📈Is the correction over? What cards look attractive with an upside potential?📈

[Scottish Punk]

wow you are right, just checked some completed ebay.

Wemby optic for $10, SGC 9 for $20, SGC 10 for $60. Lots of stuff from China. Some of those colored are getting good money. I hope SGC and PSA can recognize that they are fake if reprinted.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Trying to stay on topic:

I am not sure we hit the bottom, but it does feel like the decline is now less steep? We are still above pre-covid levels for most pricing. Before Covid, it felt like we had a long a run of when stuff was relatively flat. I know prospects boom and bust always. It felt like most vintage stuff in "collectors" condition stayed the same.

Do we feel like all of that will still trickle down to pre-covid levels or are we at a basically new floor? For ultra-modern, I think singles will continue to decline and numbered cards delta will become smaller and smaller. Collectors will go for eye appeal of a parallel over making sure it is /50. Single prices will continue to be completely detached from wax pricing. At some point, breaking prices will pop no? It has to fall closer to what the value of cards you get back I would think. Or are we just full blown gambling now and the value of the break is only ran against the mega hit value?

The last few months has seen a sustained uptrend in good cards of good players. We’ve spent the last 2+ years weeding out investor bois. Now we’re left with a more purified group of buyers who want to own and hold these cards. It’s all supply and demand.

But I’m afraid we’re going to see a moderate to severe recession just around the corner. And that would change everything.

[solt0131]

I'm still waiting for this recession that the Blowout experts have been calling for since January of 2020.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by solt0131

I'm still waiting for this recession that the Blowout experts have been calling for since January of 2020.

In your world, 2020 prizm seventh year Andrew Wiggins rookie cards were selling for 25 cents then, and are still selling for 25 cents today.

Just don’t tell this to gem mint topps chrome Lebron rookie investor bois- you may get a salty response.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

End of the day I'll give my vote to the side trying to feed fourth graders, not force them to have babies. That's the last I'll derail this thread.

Anyway I heard Nesmith is criminally undervalued these days.

I get the last word here, thank you very much.

So just say you're a one-issuer voter (and that you support the 4 Pillars I cited as a cost of doing so) rather than waste our time on the other stuff. You're gonna vote that side anyway. (Also, that side seems okay with elective late-term ab*rtions along with the 4 Pillars and strawmanning the other side as okay with starving fourth graders. Nice 'n' pathetic on the whole. Good day to you pal

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

I get the last word here, thank you very much.

So just say you're a one-issuer voter (and that you support the 4 Pillars I cited as a cost of doing so) rather than waste our time on the other stuff. You're gonna vote that side anyway. (Also, that side seems okay with elective late-term ab*rtions along with the 4 Pillars and strawmanning the other side as okay with starving fourth graders. Nice 'n' pathetic on the whole. Good day to you pal

You already commented on your Nomad account, but I guess this one is the "fake news!1!!" more politcally-minded handle so knock yourself out. If my "single issue" is "the list of a hundred reasons why I'm not okay supporting these people anymore" then you are right.

Anyways, I'd agree with Scottish Punk the amount of numbered trash will eventually be relegated to the bargain bin. Idk how baseball guys feel about all the bajillion parallels like camo on the Topps side, but panini's endless stream of patterned variants <100 are all just smoke and mirrors to fill inflated print runs with "hits". I made that mistake a lot up until a few years back. "Oooh, /5 you say!? It's okayish looking, let me drop 200 dollars on this". Buying numbers instead of cards. Had to stop doing that because I just wound up with numerous cards I didnt really care that much for.

[BambinoShuffle]

Yay … politics… again.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

wow you are right, just checked some completed ebay.

Wemby optic for $10, SGC 9 for $20, SGC 10 for $60. Lots of stuff from China. Some of those colored are getting good money. I hope SGC and PSA can recognize that they are fake if reprinted.

It is interesting how much of optic/Prizm base are from China. I know they rip a lot of product, but wow.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

It is interesting how much of optic/Prizm base are from China. I know they rip a lot of product, but wow.

Probably counterfeits. Especially when they have wemby and no other players for sale.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

It is interesting how much of optic/Prizm base are from China. I know they rip a lot of product, but wow.

It's definitely ramped up over the past few years. I used to totally avoid buying anything from China but now I kind of have to occasionally. I'm alright doing it, shilling aside, if it's a brand new release. I'd be way more wary especially unnumbered SSPs from even the last couple of years given what we have seen with fakes in that realm. Some are easy to spot and some are pretty difficult.

[Nomad]

Nomad account, quite the burn.

I don't just make shoot up: "Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

If you are gonna bring up politics, as it relates to the economy, you gotta mention ill-conceived stuff like this.

New dip, same as the old dip (state).

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by solt0131

I'm still waiting for this recession that the Blowout experts have been calling for since January of 2020.

Hey they will be right at some point in the future!

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Nomad account, quite the burn.

I don't just make shoot up: "Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

If you are gonna bring up politics, as it relates to the economy, you gotta mention ill-conceived stuff like this.

New dip, same as the old dip (state).

My conspiracy theory is still that there is one central hive mind behind several meme accounts, you shall never dissuade me.

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Bcr

Hey they will be right at some point in the future!

A lot of em probably got mega excited for the kick-off of what was ultimately a 9 hour long recession this week methinks.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

My conspiracy theory is still that there is one central hive mind behind several meme accounts, you shall never dissuade me.

You're probably right. But honestly, it isn't worth all that. I mean you would get more activity and clout on a local sports forum.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The last few months has seen a sustained uptrend in good cards of good players. We’ve spent the last 2+ years weeding out investor bois. Now we’re left with a more purified group of buyers who want to own and hold these cards. It’s all supply and demand.

But I’m afraid we’re going to see a moderate to severe recession just around the corner. And that would change everything.

I posted a few rare high end cards I got back from the vault the other day and got more PMs trying to buy them off of me than ever before. Have friend who's dealing with the same situation as well. I'm not talking Prizm base here. It's stuff that either no one else has or no one else has available.

As for the greater economic picture, the biggest thing holding back the business right now is trepidation around what happens October-January. This isn't a political take: Uncertainty weighs on corporate spending. There is a lot of uncertainty out there right now and depending on which way this election goes, strategies will have to change and because of that a lot of us are on defense right now.

Back to the cards I'm talking about... it changes nothing for me. I'm not holding Mahomes NT RPAs, Black Finites, Game Used Super Bowl footballs, NBA debut jerseys, and other stuff in my sports portfolio because I care about what happens to them over the next few years... I'm measuring these in decades and am bullish on my outlook until we're all lining up for food rations together.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I posted a few rare high end cards I got back from the vault the other day and got more PMs trying to buy them off of me than ever before. Have friend who's dealing with the same situation as well. I'm not talking Prizm base here. It's stuff that either no one else has or no one else has available.

As for the greater economic picture, the biggest thing holding back the business right now is trepidation around what happens October-January. This isn't a political take: Uncertainty weighs on corporate spending. There is a lot of uncertainty out there right now and depending on which way this election goes, strategies will have to change and because of that a lot of us are on defense right now.

Are you talking modern (2000s), ultra-modern (2010s and 2020s) or something else?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Are you talking modern (2000s), ultra-modern (2010s and 2020s) or something else?

These two in particular....


but all these as well.

[tjforce]

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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by tjforce

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This may be the basketball forum, but DAYUM!

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by tjforce

As for the greater economic picture, the biggest thing holding back the business right now is trepidation around what happens October-January. This isn't a political take: Uncertainty weighs on corporate spending. There is a lot of uncertainty out there right now and depending on which way this election goes, strategies will have to change and because of that a lot of us are on defense right now.

Yeah, we have 2 wildly different visions for the future of the economy and basically a coin flip to see which one wins out. That kind of uncertainty makes it tough to plan things.

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

I get the last word here, thank you very much.

So just say you're a one-issuer voter (and that you support the 4 Pillars I cited as a cost of doing so) rather than waste our time on the other stuff. You're gonna vote that side anyway. (Also, that side seems okay with elective late-term ab*rtions along with the 4 Pillars and strawmanning the other side as okay with starving fourth graders. Nice 'n' pathetic on the whole. Good day to you pal

Why are we asterisk-censoring a FuDaMeNtAl HuMaN rIgHt ?

[6celtics33]

Forget the economy. Can Trump Make American Basketball Great Again?

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

This may be the basketball forum, but DAYUM!

The rest of the cards i was referring to (with 1 bball included)




Point is that the really hard to find stuff is surging right now. In kicking myself for dragging my feet and missing out on another grail, but thats my fault.


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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Yeah, we have 2 wildly different visions for the future of the economy and basically a coin flip to see which one wins out. That kind of uncertainty makes it tough to plan things.

Yup. I'm not going to get into my own political beliefs but the business environments looks different in each scenario. There will be winners and losers in either.