2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs #94AR 1994 SF #1/1 - Page 7

davepeters239 · 02-01-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by charnick

But why would you want to get it fixed? From what you've said, I surmise to add monetary value, but it seems to have been established that it won't add much if any to get them to pop a sticker on the back for you. Even Sandy Koufax's 1962 Topps card has an uncorrected spelling error on the back, and every price guide lists it as an UER. No one's trying to that fixed, and he's the best left handed pitcher of all time!

Again, you speak of adding monetary value, but you're losing $$$ by the day.

So the argument seems to stem from, you think you have a 1/1, and everyone else disagrees with you. Are you at least willing to admit that there's a possibility, especially in the face of seemingly overwhelming eveidence, that you are wrong, and everyone else is right? Sure, it could be the other way around, but can you face the "possibility" that this is all for naught?

And do you realize that we each day A-Rod is embroiled in controversy the possibility of this meeting probably becomes less and less by the day? You might have been told "no problem" at the time, but circumstances change on their end too. it's not like he's waiting around for you to get back in touch.

Should be? Very subjective term, and you need to know that. And as someone who is just a collector, not a dealer, cards being "worth" anything is a very interesting concept to me. I like that my high-end cards are "worth" hundreds of dollars on the secondary market, but since I don't ever want to sell any of them, why does the dollar value even matter? But I digress...

OK. We're getting somewhere... you admit you wouldn't sell it now, and aren't even sure if there would ever be a good time to sell it again in the future. So why is how much it is "worth" even be important to you? See my last point for why card values have little to no meaning to those who only hold onto the cards rather than put them out into the marketplace.

The federal government couldn't even hold the banks legally accountable for the real estate fiasco from a couple years ago. The Justice Department was "basically ignored," and we're talking billions upon billions of dollars here. You are one person, with an 8 year old baseball card trying to hold a multi-million dollar corporation accountable for "something." I'm not stopping you from continuing to pursue your endeavor, but you do realize the odds are greatly stacked against you, right? Odds much more rare than 1:618,000, or whatever it is.

I wanted to get it fixed because I think it would have more value corrected than uncorrected. I am trying to find out what guidelines Beckett uses to list errors as I want to get some of my other error cards listed and acknowledged in their guide.

With all the arod bad news thats been going around I am unsure it can get much worse value wise but I still think there will be people who collect him.

I don't want to admit I am wrong about this because I am pretty sure I am right. If there was even a small doubt that I could be wrong about this card I would admit it. People have been posting saying oh its not that card and whatnot but they haven't been able to tell me what card it is. The reason for this is because they cannot because it is the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

I think in the future if I wanted to get this card signed I would be able to. It may not happen overnight and I might have to travel a bit to meet him though.

I collect some cards for fun and some cards for profit.

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

Those numbers on the Topps hologram stickers mean nothing and this has been verified with Topps and you can again confirm this yourself.

No sorry I will not get over it. If you would like to purchase the card from me for $2000.00 then you can ignore the mistake all you want to.

This guy is a terrible scam artist! Nobody will pay $2 for that piece of crap card in which EVERYONE has told you is nothing special...just a BACK DOORED card, nothing more, nothing less...

You should be reported for trying to scam us!

davepeters239 · 02-01-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bogeyfreeround

did a google search don't know if this matters..but he sold one in 2005.....05 Bowman Chrome Misprint?

That is very interesting but cannot confirm if it was a card like this one or what. I also cannot confirm what was said between the seller and Topps over the phone or if what was posted was accurate.

What I can confirm is the card I have is BGS graded and authentic and that this card was commented on by Topps and an explanation given.

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

I wanted to get it fixed because I think it would have more value corrected than uncorrected. I am trying to find out what guidelines Beckett uses to list errors as I want to get some of my other error cards listed and acknowledged in their guide.

With all the arod bad news thats been going around I am unsure it can get much worse value wise but I still think there will be people who collect him.

I don't want to admit I am wrong about this because I am pretty sure I am right. If there was even a small doubt that I could be wrong about this card I would admit it. People have been posting saying oh its not that card and whatnot but they haven't been able to tell me what card it is. The reason for this is because they cannot because it is the 2005 Bowman Chrome A-Rod Throwback Autographs 94A-AR card.

I think in the future if I wanted to get this card signed I would be able to. It may not happen overnight and I might have to travel a bit to meet him though.

I collect some cards for fun and some cards for profit.

Go try scamming someone else, many of us survived the Haiku scam and would never fall for such a lame scam attempt as this. You will not profit a dime from that junk

DaBaddestHic · 02-01-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

I've seen yours, seeing that, how is this?:

ITS THE EXACT SAME AS YOURS!!
ITS THE EXACT SAME AS YOURS!!
ITS THE EXACT SAME AS YOURS!!
ITS THE EXACT SAME AS YOURS!!
ITS THE EXACT SAME AS YOURS!!

If I say the sky is blue, are you going to argue that its green. Seriously, why don't you let it go already. Your card is worth nothing. It is not something valuable. LET......IT........GO!!!!

Do you not have the card anymore? I don't see why you can't just scan the back of it, because it would stop a lot of these arguments.

AlphaNOmega06 · 02-01-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

That is very interesting but cannot confirm if it was a card like this one or what. I also cannot confirm what was said between the seller and Topps over the phone or if what was posted was accurate.

What I can confirm is the card I have is BGS graded and authentic and that this card was commented on by Topps and an explanation given.

your card was commented by topps as "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs."

Also your cards labeled as MISSING STICKER AND AUTO, the only thing you have going for you is that its a topps cards.

MetDude · 02-01-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bogeyfreeround

did a google search don't know if this matters..but he sold one in 2005.....05 Bowman Chrome Misprint?

thanks!
this was the thread I was referring to MUCH earlier here but could not find again.

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 06:38 PM

Don't fall for this scam artist!

Cubs_rock21 · 02-01-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

That is very interesting but cannot confirm if it was a card like this one or what. I also cannot confirm what was said between the seller and Topps over the phone or if what was posted was accurate.

What I can confirm is the card I have is BGS graded and authentic and that this card was commented on by Topps and an explanation given.

It looks like the thread was posted in 2005, which was around the same time this card would have been put in packs. since the product was fresh off the market im guessing the Topps reps knew what it was and what happened. Whatever is in that thread is prob. true about the card and it prob. can't be signed or replaced. UNLESS it was an intricate plan to trap you 7 years later and send you on a roller coaster ride that will have your mind circling with questions that will never be answered!! The card in the thread is the EXACT same as the pictures you are showing. I don't understand why the #@#@#@#@ you think it could be different. That's just flat out ignorance.

You're 44 years old, be smarter than this. OBVIOUSLY whatever answers we give you is NOT good enough so why don't you stop talking about it.

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davepeters239 · 02-01-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubs_rock21

It looks like the thread was posted in 2005, which was around the same time this card would have been put in packs. since the product was fresh off the market im guessing the Topps reps knew what it was and what happened. Whatever is in that thread is prob. true about the card and it prob. can't be signed or replaced. UNLESS it was an intricate plan to trap you 7 years later and send you on a roller coaster ride that will have your mind circling with questions that will never be answered!! The card in the thread is the EXACT same as the pictures you are showing. I don't understand why the #@#@#@#@ you think it could be different. That's just flat out ignorance.

I don't know who that person spoke to at Topps or what was said between them but that thread is from 2005 and contradicts what is in print and what Topps said in the December 2005 Beckett readers write section.

MetDude · 02-01-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

I am sorry but you might be mistaken. As far as I know Topps never told anyone these cards shouldn't have been in packs and if anyone has proof Topps did say that I would be very eager to see that.

Topps did comment to Beckett (December 2005) in the readers writes section of the magazine years back and they said "During production, chrome cards have a tendency to stick together. This is what most likely happened and an unknown number of unsigned cards were accidentally inserted into packs. Any collector in possession of these cards needs to contact our customer service department so we can resolve the situation."

I did contact them and was always told to just send the card in and they would replace it which I did not feel comfortable doing without knowing what would be sent in return.

They did send me another arod autograph card which I sent back to them as I didn't feel it was a fair replacement.

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

I don't know who that person spoke to at Topps or what was said between them but that thread is from 2005 and contradicts what is in print and what Topps said in the December 2005 Beckett readers write section.

speaking of contradictions

Cubs_rock21 · 02-01-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

I don't know who that person spoke to at Topps or what was said between them but that thread is from 2005 and contradicts what is in print and what Topps said in the December 2005 Beckett readers write section.

Is the card in the 2005 thread the same one you have in your hands now?

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 07:40 PM

He believes it is a 1/1 so no one else can make him think otherwise...even if EVERYBODY has told him it isn't.

Actually I think he knows it is nothing special and is trying to sell it to us as if it were a unique 1/1 card. He is asking $2000 for a $2 card. He is a really bad scam artist.

davepeters239 · 02-01-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubs_rock21

Is the card in the 2005 thread the same one you have in your hands now?

I am unsure if it is the same card or not.

swatko4 · 02-01-2013, 07:51 PM

i offer 2k to stfu

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

I am unsure if it is the same card or not.

You know it is...

But go on and continue to lie you scam artist POS

GOWIFB · 02-01-2013, 09:34 PM

This is how I picture us arguing with Dave

No no no Donkey - Family Guy - YouTube

Sorry wish I knew how to embed the actual video onto the post rather than just a link

natbornkiller · 02-01-2013, 09:42 PM

only 7 pages
wtf

THE(NEXT)LEVEL · 02-01-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by swatko4

i offer 2k to stfu

Give me 20.00 for mine and deal.

Mrpokey · 02-01-2013, 10:51 PM

Dave Peters, I'm curious what you originally bought the card for on Ebay. Mind telling us?

death2redemptions · 02-01-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrpokey

Dave Peters, I'm curious what you originally bought the card for on Ebay. Mind telling us?

He bought it for $5 and now he feels like Topps owes it to him to get A-Roid to sign it with the sticker included. What a douche

bogeyfreeround · 02-01-2013, 11:49 PM

if you look up that old thread and look where the card was sold..it was sold to someone in taiwan in 2005

VWBUS1978 · 02-01-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Give me 20.00 for mine and deal.

If he doesn't want it, I'll take it just to send it in to Bgs so we can show this guy it's not a 1/1.

Done! Send me PP info if you're serious!

dizzyduff13 · 02-01-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by luck15hope

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My question is why are all of this guys posts edited like this? Did I miss something?

duwal · 02-02-2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by davepeters239

That is wrong info and I don't believe there is a superfractor version of this card.

This card is indeed the card that has the odds to pull at 1:614,088 packs.

It is the only card it could be.

If you do not think it is that card what card do you think it is?

as it has been proven in the previous thread you card is NOT the one that is 1:614088 packs. That would be the superfractor parallel of this, there were also xfractor and refractor parallel autographs of these. They were ALL serial-numbered on the back as well as have the appropriate wording of which variation it was listed under the number. Now you had it graded in which Beckett does not state it to be a 1/1 or serial-numbered at all which further disproves your claim.

And its not some of us that disagrees with you, it is everyone here, every website online, the company that graded your card and the company that produced that card yet you still seem to want to be in this mystery land where you think the card is more than it is. The other issue is as you keep on arguing...its Alex Rodriguez....his prices are dropping fast and the card you have is losing value week after week

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death2redemptions Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Creeping in mama's cellar Posts: 59,303 ddavisaz	He believes it is a 1/1 so no one else can make him think otherwise...even if EVERYBODY has told him it isn't. Actually I think he knows it is nothing special and is trying to sell it to us as if it were a unique 1/1 card. He is asking $2000 for a $2 card. He is a really bad scam artist.

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