***Official CAITLIN CLARK Thread***

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

It seems that women athletes are especially prone to ACL tears. Not sure if it's physiology or what, but seems more common for women than men.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/article...9/pdf/main.pdf

[Incarnadine]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Risk of sports-related injury due to female gender is also a contributing factor.

True, they do have a higher injury rate than men, but this year has a far higher number of injuries than normal and it seems to be especially bad for the "stars". I wonder if the added games playing in Unrivaled might have been a contributing factor?

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Incarnadine

True, they do have a higher injury rate than men, but this year has a far higher number of injuries than normal and it seems to be especially bad for the "stars". I wonder if the added games playing in Unrivaled might have been a contributing factor?

Adding games (or any activity that involves additional wear and tear of the body, for example, practices) definitely increases injury-risk. The more rigorous, the higher the increased risk.

The WNBA is basically in its infancy stage (imo). For that reason, as it continues to get more popular, we’ll continue to observe increased skill/athleticism of the average WNBA player (until it reaches that sweet spot where the annual change in skill/athleticism becomes insignificant). In other words, WNBA players will have to do more (than years past) to get the same result (juke/get by player, score, etc). They’ll also deal with stronger (and probably more aggressive) defenders over time too.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Incarnadine

I've never seen such a league wide wave of injuries that the WNBA has had this year in any sport. It's been a combination of dirty reckless play, terrible officiating and just plain bad luck.

Virtually every single major player has been out with injury this year and a large number are still out.

Players currently out: CC, Angel Reese, Nepheesa Collier, Breanna Stewart
Players who have missed multiple games: Paige Bueckers, Alyssa Thomas, A'ja Wilson

Those are just the "stars" I can think of, the list of other players is long. The Fever have been hit the hardest and will be lucky to make the playoffs now. Sure, they won last night, but they had to come back from 21 down and win in OT against the worst team in the league. This was after losing 4 of 5 of the previous games.

Something tells me this may be a regrettable decision.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/wnb...%241%20million.


I get it. Pay me what im worth, but bills need to be paid in the meantime and these kind of injury revenue blows don't strengthen your case. Plus you can always renegotiate at a latter date.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Adding games (or any activity that involves additional wear and tear of the body, for example, practices) definitely increases injury-risk. The more rigorous, the higher the increased risk.

The WNBA is basically in its infancy stage (imo). For that reason, as it continues to get more popular, we’ll continue to observe increased skill/athleticism of the average WNBA player (until it reaches that sweet spot where the annual change in skill/athleticism becomes insignificant). In other words, WNBA players will have to do more (than years past) to get the same result (juke/get by player, score, etc). They’ll also deal with stronger (and probably more aggressive) defenders over time too.

I did a search, and it looks like the higher number of games and the amount of rest between games seems to be a big factor:

“If you’ve looked over this time as well since the pandemic, the [WNBA] has systematically been increasing the amount of games over that five years to a high of 44 this year, without actually increasing the number of days in the season, at least not to a significant amount. So basically, they’re cramming in more games, but not extending the season, and that just gives them less and less time for athletes to recover.”

https://www.thenexthoops.com/podcast...-consequences/

As per research done by Garrett Gastfield, Lobo highlighted the shrinking number of days on average teams in the W had between games for rest and recovery from year-to-year: 2021: 4.03, 2022: 2.81, 2023: 2.88, 2024: 3.23, 2025: 2.70

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...es/ar-AA1Jo0Qm

[boxbuster7]

I would be surprised if clark didn't return friday

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I did a search, and it looks like the higher number of games and the amount of rest between games seems to be a big factor:


https://www.thenexthoops.com/podcast...-consequences/


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...es/ar-AA1Jo0Qm

100%.

These days, athletes are doing more intense and more frequent activities (e.g., increased games/practices/etc) resulting in less time for rest/recuperation (when, in such instances, they really need more).

That extra (and prolonged) stress on the body (and decreased rest/recuperation) is certainly contributing towards more negative outcomes (not just physical too).

[boxbuster7]

anybody that says it is a WNBA problem didn't see Tatum or Haliburton tear their achilles this postseason

[imb4]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

anybody that says it is a WNBA problem didn't see Tatum or Haliburton tear their achilles this postseason

Some teams have close to 20 back-to-backs this season. I really hope they don't keep blaming load management on the teams.

The Fever were down 30-12 last night, had their carry go down in the 2nd quarter, and rallied back to force OT and win.

[Incarnadine]

The usual rumours are swirling about CC coming back on Friday for the Lynx game, but I just don't see the point now.
Sophie has now been confirmed to be out for the rest of the season and the Fever just signed a 5'7" 36 year old point guard.

The odds of them making the playoffs are probably sub 50% now and even if they do scrape in they will end up playing the 1 or 2 seed.
Even CC can't save this dumpster fire of a team, especially with Stephanie White coaching.

I can't believe I actually find myself missing Christie Sides as their coach. Sides sucked, but at least the players were willing to ignore her and do their own thing at times.

[Corporal Lance]

The problem, at the end of the day, is the product. I've been to a WNBA game, and really wanted to leave at halftime, but had spent $500 on hotels, gas and food. I was alone in the 30 seat row of row 25.

If you go to a sandwich shop and get a bad sandwich chances are you won't go back. If you watch a WNBA game and realize a JV team from a decent highschool could not just beat them but decimate them...why would you go back?

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

The problem, at the end of the day, is the product. I've been to a WNBA game, and really wanted to leave at halftime, but had spent $500 on hotels, gas and food. I was alone in the 30 seat row of row 25.

If you go to a sandwich shop and get a bad sandwich chances are you won't go back. If you watch a WNBA game and realize a JV team from a decent highschool could not just beat them but decimate them...why would you go back?

My other buddies have made this point as well. The average wnba player is not very good.

There are about 10 players in the league worth the price of admission and that isn't enough for most people to care at this point.

I was going to go to see caitlin clark in person but now that she is out I literally have zero interest in going.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

The problem, at the end of the day, is the product. I've been to a WNBA game, and really wanted to leave at halftime, but had spent $500 on hotels, gas and food. I was alone in the 30 seat row of row 25.

If you go to a sandwich shop and get a bad sandwich chances are you won't go back. If you watch a WNBA game and realize a JV team from a decent highschool could not just beat them but decimate them...why would you go back?

So guys, basically men, can beat women. Shocker. Try and come up with a better argument. Women’s basketball isn’t men’s basketball. And saying they’re bad is just ignorant.


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[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

So guys, basically men, can beat women. Shocker. Try and come up with a better argument. Women’s basketball isn’t men’s basketball. And saying they’re bad is just ignorant.


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His post was actually very well written and nuanced. If YOU are going to be a reductionist and make that the takeaway then YOU are the problem.

It isn't an argument but a fact at this point that the average WNBA game is unwatchable. It isn't ignorance, it isn't me being sexist, it is just where we are at right now. The talent pool just isn't as large.

[Incarnadine]

The CC injury stuff is getting crazy. CC has been "day to day" for weeks and one point recently they actually had her as "game time decision" and now it has come out that she actually has another injury, a mild bone bruise on her left ankle that happened on Aug. 7.
Possibly re-aggravated when one of the assistant coaches stepped on her left foot on the sidelines during the Sky game on Aug. 9.

You can't believe a damn thing they say regarding her injury status. They make it sond like she'll be back any day then find out she had an additional injury nearly 2 weeks ago.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Incarnadine

The CC injury stuff is getting crazy. CC has been "day to day" for weeks and one point recently they actually had her as "game time decision" and now it has come out that she actually has another injury, a mild bone bruise on her left ankle that happened on Aug. 7.
Possibly re-aggravated when one of the assistant coaches stepped on her left foot on the sidelines during the Sky game on Aug. 9.

You can't believe a damn thing they say regarding her injury status. They make it sond like she'll be back any day then find out she had an additional injury nearly 2 weeks ago.

Day-to-day => More ticket sales
Weeks away from return => Less ticket sales

[nextlevel10]

For the last month or two I have been buying with the anticipation of her return for the beginning of next season. Her team is too banged up anyway, there is not much good that can come out of her returning this season. The hype will be there when next season begins.

[pspa123]

https://www.basketball-reference.com...tileja01w.html

[ninjacookies]

The fear mongering needs to chill a tad while our classy queen rehabs for the '26/27 grind.


Mebound 1's just dropped (picked up 3 pairs to go with my latest Labubu pick ups).




League's in good hands.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Day-to-day => More ticket sales
Weeks away from return => Less ticket sales

I am surprised there isn't more coverage of this angle. I mean I've never seen an injury where the team gave a less straight story.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by pspa123

I am surprised there isn't more coverage of this angle. I mean I've never seen an injury where the team gave a less straight story.

From 2004-2010 Tom Brady was listed on every Patriots injury report except for the 2008 season opener…

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

From 2004-2010 Tom Brady was listed on every Patriots injury report except for the 2008 season opener…

The difference being that he played

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The difference being that he played

Also, I think that was more Belichick trolling the league/other teams than anything else. There wasn't ever any doubt whether Brady would actually play or not.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

So guys, basically men, can beat women. Shocker. Try and come up with a better argument. Women’s basketball isn’t men’s basketball. And saying they’re bad is just ignorant.


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where are you seeing that he said they were bad?

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by duwal

where are you seeing that he said they were bad?

I guess that was technically boxbuster, but the implication is still there.


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