol. Amazes me how many are out of touch

[Hess687]

Originally Posted by Pearce77

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

So then it's not truly a 1/1? That's what you're implying.

[Pearce77]

Not at all. I think they print multiple and select the best one but the Strasburg mentioned kills my theory. I'm a graphic designer and newcomer to card collecting so just speculating on if I was designing/printing something that important I'd make sure it's sent out pristine.

[Sdog77]

Topps has to keep the presses churning. They don't a flying turd what condition it's in. Doesn't affect their bottom line.

[Hess687]

Originally Posted by Sdog77

Topps has to keep the presses churning. They don't a flying turd what condition it's in. Doesn't affect their bottom line.

Which is why I find it interesting that so many of these are grading a 9 or above. Has everyone forgot the printing mishap on 2014 Bowman Chrome where cards were coming out damaged? This is why I am so surprised at the amazing condition of these cards.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by foundabuck

Griffey Jr. did pretty well for a long while.

And Arod until he was caught doping. Those are the only two guys of the modern hobby era.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by Major_League

Apologies in advance to the OP for the thread derail...

I understand there have been a few honest mistakes, but please everyone stop attaching my name to Superbox, superbreak, super duper box, or whatever it is this week, honestly to us it's offensive. I own Prospect Rush,

Same trash different bag.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Yes I am suggesting that. I do it and so do tons of others on here

Stop nitpicking and stop giving the guy grief because he listed the card at a price you don't like. Some of you sound extremely jealous it's laughable.

Strange we all have to do things here. You do realize I was commenting on your comment which was completely wrong right? You told everyone to chill its BO when in fact its not at all. Now you are suggesting they break ebays rules and use ebay as free advertisement so they can do an outside deal, as if that acceptable. Still wondering why our fees go up all the time? Nah but I am sure you cry about it every time they do.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by Pearce77

@Hess687: Topps KNOWS this card is high value. I think they print multiple of the supers, pick the most pristine, check for printing defects, trim centered and make sure it's packed in excellent condition. Just my theory.

This is so far from the truth its scary. While it would make sense we are talking about topps here.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Hess687

Which is why I find it interesting that so many of these are grading a 9 or above. Has everyone forgot the printing mishap on 2014 Bowman Chrome where cards were coming out damaged? This is why I am so surprised at the amazing condition of these cards.

How about this for thought- perhaps only the best conditioned superfractor are being sent in for grading. People are a lot more saavy now regarding what yo send in. So if a super won't grade well, people are smart enough to save their money and not bother submitting, ie, a form of selection bias.

[Prospect Rush]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Same trash different bag.

Same lame act different day.

[dthimesch]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

How about this for thought- perhaps only the best conditioned superfractor are being sent in for grading. People are a lot more saavy now regarding what yo send in. So if a super won't grade well, people are smart enough to save their money and not bother submitting, ie, a form of selection bias.

This is a very good statement for just cards being graded in general. With the hundreds of thousands of cards that get sent in on a 9.5 min grade bulk sub and hundreds of thousands of cards that are run through RCR. We only see the 9.5's and 10's we never see all the rejects that don't grade out thus skewing our perception. Making us think that BGS hands out 9.5's like candy as so many people say, when in reality there are hundreds of thousands of cards being rejected because they didn't meet the 9.5 min grade or not slabbed because they didn't 9.5 during a raw review.

[Jblaw1]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

This is so far from the truth its scary. While it would make sense we are talking about topps here.

Not sure if they check them for the nicest but we know for sure they make multiple full sheet runs as I've seen multiple full sheet superfractor without the auto including Strassberg for sale the last few years.
So they do make them. Whether they give a rip is a totally different question. However a new chrome card out of the pack ought to be gem.

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Strange we all have to do things here. You do realize I was commenting on your comment which was completely wrong right? You told everyone to chill its BO when in fact its not at all. Now you are suggesting they break ebays rules and use ebay as free advertisement so they can do an outside deal, as if that acceptable. Still wondering why our fees go up all the time? Nah but I am sure you cry about it every time they do.

Well if you ever buy something on here or ebay then maybe I will listen to your advice. Until then keep your mouth shut punk

[yanksfan0134]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Same trash different bag.

Man, it seems as if you just come on here to mock anything anybody else ever has to say. I honestly don't think I've seen one of your posts that added anything to the forum that most of us like to call a "community". in all honestly, maybe you shold find another forum to go troll on because we don't need all your negative comments flooding what was supposed to be good threads.