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marl1220 · 07-12-2021, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

What a week for Green. An immaculate inning a few days ago with 9 pitches for 3 Ks and now 12 pitches scores 6 runs to lose a game.

I wish I could be that erratic at my job and still keep it.

Dirk Diggler · 07-12-2021, 11:37 AM

Boone’s use of his bullpen has been questionable at best……

Why not bring in Chapman or Green to start the 9th

Chapman’s confidence could have improved if he took over and gotten the save

Now the bullpen is in disorder as no one knows what their roles going forward will be

JRX · 07-12-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Boone’s use of his bullpen has been questionable at best……

Why not bring in Chapman or Green to start the 9th

Chapman’s confidence could have improved if he took over and gotten the save

Now the bullpen is in disorder as no one knows what their roles going forward will be

Or at least make up a fake injury and put Chapman on the IL. Why have him active if you're not going to use him.

hxcmilkshake · 07-12-2021, 12:15 PM

You guys would've KILLED Boone if he brought in Chapman lol cmon!! He hasn't gotten anyone out in weeks

I'm no huge Green fan but he's been excellent lately.

If we were up 8 9 runs maybe you bring Chapman in but otherwise needed to bring your top guys in to secure that win. Or try to lol

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Jericho · 07-12-2021, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

You guys would've KILLED Boone if he brought in Chapman lol cmon!! He hasn't gotten anyone out in weeks

I'm no huge Green fan but he's been excellent lately.

If we were up 8 9 runs maybe you bring Chapman in but otherwise needed to bring your top guys in to secure that win. Or try to lol

Didnt he pitch well the last time he pitched in Seattle? Or maybe Im wrong I cant remember now lol. But I thought bring Chapman in to start the 9th since it was a 7-2 game so if he got in trouble you could pull him out and bring in Green then if you had to.

Dirk Diggler · 07-12-2021, 01:24 PM

Fun Fact

So far this year a team has entered the 9th inning with a 4+ run lead 495 times

The record of those teams…… 493 - 2

You know what team lost those 2 games ????

To the poster above Chapman is your closer that’s why he’s on this team
If you are going to make a run to make the playoffs you have to put him in until he’s proven he’s completely lost it….

Not bringing him in to work out the kinks shows total lack of confidence in your #1 closer
You might as well wave the white flag

SethMurphy · 07-12-2021, 01:25 PM

Chapman's Last 5 Games

7/6 SEA - 1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 3 SO, Batters Faced 6
7/4 NYM - 0 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO, 1 HR, 3 BF
6/30 LAA - 0.1 IP, 1 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 0 SO, 1 HR, 5 BF
6/23 KCR - 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 SO, 8 BF
6/20 OAK - 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K, 3 BF

3.1 IP, 6 H, 9 R, 9 ER, 10 BB, 5 K, 2 HR, 24.30 ERA

I have zero confidence in Chapman at all.... yes he had a 2.05 ERA before that, giving up 8 runs, 6 earned in 28 games and 26.1 IP, but clearly he either lost confidence.... lost his head...... or just maybe he lost the sticky stuff he used on the ball????????????

ottobord · 07-12-2021, 01:45 PM

Chapman has an ERA of 4.40 in championship games and World Series.
Mo had an ERA of .095 in championship games and World Series.

Chapman chokes in big games.

Dirk Diggler · 07-12-2021, 01:53 PM

Confidence is a major influence in pitching - more so with your closer
If you let him sit on the bench in situations where he should be pitching it’s only going to get worse……
It takes a special mindset to close and he needs to pitch toget back into that mindset

Btw they won’t put Chapman in but constantly keep Sanchez, Torres, Gardner, Odor, Wade and others in the lineup when they couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat

If they’re not going to have Chapman be the closer who the hell are they going Togo to in this bullpen???

Dirk Diggler · 07-12-2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ottobord

Chapman has an ERA of 4.96 in championship games and World Series.
Mo had an ERA of 1.05 in championship games and World Series.

Chapman chokes in big games.

Cubs may disagree with you on that point

SethMurphy · 07-12-2021, 02:45 PM

2016 posteason through game 5 of WS - 2.08 ERA, 11 G, 13 IP, 5 BB, 18 K

Gms 6-7 of WS - 2.2 IP, 10.13 ERA, 1 massive homerun allowed

In total though he did blow 3 saves in that postseason run, it just happened to work out.

Mandy1320 · 07-12-2021, 03:30 PM

2 more matchups with the Red Sox and 1 more with the Rays before the Trade Deadline.

Win or lose, if they Yankees stay put AGAIN, then that's where I draw the line with this organization, especially Cashman.

Now if you're thinking: "There's no way they don't make any moves at the deadline!" Then you haven't been paying attention the last few years.

marl1220 · 07-12-2021, 05:06 PM

What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting.

Mandy1320 · 07-13-2021, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting.

Great article about him.

https://viewsfrom314ft.com/prospect-...-trey-sweeney/

cspaced25 · 07-13-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting .

Nor have the Yankees been in the past 20 years

JRX · 07-13-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting.

Hes lefty so maybe things are changing

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Mandy1320 · 07-13-2021, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cspaced25

Nor have the Yankees been in the past 20 years

I think it's fair to say they've gotten better. Judge, Sanchez, Sevy, etc.

They definitely had a stretch where their farm system served almost no purpose besides trade bait. Lol

fulltritty · 07-13-2021, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

I wish I could be that erratic at my job and still keep it.

Yes. Apparently the only people who can suck at their job and still keep them all of the time are politicians, weathermen, Government employees, and Chad Green.

fulltritty · 07-13-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by marl1220

What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting.

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

Great article about him.

https://viewsfrom314ft.com/prospect-...-trey-sweeney/

Here's exactly why the Yankees picked him.

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namely scouts are low on him whereas analytics people love him.

Hopefully he doesn't become the bext Clint Frazier of the organization.

fulltritty · 07-13-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

I think it's fair to say they've gotten better. Judge, Sanchez, Sevy, etc.

They definitely had a stretch where their farm system served almost no purpose besides trade bait. Lol

You totally lost credibility after Judge. I mean Sanchez sucks other than his rookie year and while Sevy was outstanding, he's been injured for what 2 years now?

Mandy1320 · 07-13-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

You totally lost credibility after Judge. I mean Sanchez sucks other than his rookie year and while Sevy was outstanding, he's been injured for what 2 years now?

Oh yea, it definitely hasn't panned out how we all thought it would but they are still very talented and survived the Yankees farm system. That was my point.

Give me my credibility back, please. I need it to sleep at night

Mandy1320 · 07-13-2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

Here's exactly why the Yankees picked him.

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namely scouts are low on him whereas analytics people love him.

HAH. Exactly what I thought when I read that.

JRX · 07-13-2021, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandy1320

HAH. Exactly what I thought when I read that.

I wonder what analytics say hes undervalued when hes not facing great competition.

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Mandy1320 · 07-13-2021, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

I wonder what analytics say hes undervalued when hes not facing great competition.

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Might be mechanical stuff relative to the player. Bat speed. Swing efficiency. Stuff like that.

JRX · 07-13-2021, 09:39 AM

Maybe they don't adjust their exit velo input for aluminum bats

07-12-2021, 01:25 PM	#1707
SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,528 smurf_8 sethmurphy	Chapman's Last 5 Games 7/6 SEA - 1 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 3 SO, Batters Faced 6 7/4 NYM - 0 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO, 1 HR, 3 BF 6/30 LAA - 0.1 IP, 1 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 0 SO, 1 HR, 5 BF 6/23 KCR - 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 SO, 8 BF 6/20 OAK - 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K, 3 BF 3.1 IP, 6 H, 9 R, 9 ER, 10 BB, 5 K, 2 HR, 24.30 ERA I have zero confidence in Chapman at all.... yes he had a 2.05 ERA before that, giving up 8 runs, 6 earned in 28 games and 26.1 IP, but clearly he either lost confidence.... lost his head...... or just maybe he lost the sticky stuff he used on the ball???????????? __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

07-12-2021, 01:45 PM	#1708
ottobord Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,864	Chapman has an ERA of 4.40 in championship games and World Series. Mo had an ERA of .095 in championship games and World Series. Chapman chokes in big games. Last edited by ottobord; 07-12-2021 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Math error

07-12-2021, 01:53 PM	#1709
Dirk Diggler Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New York Posts: 383	Confidence is a major influence in pitching - more so with your closer If you let him sit on the bench in situations where he should be pitching it’s only going to get worse…… It takes a special mindset to close and he needs to pitch toget back into that mindset Btw they won’t put Chapman in but constantly keep Sanchez, Torres, Gardner, Odor, Wade and others in the lineup when they couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat If they’re not going to have Chapman be the closer who the hell are they going Togo to in this bullpen??? Last edited by Dirk Diggler; 07-12-2021 at 01:55 PM.

07-12-2021, 02:45 PM	#1711
SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,528 smurf_8 sethmurphy	2016 posteason through game 5 of WS - 2.08 ERA, 11 G, 13 IP, 5 BB, 18 K Gms 6-7 of WS - 2.2 IP, 10.13 ERA, 1 massive homerun allowed In total though he did blow 3 saves in that postseason run, it just happened to work out. __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

07-12-2021, 11:37 AM	#1702
Dirk Diggler Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New York Posts: 383	Boone’s use of his bullpen has been questionable at best…… Why not bring in Chapman or Green to start the 9th Chapman’s confidence could have improved if he took over and gotten the save Now the bullpen is in disorder as no one knows what their roles going forward will be

07-12-2021, 12:15 PM	#1704
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,700 hxcmilkshake	You guys would've KILLED Boone if he brought in Chapman lol cmon!! He hasn't gotten anyone out in weeks I'm no huge Green fan but he's been excellent lately. If we were up 8 9 runs maybe you bring Chapman in but otherwise needed to bring your top guys in to secure that win. Or try to lol Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

07-12-2021, 01:24 PM	#1706
Dirk Diggler Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: New York Posts: 383	Fun Fact So far this year a team has entered the 9th inning with a 4+ run lead 495 times The record of those teams…… 493 - 2 You know what team lost those 2 games ???? To the poster above Chapman is your closer that’s why he’s on this team If you are going to make a run to make the playoffs you have to put him in until he’s proven he’s completely lost it…. Not bringing him in to work out the kinks shows total lack of confidence in your #1 closer You might as well wave the white flag

07-12-2021, 03:30 PM	#1712
Mandy1320 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,882 marande-5259	2 more matchups with the Red Sox and 1 more with the Rays before the Trade Deadline. Win or lose, if they Yankees stay put AGAIN, then that's where I draw the line with this organization, especially Cashman. Now if you're thinking: "There's no way they don't make any moves at the deadline!" Then you haven't been paying attention the last few years.

07-12-2021, 05:06 PM	#1713
marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,934	What do you guys think of the Yanks 1st pick, Trey Sweeney? From what I read he looks pretty good, but then again I've never been good at prospecting.

07-13-2021, 09:39 AM	#1725
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,296	Maybe they don't adjust their exit velo input for aluminum bats