✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[JRX]

Originally Posted by rms13

Going to the Blue Jays makes no sense. I don't think it puts him any closer to winning then staying with Angels. It might not hurt his endorsements and marketability compared to just staying with the Angels. And personally as a fan it looks like he doesn't want the pressure of being in a big market and just happy with a big payday. I feel like it will be the biggest free agency shocker of all time if that's his decision. Definitely a downgrade for his card market

Toronto isn't a bad team and being on the east coast should help his market. More games in NY, Bos, Bal etc.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Down. Because everyone has been expecting the Dodgers.

It's also because his days of being an elite starter are possibly over. He will be a full-time DH for the foreseeable future. His prices are based on his epic and historic three-year run. It's probably downhill from here.

The good thing is plenty of collectors/investors will remember him fondly, similar to Bo Jackson.

[BabaORiley]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

It's also because his days of being an elite starter are possibly over. He will be a full-time DH for the foreseeable future. His prices are based on his epic and historic three-year run. It's probably downhill from here.

The good thing is plenty of collectors/investors will remember him fondly, similar to Bo Jackson.

Come on, now... How many MVPs did Bo Jackson win?

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

It's also because his days of being an elite starter are possibly over. He will be a full-time DH for the foreseeable future. His prices are based on his epic and historic three-year run. It's probably downhill from here.

The good thing is plenty of collectors/investors will remember him fondly, similar to Bo Jackson.

He was the best hitter in baseball last year, what are you smoking?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by JRX

He was the best hitter in baseball last year, what are you smoking?

How is he any different at DH than Yordan? Why isn't Yordan getting treated like royalty? At least he has a chip.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

It's also because his days of being an elite starter are possibly over. He will be a full-time DH for the foreseeable future. His prices are based on his epic and historic three-year run. It's probably downhill from here.

The good thing is plenty of collectors/investors will remember him fondly, similar to Bo Jackson.

are you going to try to drag this thread down as well?

[rms13]

Originally Posted by JRX

Toronto isn't a bad team and being on the east coast should help his market. More games in NY, Bos, Bal etc.

Playing for NY or BOS would help his market but playing in Canada won't. Playing for the Dodgers or even Cubs would be much better for his market. Blue Jays aren't bad but I don't see how they are any better then the Angels assuming Trout is healthy which is a huge assumption at this point. And Orioles are set up to be good for several years. Yankees and Red Sox will spend money to be good. Rays seem like they will always compete. Blue Jays would have a shot to win but they could also be in last place every year even with Ohtani.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

How is he any different at DH than Yordan? Why isn't Yordan getting treated like royalty? At least he has a chip.

Yordan doesn't pitch.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

How is he any different at DH than Yordan? Why isn't Yordan getting treated like royalty? At least he has a chip.

Cause Yordan doesn't pitch and is never healthy. He his home run high is 37. Ohtani has two seasons over 40 hr.

[njsportscardguy]

Originally Posted by rms13

Going to the Blue Jays makes no sense. I don't think it puts him any closer to winning then staying with Angels. It might not hurt his endorsements and marketability compared to just staying with the Angels. And personally as a fan it looks like he doesn't want the pressure of being in a big market and just happy with a big payday. I feel like it will be the biggest free agency shocker of all time if that's his decision. Definitely a downgrade for his card market

From a strictly,..."win, now....game-of-baseball", mentality,...perhaps. However,...it very well may ....make plenty of sense...to Ohtani. Large[r] Japanese/Asian presence in Toronto,..."change of pace" scenery, and more importantly (IMO),....what may/may not make sense to mere plebes & commoners such as yourself & I,...may make (again) plenty of sense to a international, world class athlete & superstar, whose net work will undoubtedly exceed A BILLION, PLUS (cumulatively) in [presumably]just a matter of hours

[bustsomewax]

Ah, Ohtani to BJs would be a bummer, but it at least puts him on the East Coast time zone allowing more people to see him, I think.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by njsportscardguy

From a strictly,..."win, now....game-of-baseball", mentality,...perhaps. However,...it very well may ....make plenty of sense...to Ohtani. Large[r] Japanese/Asian presence in Toronto,..."change of pace" scenery, and more importantly (IMO),....what may/may not make sense to mere plebes & commoners such as yourself & I,...may make (again) plenty of sense to a international, world class athlete & superstar, whose net work will undoubtedly exceed A BILLION, PLUS (cumulatively) in [presumably]just a matter of hours

We know nothing about him. Maybe he just wants nothing to do with US media markets. I wouldn't blame him if that was part of the consideration.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

are you going to try to drag this thread down as well?

I'm sorry to disrupt the hype. Facts and logic are an inconvenience.

Ohtani without pitching is basically Yordan Alvarez:

2021-2023:

Ohtani: .277/.379/.585, .397 wOBA, 163 wRC+

Yordan: .291/.385/.573, .403 wOBA, 157 wRC+

Might as well call him Yordani.

And with Ohtani's repaired elbow, his hitting power might be sapped for next season.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by JRX

We know nothing about him. Maybe he just wants nothing to do with US media markets. I wouldn't blame him if that was part of the consideration.

Almost feels like a Johnny Gaudreau to Columbus type of move, where a guy just wants to be away from the spotlight

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I'm sorry to disrupt the hype. Facts and logic are an inconvenience.

Ohtani without pitching is basically Yordan Alvarez:

2021-2023:

Ohtani: .277/.379/.585, .397 wOBA, 163 wRC+

Yordan: .291/.385/.573, .403 wOBA, 157 wRC+

Might as well call him Yordani.

And with Ohtani's repaired elbow, his hitting power might be sapped for next season.

Ohtani can also run something else Yordan doesn't do.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I'm sorry to disrupt the hype. Facts and logic are an inconvenience.

Ohtani without pitching is basically Yordan Alvarez:

2021-2023:

Ohtani: .277/.379/.585, .397 wOBA, 163 wRC+

Yordan: .291/.385/.573, .403 wOBA, 157 wRC+

Might as well call him Yordani.

And with Ohtani's repaired elbow, his hitting power might be sapped for next season.

You do realize the Ohtani fanboyz are going to come after you hard now? He is better than Babe Ruth in their eyes and should win MVP every year if he has a great offensive season (even if not the best) because he also pitches. There is even one in here who still believes he should have won MVP over Judge when Judge broke the AL homerun record and saved the Yankees from a 100% playoff miss collapse.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Facts and logic are an inconvenience.

Ohtani without pitching is

Funny how you talk about facts and logic and yet it goes completely out the window with the first few words of what you posted

[LittleJimmies]

Getting paid 100's of millions to play and live in one of the best cities in the world only during the great weather months, who would want that?!!

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Tim

Funny how you talk about facts and logic and yet it goes completely out the window with the first few words of what you posted

Great come back lol

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by JRX

We know nothing about him.

Bingo.

[anusinha]

https://twitter.com/carlocolaiacovo/...48137580114335



wait...... was it a joke?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

You do realize the Ohtani fanboyz are going to come after you hard now? He is better than Babe Ruth in their eyes and should win MVP every year if he has a great offensive season (even if not the best) because he also pitches. There is even one in here who still believes he should have won MVP over Judge when Judge broke the AL homerun record and saved the Yankees from a 100% playoff miss collapse.

For next season, I'm taking Judge over Ohtani all the way -- Judge is playing center field!

[redauto5]

Shohei Blue Refractors sure will be pretty in a Jays uni, and a lot more affordable than his Angels reds! I'm not surprised he's going to Toronto now that I've had a chance to consider it. I for one am looking forward to what he can do in Toronto and am once again tipping my cap at his willingness and ability to tune out all the noise and do what's best for him - to use his gut as he says in his documentary.

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[rms13]

Originally Posted by njsportscardguy

From a strictly,..."win, now....game-of-baseball", mentality,...perhaps. However,...it very well may ....make plenty of sense...to Ohtani. Large[r] Japanese/Asian presence in Toronto,..."change of pace" scenery, and more importantly (IMO),....what may/may not make sense to mere plebes & commoners such as yourself & I,...may make (again) plenty of sense to a international, world class athlete & superstar, whose net work will undoubtedly exceed A BILLION, PLUS (cumulatively) in [presumably]just a matter of hours

Thanks for the unnecessary insults. You're still wrong. There is a huge Asian population in Los Angeles along with all the rich and famous people in the world. And probably the highest potential pay day. He'd make more in endorsements than his contract and he'd be competing for the WS immediately. Maybe he doesn't want the Kevin Durant narrative of winning a championship as part of a super team. Sorry Jays fans but they are irrelevant in MLB. Playing in Canada where baseball is a niche sport isn't going to help his market. If he goes there they will probably be trying to trade him in two years.

[ThoseBackPages]

anyone who thinks that Yordan is anywhere near Ohtani in The Hobby cannot be taken seriously

remember, this part of this message board "Blowouts Hobby Talk" is about The Hobby