**The Perennial MIKE TROUT Thread** - Page 698

Stifle · 05-15-2021, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

You know Bonds peak OPS years are :
1.422
1.381
1.379
1.278

Trout will never get near that.

He has more strike outs than hits and still can't hit for power.

Beyond laughable. Bonds worst years he would never strike out that much.

I don’t believe it’s odd that after Pujols was relegated to assignment, Trout is only 3 for 23 with 1 Run & RBI. A .477 OPS in the 7 games since. Yes, I didn’t use delegated for assignment because it was a relegation.

I wonder what Trout is thinking about his contract and staying with LAA. Would Trout moving on change the market value of his card?

jmcca170 · 05-15-2021, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stifle

I don’t believe it’s odd that after Pujols was relegated to assignment, Trout is only 3 for 23 with 1 Run & RBI. A .477 OPS in the 7 games since.

I wonder what Trout is thinking about his contract and staying with LAA. Would Trout moving on change the market value of his card?

Yes. Would add a ton of hype going to a legit contender IMO

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cardsin47 · 05-15-2021, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

You know Bonds peak OPS years are :
1.422
1.381
1.379
1.278

Trout will never get near that.

Lack of ‘roids ( Trout ) probably a key factor

BigSlim16 · 05-15-2021, 08:32 AM

Are we saying that because Trout is on a bad 10 game slump during May that he should start taking steroids to be more like Bonds?

gabballplayer14 · 05-15-2021, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSlim16

Are we saying that because Trout is on a bad 10 game slump during May that he should start taking steroids to be more like Bonds?

Or maybe that Trout was getting his roids from Pujols?

Mister2Bits · 05-15-2021, 09:37 AM

Was hoping for a 10 on this guy but I'll take a 9!

Stifle · 05-15-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSlim16

Are we saying that because Trout is on a bad 10 game slump during May that he should start taking steroids to be more like Bonds?

I would believe it’s more like the Angels had lost the two games Albert was on the bench on the 5th & 6th. Pujols had a great history vs the pitcher on the 7th but JW was the 1st baseman. JW goes hitless after Pujols was relegated.
IMO

ThoseBackPages · 05-15-2021, 09:58 AM

far too much overthinking.

sign of the times.

imbluestreak23 · 05-15-2021, 11:13 AM

Trout is batting .340

Stifle being stifle

Stifle · 05-15-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

far too much overthinking.

sign of the times.

This isn’t a thread for WAR.

3 for 23 after a decade long teammate who performed not only hurt but injured, was a part of the good and much of the bad. I don’t believe Pujols wanted to earn a paycheck for riding the bench. I believe Trout would know more about the situation and how it was handled.

IMO, Trout’s performance may be a indicator.

BigSlim16 · 05-15-2021, 02:19 PM

Most likely explanation is that this is simply a regression to the mean. His 1.304 OPS in April wasn’t sustainable, just like his .749 OPS so far in May won’t be sustainable. Over the course of the full year he’ll settle somewhere in the middle

jhssketchcards · 05-15-2021, 02:44 PM

FWIW MLB as a whole is slumping.

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ThoseBackPages · 05-15-2021, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stifle

This isn’t a thread for WAR.

3 for 23 after a decade long teammate who performed not only hurt but injured, was a part of the good and much of the bad. I don’t believe Pujols wanted to earn a paycheck for riding the bench. I believe Trout would know more about the situation and how it was handled.

IMO, Trout’s performance may be a indicator.

Trout may be unhappy? Sure, he may be.

he will be fine

the Trout Sky is not falling

HarryLime · 05-15-2021, 02:50 PM

Math happens.

Arthur

NoWhammys2021 · 05-15-2021, 03:12 PM

The pitchers may have stopped throwing him something or have possibly been getting lucky, that’s always a possibility.

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Stifle · 05-15-2021, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

Math happens.
Arthur

Possibly, the last 15 hitless AB streak or more was back in 2018 but it did happen.

IgnatiusJReilly · 05-15-2021, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifle

Possibly, the last 15 hitless AB streak or more was back in 2018 but it did happen.

Sell (to me preferably)!

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JPWisco · 05-15-2021, 10:37 PM

Trout has played (well) through the loss of his brother-in-law and of a teammate in Skaggs. It is silly to think Pujols being booted has anything to do with this. It possible he has lost some heart seeing that his cruddy team will sit in October yet again but a slump is a slump.

k13 · 05-16-2021, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Hitting over .400 going into May — Trout’s a machine
Next level greatness / he’s so far ahead of whoever the 2nd and 3rd best are in the League they can’t even see him .... just the dust cloud

He's not Top 5 in any category right now but he's the best ever...

How's that over .400 looking now....😆

Let me know when Trout wins a batting or home run title ONCE in his life...

jimmybeast3 · 05-16-2021, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

He's not Top 5 in any category right now but he's the best ever...

How's that over .400 looking now....😆

Let me know when Trout wins a batting or home run title ONCE in his life...

Pretty sure he is top 5 in at least 3 categories right now.

jhssketchcards · 05-16-2021, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k13

He's not Top 5 in any category right now but he's the best ever...

How's that over .400 looking now....

Let me know when Trout wins a batting or home run title ONCE in his life...

I don’t think anyone is saying Trout is the best ever.
Bonds Isnt either.

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Stifle · 05-16-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

Sell (to me preferably)!

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Wrong member to ask, I don’t do baseball per say. I’ve had to purchase baseball in order to pickup football. No Trout rookies or any stud baseball rookies. My apologies.

As far as Trout overcoming losses, it may add up to what you are saying. A team that constantly loses because of pitching relegates a player IMO who wants to win is questionable at best. I may not be the only one who has that opinion.

hatchd · 05-16-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

He's not Top 5 in any category right now but he's the best ever...

How's that over .400 looking now....

Let me know when Trout wins a batting or home run title ONCE in his life...

He's leading the league in OBP, SLG, OPS & OPS+. And through his first 10 seasons he's led the league in OBP 4 times (Bonds - 4), SLG 3 times (Bonds - 3), OPS 4 times (Bonds - 5) and OPS+ 6 times (Bonds - 4).

And if you want to compare home runs and average for some reason there's always this:

Bonds (1st 10 years)- 1425 games, 292 HR, .286 AVG
Trout (1st 10 years) - 1252 games, 302 HR, .304 AVG

Anything else?

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HarryLime · 05-16-2021, 10:40 AM

I don't really follow this thread at all and would not consider myself a Trout collector. I did, however, figure his 2012 stuff was probably a good buy a few years ago and so I went out and bought nice PSA 9/10 examples of a lot of Topps color and Topps Chrome refractor/X-fractor.

I just took a look at sales prices. Ho-LEE Chit. I obviously wish I bought more but, damn, talk about falling backwards into a pile of nice cards. Are all of his cards steady moving up?

I mean, if I'm honest with myself, his cards certainly have that "never going to be cheaper" aspect to them and one day we're going to wake up and just poop turkeys over the cost of Mike Trout cards, just like how players like Aaron, Mays, Mantle, etc., have great value even in their 14th year's card.

Arthur

ScooterMcRibs · 05-16-2021, 10:48 AM

The problem with Trout is that he has achieved nothing in his career. The guy is 1-12 career in the post season. So now that his skill is fading, he has nothing to fall back on. Guys like Jeter, Fernando Valenzuela, and others knew that even though they weren't putting up the numbers any longer, they were still multi-time champions and legends of the game. Trout? He's a legend of fantasy baseball.

05-15-2021, 09:37 AM	#17431
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05-15-2021, 09:58 AM	#17433
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05-15-2021, 11:13 AM	#17434
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,761 shortslabs	Trout is batting .340 Stifle being stifle __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

05-15-2021, 08:32 AM	#17429
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	Are we saying that because Trout is on a bad 10 game slump during May that he should start taking steroids to be more like Bonds?

05-15-2021, 02:19 PM	#17436
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	Most likely explanation is that this is simply a regression to the mean. His 1.304 OPS in April wasn’t sustainable, just like his .749 OPS so far in May won’t be sustainable. Over the course of the full year he’ll settle somewhere in the middle

05-15-2021, 02:44 PM	#17437
jhssketchcards Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 11,392 jhssketchcards2012	FWIW MLB as a whole is slumping. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-15-2021, 02:50 PM	#17439
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	Math happens. Arthur

05-15-2021, 03:12 PM	#17440
NoWhammys2021 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,545	The pitchers may have stopped throwing him something or have possibly been getting lucky, that’s always a possibility. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-15-2021, 10:37 PM	#17443
JPWisco Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 191	Trout has played (well) through the loss of his brother-in-law and of a teammate in Skaggs. It is silly to think Pujols being booted has anything to do with this. It possible he has lost some heart seeing that his cruddy team will sit in October yet again but a slump is a slump.

05-16-2021, 10:40 AM	#17449
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	I don't really follow this thread at all and would not consider myself a Trout collector. I did, however, figure his 2012 stuff was probably a good buy a few years ago and so I went out and bought nice PSA 9/10 examples of a lot of Topps color and Topps Chrome refractor/X-fractor. I just took a look at sales prices. Ho-LEE Chit. I obviously wish I bought more but, damn, talk about falling backwards into a pile of nice cards. Are all of his cards steady moving up? I mean, if I'm honest with myself, his cards certainly have that "never going to be cheaper" aspect to them and one day we're going to wake up and just poop turkeys over the cost of Mike Trout cards, just like how players like Aaron, Mays, Mantle, etc., have great value even in their 14th year's card. Arthur

05-16-2021, 10:48 AM	#17450
ScooterMcRibs Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BAY AREA, CA, USA Posts: 431 I'm not going to tell you. No.	The problem with Trout is that he has achieved nothing in his career. The guy is 1-12 career in the post season. So now that his skill is fading, he has nothing to fall back on. Guys like Jeter, Fernando Valenzuela, and others knew that even though they weren't putting up the numbers any longer, they were still multi-time champions and legends of the game. Trout? He's a legend of fantasy baseball.