Kevin Durant believes he should be in NBA GOAT conversation - Page 7

no10pin · 04-30-2024, 10:31 PM

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hermanotarjeta · 05-01-2024, 12:45 AM

Any KD to the Lakers rumors floating around?

cms11 · 05-01-2024, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

4-0, 4-1 looks terrible at first glance but the Lakers were pretty competitive against the Nuggets. Most games were close with 5 min to go. Jokic/Murray had to hit some crazy shots for Denver to win. Lakers were leading by double digits in a good number of them. Of course they weren't able to close out any of them (save 1 game) but it wasn't like the Lakers were blown out every time.

I've seen series go to G7 that haven't been as competitive as the Lakers vs. the Nuggets the past 2 years.

The Suns weren't even in most of the games against the Wolves. And yeah, the Warriors completely missing the playoffs is embarrassing.

AD and Lebron played great, but DLo and Rui played like trash.

BlueXtreme · 05-02-2024, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

4-0, 4-1 looks terrible at first glance but the Lakers were pretty competitive against the Nuggets. Most games were close with 5 min to go. Jokic/Murray had to hit some crazy shots for Denver to win. Lakers were leading by double digits in a good number of them. Of course they weren't able to close out any of them (save 1 game) but it wasn't like the Lakers were blown out every time.

I've seen series go to G7 that haven't been as competitive as the Lakers vs. the Nuggets the past 2 years.

The Suns weren't even in most of the games against the Wolves. And yeah, the Warriors completely missing the playoffs is embarrassing.

I really think the lakers only need 1 or 2 pieces to get over the hump. But then you also need LBJ and AD to stay healthy. The wheels have to fall off at some point.

KhalDrogo · 05-02-2024, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

I really think the lakers only need 1 or 2 pieces to get over the hump. But then you also need LBJ and AD to stay healthy. The wheels have to fall off at some point.

Sounds like the same narrative thrown out there every year.

BlueXtreme · 05-02-2024, 10:13 AM

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Sounds like the same narrative thrown out there every year.

Because they stuck with the same players they had last year as their main guys. Is what it is.

Scottish Punk · 05-02-2024, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

Because they stuck with the same players they had last year as their main guys. Is what it is.

Lakers have completely abandoned draft and develop. You are at the mercy of available guys year and year out to fill out the "others". Tough to build a consistent contender that way. Is there anybody other than Christie on their roster who was actually drafted by the Lakers?

Braswell10 · 05-02-2024, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Lakers have completely abandoned draft and develop. You are at the mercy of available guys year and year out to fill out the "others". Tough to build a consistent contender that way. Is there anybody other than Christie on their roster who was actually drafted by the Lakers?

Lakers are terrible at drafting anyway, so it’s not like it would matter.

rynobot · 05-02-2024, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Lakers have completely abandoned draft and develop. You are at the mercy of available guys year and year out to fill out the "others". Tough to build a consistent contender that way. Is there anybody other than Christie on their roster who was actually drafted by the Lakers?

Russell

Scottish Punk · 05-02-2024, 10:57 AM

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Russell

I guess that technically counts. Even though there has been six years and 3 teams in between stints, ha ha.

cms11 · 05-02-2024, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Lakers are terrible at drafting anyway, so it’s not like it would matter.

They had Podz and Whitmore fall to them, but took JHS. Make it make sense.

cms11 · 05-02-2024, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

Because they stuck with the same players they had last year as their main guys. Is what it is.

What bugs me most is that they know DLo chokes, but gambled on him anyway. The Blazers would have traded Ant Simons for relatively cheap, but nope, they stuck with Mr. Anti-Clutch.

jcmel323 · 05-02-2024, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Lakers have completely abandoned draft and develop. You are at the mercy of available guys year and year out to fill out the "others". Tough to build a consistent contender that way. Is there anybody other than Christie on their roster who was actually drafted by the Lakers?

That's the lebron effect. In order to make him happy, you have to use anything available for more talent. Lakers feel the pressure.

Exactly the reason he won in Cavs. Cleveland had all the young assets and developed players and lebron was the ultimate piece.
You can also say that about Miami (outside the big 3 , there was already a system and culture) and made it easier to win.

It's all about the system and the situation. You can't force a team to get better. KD Brooklyn and Phoenix teams were never a system. Just 3 superstars trying to make it happen.

jcmel323 · 05-02-2024, 03:44 PM

KD, Bron and Curry are getting old. You cant have older players around them. It will never work. You need young players especially defensive minded players + a system already in place.

KD or Bron in Miami (one of them, not both) will have a huge impact on the team. The Heat are always losing by a lot at the start of 4qtr. It's always the same. They need a superstar that could hold the game close until the 4th qtr. Then its all Spoelstra mental coach.

I don't even remember a playoff game when the Heat lost to celtics when the game is close by 5 or less (only the crazy derrick white half second shot at the buzzer). Besides that, Heat had won all games close vs BOS.

Basically BOS need to beat the Heat by double digits or you'll lose.

fabiani12333 · 05-03-2024, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

I really think the lakers only need 1 or 2 pieces to get over the hump. But then you also need LBJ and AD to stay healthy. The wheels have to fall off at some point.

Surpringly, both LeBron and AD set Lakers highs in games played this season -- 71 for LeBron and shockingly 76 for AD; a career high.

KhalDrogo · 05-03-2024, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Surpringly, both LeBron and AD set Lakers highs in games played this season -- 71 for LeBron and shockingly 76 for AD; a career high.

Not that surprising. They couldn’t take all those games off they used to unless they wanted to forgo the end of season awards and money that comes with them. Sad it had to come to this, but bravo to the NBA for forcing these players to play.

rms13 · 05-03-2024, 12:52 PM

the Goat should be the best player on multiple championship teams. KD has proven when he's the best player on his team they usually get bounced in the first round.

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05-02-2024, 03:44 PM	#164
jcmel323 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,916	KD, Bron and Curry are getting old. You cant have older players around them. It will never work. You need young players especially defensive minded players + a system already in place. KD or Bron in Miami (one of them, not both) will have a huge impact on the team. The Heat are always losing by a lot at the start of 4qtr. It's always the same. They need a superstar that could hold the game close until the 4th qtr. Then its all Spoelstra mental coach. I don't even remember a playoff game when the Heat lost to celtics when the game is close by 5 or less (only the crazy derrick white half second shot at the buzzer). Besides that, Heat had won all games close vs BOS. Basically BOS need to beat the Heat by double digits or you'll lose.

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rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	the Goat should be the best player on multiple championship teams. KD has proven when he's the best player on his team they usually get bounced in the first round.