Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[justin80]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

just saw a tweet with a video of people LOOTING a Target in Minnesota

GROWN PEOPLE

Why would they do that? Target doesn’t have any Project 2020 cards!

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

is everything about monetary value?

At one point a couple years ago I had the 2nd biggest Randy Moss collection in the world and a really nice Griffey collection. If I had the money to spend I'd be as big of a collector as anyone here. But I make nothing. After taxes maybe $35k a year. I decided I'd maybe like to have a life, not work a job I hate for the rest of my life, or live paycheck to paycheck. So for me right now at this point it is about monetary value.

[DR Murph]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

we are living in times the world has never seen before

COVID-19 has changed EVERYTHING

if these cards bring you JOY, what monetary value do you put on something like that?

Yup. Best part about this set IMO is that there are so many different ways to collect them at SRP.

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

It's awesome for cards 1-86. Great for the artists future sales which is great for Ben Baller. Horrible for future cards value.

Print runs will go down. Probably this week. The Don C/Ripken should be good barometer.

[kevbojones]

You're already moving the goal posts.

The super high priced cards are "in hand" and have been for weeks

Originally Posted by mossoholic

That's not what I laid out on the bet pages back. Without going through all my posts I don't think that is what I said. I said or at least meant that once all the super high pr cards are IN HAND they will not on a consistent basis sell for over $50 a card. I may be a little dramatic saying none of the 91-400 cards ever will because if there are weeks upon weeks of huge print runs and in say around card 150 print runs go way down then those cards where pr is way down can get over $50. If every day moving forward is like today's print runs not a single card from 87 through 400 will when in hand sell on a consistent basis of over $50 a card.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

At one point a couple years ago I had the 2nd biggest Randy Moss collection in the world and a really nice Griffey collection. If I had the money to spend I'd be as big of a collector as anyone here. But I make nothing. After taxes maybe $35k a year. I decided I'd maybe like to have a life, not work a job I hate for the rest of my life, or live paycheck to paycheck. So for me right now at this point it is about monetary value.

im sorry to hear that. Yes, the Project is over for you now.

i would say buy 10 packs of Trout from here on out, and just put them into storage

i cant see them being under $15 in 5 years

[ninjacookies]

Just sold another Fucci Fish for $160 in 5 minutes.


I cannot believe I'll cover my 75 card buy in with just 8 more sales. I'll just ride it out to the bottom or use them as fortified shelter at my new freeway underpass getaway.

[Silas Barnaby]

If a market correction increases the chances of my eBay presales getting honored then I am fine with it.

A little profit-taking a good thing. Gives people confidence to go back in the water.

[justin80]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Just sold another Fucci Fish for $160 in 5 minutes.


I cannot believe I'll cover my 75 card buy in with just 8 more sales. I'll just ride it out to the bottom or use them as fortified shelter at my new freeway underpass getaway.

That’s another one I’m holding. Sky is the limit!

[Neal]

Not sure what is more fast paced - the product or this thread! LOL

A few bullet points
- I love the issue
- I wish I paid attention way back when

That said, it seems that PR less than 5K could/should be hot in the upcoming weeks. Somewhat accurate statement?

Also, is the Ermsy Trout worth taking a serious peek for someone that does not have one?

Thx

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by justin80

That’s another one I’m holding. Sky is the limit!

After I cover my buy in...YOLO brah.

May thy swagnificent #5k derriere satchels overfloweth with fish.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

Print runs will go down. Probably this week. The Don C/Ripken should be good barometer.

Unless the jeter hits tomorrow then we will have double dipper flipper dip chip 2 pack buying noise boyz


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

After I cover my buy in...YOLO brah.

May thy swagnificent #5k derriere satchels overfloweth with fish.

Broski, i hope you loaded up on American Mac!

#MERICUH

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Because I’d rather shell out cash in one transaction down the line? Then spend $7,000 on this set through the year?

I want the entire set. I’ll have 1065 to choose from. And I’m confident I’ll get it cheaper than MSRP. If I pay more, I’m okay with that as well.

This is a really confusing post to me. I find it hard to believe this set will ever be sold for less than MSRP. There will be very few complete sets as many of these low print run cards are already locked up in mini set collections of player/artist collectors.

I actually agree that these huge print run cards will bottom out. But there is way to much demand in this project for the lower print runs to fall below msrp. Heck the fact that you claim you want a set down the road shows the appeal these cards have. I can’t understand why someone who likes these cards and wants a set would not be buying these every day at the low bundle price. It seems saving $1k possibly on on the set is hardly worth the possibility of paying significantly above msrp in the future. It’s extremely shortsighted to think the upside savings, which is capped, would be greater than the downside potential cost in the future which is unlimited. I also struggle to understand why people with no interest in this project would spend time to post in a thread on an Internet forum such as this, but that seems to be happening as well. There must be an agenda there or what’s the point?

There are plenty of people just like me who have been buying from the beginning and have no intention of selling. That will limit the number of available cards considerably in the future, specifically for the lower print run cards.

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

That $1M cap per card is silly.



There are 26,000 total sales of eBay under “Topps project 2020”



If the market cap per card is $1M, we’re at an $88M market cap, or $3,385 per card sold. Well 82 out of the 26K have sold for $3,385+, so I’m going to go ahead and say the market cap of the set is quite lower.

The ebay platform only shows ebay sales not the whole market. There are many x cards that have been bought and paid for through Topps that havent shown up on Ebay... So these numbers dont work. Unless I'm missing something?

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[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by dgr81

looks like twinsjake sold 528 griffey's at $17.25 (presell price).

he has currently sold 107 ripken's and 66 rivera's.

based on some rudimentary math i predict a PR of < 35k ripken's and < 20k rivera's.

He bought 1400 griffeys...

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[ethanwa]

I still have Giffey Beck (4 cards) for $460 each and an Ichiro Ermsy for $930. PayPal direct to skip eBay. Cards in hand. PM me if you went them. I have them listed on eBay for a lot more.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Broski, i hope you loaded up on American Mac!

#MERICUH

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by justin80

Passed on that one because it looked to me like snot was coming out of ted’s nose. Big mistake!

He was hooked up to a breathing machine i felt. Will say ermsy feels more cartoonish with colors etc than mr cartoon. Ermsy makes me think of ASM 129 for some reason and I smile.


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[sandlotsportcards]

I’m buying every card this week despite what the print runs do and then I’ll decide if I want to pick and choose going forward. This set is far from over making money for people.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

They were probably at the same game

Not in 1986


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[trendy26]

JK5 Clemente is rocketing to the moon! $500 by week’s end is my guess

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

This is a really confusing post to me. I find it hard to believe this set will ever be sold for less than MSRP. There will be very few complete sets as many of these low print run cards are already locked up in mini set collections of player/artist collectors.

I actually agree that these huge print run cards will bottom out. But there is way to much demand in this project for the lower print runs to fall below msrp. Heck the fact that you claim you want a set down the road shows the appeal these cards have. I can’t understand why someone who likes these cards and wants a set would not be buying these every day at the low bundle price. It seems saving $1k possibly on on the set is hardly worth the possibility of paying significantly above msrp in the future. It’s extremely shortsighted to think the upside savings, which is capped, would be greater than the downside potential cost in the future which is unlimited. I also struggle to understand why people with no interest in this project would spend time to post in a thread on an Internet forum such as this, but that seems to be happening as well. There must be an agenda there or what’s the point?

There are plenty of people just like me who have been buying from the beginning and have no intention of selling. That will limit the number of available cards considerably in the future, specifically for the lower print run cards.

A significant amount of the time, you'll land a discount buying in sets. Buying vintage sets and breaking up--generally worth less than the sum of its parts.

Downside potential isn't unlimited. Downside potential is simply you don't own the set. It's not like I'm short selling it.

I like posting because it's instant action from all sides.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

just saw a tweet with a video of people LOOTING a Target in Minnesota

GROWN PEOPLE

Bowman Mega Boxes came out already?