Official 2025-26 NBA Offseason Thread - Page 7

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

Damage control for Giannis. Is he going to say "happy to see Dame gone"?

Of course the rubes on here will continue spinning things however they want. Doesn't matter what the Bucks do, they'd say Giannis should leave if the Bucks just got a cloned prime Jordan and spin it saying how the Bucks did Giannis dirty by getting a player that is better than him.

Just quote me bud. Passive aggressive is ugly.

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Just quote me bud. Passive aggressive is ugly.

Well there's a number of you, some more-so than others. Good self-identification there though.

The Bucks will still be making another "surprising" move or two, but hey, lets just call it 24 hours into free agency

asujbl · 07-01-2025, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

We will have to agree to disagree. All this did was give them the ability to sign Myles Turner, nothing else. Does Giannis/Turner/Portis do anything for you? 1st round exit team still, 2nd round at best. Still have no picks. This is their team.

They won a title and traded everything trying to win another, there is no shame in that, but now they are in a LeBron James type team phase where they are destroying the franchise trying to win when it's obvious they won't.

This

Giannis/Turner/Portis is winning absolutely nothing that matters

The Bucks were trying to get cute and pretend like they are good. This is going to be an all-time backfire

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

This

Giannis/Turner/Portis is winning absolutely nothing that matters

The Bucks were trying to get cute and pretend like they are good. This is going to be an all-time backfire

Well, all 3 of them have already won more things that matter than Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley have....

asujbl · 07-01-2025, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

Well, all 3 of them have already won more things that matter than Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley have....

Nikola Topic has as many rings as Giannis does

And I've played the same number of NBA games

This is how we all know you have lost the argument

You're fine being a middle of the road team going forward. Just accept it. It's fine with the rest of us

tjforce · 07-01-2025, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Nikola Topic has as many rings as Giannis does

And I've played the same number of NBA games

This is how we all know you have lost the argument

You're fine being a middle of the road team going forward. Just accept it. It's fine with the rest of us

Back in college I lived down the hall from a guy named Ed Casey.... cousin of Reds 1st baseman Sean Casey.

We were bickering over a game of Madden once and his comeback was "Ohh yea, while me and my cousin combined have slept with more chicks than you".

I'm getting similar vibes here.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 02:28 PM

I don't think oshmeehan gets it. Nobody (I think) is sitting there laughing like 'haha the Bucks are a trainwreck what losers!"We're all just not Bucks fans therefore not biased and can see the writing on the wall.

I'll say it again, they won a championship, that's the goal. They tried their absolute best to win another, it's not going to happen and there is no shame in that, but the run is beyond over and the moves they are making now are just setting the franchise back further and further.

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Nikola Topic has as many rings as Giannis does

And I've played the same number of NBA games

This is how we all know you have lost the argument

You're fine being a middle of the road team going forward. Just accept it. It's fine with the rest of us

What are Donovan and Evan winning? The regular season? They got embarrassed in the Playoffs.

Apparently what the Bucks do isn't fine with a few of you, because you keep on wanting to talk about it for some reason.

The Cavs with Donovan now are just the Jazz East with Donovan. Just accept it....

tjforce · 07-01-2025, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

What are Donovan and Evan winning? The regular season? They got embarrassed in the Playoffs.

Apparently what the Bucks do isn't fine with a few of you, because you keep on wanting to talk about it for some reason.

The Cavs with Donovan now are just the Jazz East with Donovan. Just accept it....

Bashing Donovan Mitchell to Cavs fans isn't going to draw any blood.

Cavs fans don't like Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell fans have jumped aboard the Cavs bandwagon until he eventually moves on.

As for Mobley...4 years into his career Giannis hadn't won a playoff series. So I'm not sure why he's catching strays here.

asujbl · 07-01-2025, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't think oshmeehan gets it. Nobody (I think) is sitting there laughing like 'haha the Bucks are a trainwreck what losers!"We're all just not Bucks fans therefore not biased and can see the writing on the wall.

I'll say it again, they won a championship, that's the goal. They tried their absolute best to win another, it's not going to happen and there is no shame in that, but the run is beyond over and the moves they are making now are just setting the franchise back further and further.

Again an accurate post

No one cares enough about the Bucks to "hate them" or anything... it's just the ridiculously defensive nature when anyone even mentions that A) Giannis might be better of somewhere else and B) That Myles Turner isn't a needle mover

If Giannis wants to play for the Bucks forever? That's awesome. That's all I wanted LeBron to do. I also live on this planet

Bucks won a title. That's great.

They are now making massive mistakes, and they aren't the only team (you can say the Cavs have done it before), clinging to that Championship

They aren't contenders anymore. That's fine. Today did nothing to change that. If Giannis is cool with it? Good for him

It's real life however for everyone else that wants to discuss the NBA

It's so weird

asujbl · 07-01-2025, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

What are Donovan and Evan winning? The regular season? They got embarrassed in the Playoffs.

Apparently what the Bucks do isn't fine with a few of you, because you keep on wanting to talk about it for some reason.

The Cavs with Donovan now are just the Jazz East with Donovan. Just accept it....

Done.

asujbl · 07-01-2025, 02:38 PM

Jakob Poeltl gets 104/4 - really 3 year extension because he exercised his option for 2025

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 02:43 PM

It's so weird to say who is a contender now and who isn't with the whole Summer to go for additional moves for all teams. But since some are set on saying who is and isn't a contender at this point in time, what teams in the East are contenders right now?

The Magic? The Pistons? Or is it just the Cavs and/or the Knicks? Bucks can absolutely contend next season in the East with how things currently stand. The way some you "talk" on here you would think I am talking about the Wizards.

drobfan8 · 07-01-2025, 02:48 PM

The Cavs are the Jazz of the East! Well played. Nailed it.

Mobley should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Giannis ever again.

A lot of petty between you East conference dreamers.

drobfan8 · 07-01-2025, 02:49 PM

Good work for MIL on getting Myles.

No idea what they do from here though.

They're still in purgatory

btmcrushers · 07-01-2025, 02:50 PM

Imagine trading a best of Pelicans/Bucks unprotected 2026 and a Pacers unprotected 2026 pick in the span of two weeks. Literally might have traded 2 top-10 picks in what looks to be a stacked draft.

Bucks best path is to trade Giannis to the Hawks and do a quick rebuild/retool. You can get Jalen (local Wisconsin guy) one of OO/ZR/KP (expiring $30MM), one of Asa/Kobe the 2026 NOP/MIL swap, 2026 SAS/ATL swap, 2027 NOP/MIL SWAP and other 1st.

Front court would be set with Turner and Jalen. If you took KP and flipped some of the assets to unload Kuzma for an expiring, you could open up $40-50MM for 2026.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

It's so weird to say who is a contender now and who isn't with the whole Summer to go for additional moves for all teams. But since some are set on saying who is and isn't a contender at this point in time, what teams in the East are contenders right now?

The Magic? The Pistons? Or is it just the Cavs and/or the Knicks? Bucks can absolutely contend next season in the East with how things currently stand. The way some you "talk" on here you would think I am talking about the Wizards.

Cavs, Knicks, maybe the Hawks and Magic.

tjforce · 07-01-2025, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

The Cavs are the Jazz of the East! Well played. Nailed it.

Mobley should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Giannis ever again.

A lot of petty between you East conference dreamers.

Tell that to the Bucks fan who was the first to bring him into the conversation.

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by btmcrushers

Imagine trading a best of Pelicans/Bucks unprotected 2026 and a Pacers unprotected 2026 pick in the span of two weeks. Literally might have traded 2 top-10 picks in what looks to be a stacked draft.

Bucks best path is to trade Giannis to the Hawks and do a quick rebuild/retool. You can get Jalen (local Wisconsin guy) one of OO/ZR/KP (expiring $30MM), one of Asa/Kobe the 2026 NOP/MIL swap, 2026 SAS/ATL swap, 2027 NOP/MIL SWAP and other 1st.

Front court would be set with Turner and Jalen. If you took KP and flipped some of the assets to unload Kuzma for an expiring, you could open up $40-50MM for 2026.

Imagine trading a current Top 5 player in the NBA for the .0001% chance someone you draft 5 years later turns into the same type of player you currently have.

Unless there is a sure fire #1 pick, like a LeBron or Wemby, you'll still get busts in the Top 5 and get guys that develop into All-Stars at the end of the 1st round.

Draft Picks are an overrated asset a lot of times

kipgen · 07-01-2025, 02:57 PM

All the "bucks need to trade giannis to X" just comes off as wishful thinking by fanbases that want giannis

Giannis is a top three player in the league, the window is open as long as he is there and playing

Unless he asks out and refuses to play there's no reason to trade him

msink28 · 07-01-2025, 03:01 PM

I think the Bucks can contend too. Not sure that they will, but Giannis is the best player in the East which is a good place to start. At any rate, I like the idea of trying, you never know what can happen. If, for example, someone on the Knicks or Cavs goes down for any length of time, Bucks could be right there.

Ordinarily I think a teardown would have been in order but since the Bucks don't happen to own their draft picks for like five years you might as well grab a few playoff exits in between.

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2025, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kipgen

All the "bucks need to trade giannis to X" just comes off as wishful thinking by fanbases that want giannis

Giannis is a top three player in the league, the window is open as long as he is there and playing

Unless he asks out and refuses to play there's no reason to trade him

Their window is shut. That roster is no contender, and they have no more outs. They don't have picks, their only real asset is Giannis. Anyone who is objective about the NBA would agree.

yiguiri2002 · 07-01-2025, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by btmcrushers

Imagine trading a best of Pelicans/Bucks unprotected 2026 and a Pacers unprotected 2026 pick in the span of two weeks. Literally might have traded 2 top-10 picks in what looks to be a stacked draft.

Bucks best path is to trade Giannis to the Hawks and do a quick rebuild/retool. You can get Jalen (local Wisconsin guy) one of OO/ZR/KP (expiring $30MM), one of Asa/Kobe the 2026 NOP/MIL swap, 2026 SAS/ATL swap, 2027 NOP/MIL SWAP and other 1st.

Front court would be set with Turner and Jalen. If you took KP and flipped some of the assets to unload Kuzma for an expiring, you could open up $40-50MM for 2026.

I think Atlanta would need to include JJ, Risacher, DD, both pick swaps and an additional first go have a chance.

Nomad · 07-01-2025, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Their window is shut. That roster is no contender, and they have no more outs. They don't have picks, their only real asset is Giannis. Anyone who is objective about the NBA would agree.

The Bucks are not aiming to contend. They are looking to rebuild with Myles doing what he did in Indiana, welcoming new team-centered talent. Why Lillard's $22 million a year stretch doesn't matter.

oshmeehan · 07-01-2025, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Their window is shut. That roster is no contender, and they have no more outs. They don't have picks, their only real asset is Giannis. Anyone who is objective about the NBA would agree.

They can still (and will) make a couple more signiciant moves to improve their roster for this upcoming season (getting rid of Kuz and bringing in a more versatile wing as well as another PG), but whatever they do I'm sure yet again won't change anything for you regardless.

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oshmeehan Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 7,134	It's so weird to say who is a contender now and who isn't with the whole Summer to go for additional moves for all teams. But since some are set on saying who is and isn't a contender at this point in time, what teams in the East are contenders right now? The Magic? The Pistons? Or is it just the Cavs and/or the Knicks? Bucks can absolutely contend next season in the East with how things currently stand. The way some you "talk" on here you would think I am talking about the Wizards. __________________ FEAR THE DEER

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,780 drobfan8 drobfan8	The Cavs are the Jazz of the East! Well played. Nailed it. Mobley should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Giannis ever again. A lot of petty between you East conference dreamers. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

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btmcrushers Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,477	Imagine trading a best of Pelicans/Bucks unprotected 2026 and a Pacers unprotected 2026 pick in the span of two weeks. Literally might have traded 2 top-10 picks in what looks to be a stacked draft. Bucks best path is to trade Giannis to the Hawks and do a quick rebuild/retool. You can get Jalen (local Wisconsin guy) one of OO/ZR/KP (expiring $30MM), one of Asa/Kobe the 2026 NOP/MIL swap, 2026 SAS/ATL swap, 2027 NOP/MIL SWAP and other 1st. Front court would be set with Turner and Jalen. If you took KP and flipped some of the assets to unload Kuzma for an expiring, you could open up $40-50MM for 2026. __________________ I collect Atlanta Braves, Atlanta Falcons and UGA Bulldogs (in uniform).

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kipgen Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,188	All the "bucks need to trade giannis to X" just comes off as wishful thinking by fanbases that want giannis Giannis is a top three player in the league, the window is open as long as he is there and playing Unless he asks out and refuses to play there's no reason to trade him

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msink28 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,290	I think the Bucks can contend too. Not sure that they will, but Giannis is the best player in the East which is a good place to start. At any rate, I like the idea of trying, you never know what can happen. If, for example, someone on the Knicks or Cavs goes down for any length of time, Bucks could be right there. Ordinarily I think a teardown would have been in order but since the Bucks don't happen to own their draft picks for like five years you might as well grab a few playoff exits in between.