✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Dang, raw ohtani 2018 BC 1 prices already chopped in half in six weeks.

This hobby is brutal.

$1500 was insane tbf.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Should be down to $200 soon, and you get a free plastic holder in the form of a psa 9.

nice! need 150

[LVDan]

BC1 as in a base chrome rookie?
It could be halved another several times and still be wildly overpriced IMO
The market is the market but I have a hard time believing any sane collector needs that card at those prices.

[anusinha]

He's going to be a bargain in the offseason, just buy him before he gets to the Dodgers.

[jmcca170]

Felt the same regarding the Bowman Chrome that I did with when Luka’s PSA10 base prism was like 1200.


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[Rage]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Dang, raw ohtani 2018 BC 1 prices already chopped in half in six weeks.

This hobby is brutal.

As they should, they are 6 year old raw base cards after all.

How's his Bowman autos doing?

[Bezeevan]

Originally Posted by Rage

As they should, they are 6 year old raw base cards after all.

How's his Bowman autos doing?

Bad. I commissioned a Bowman gold auto to Goldin 2 weeks before his UCL tear and I'm gonna pay for it with a sale at half price I'm sure. Those who are wanting cheap higher end Ohtanis will be busy over the next 3 months.

[Trueblue]

Bad is relative. It is still WAY higher than the beginning of the season. This is where the low cost basis long-term guys are calmly holding while everyone else runs around like their hair is on fire.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Rage

As they should, they are 6 year old raw base cards after all.

How's his Bowman autos doing?

At some point in the next few years this will happen again and the suckers will line up like it never happened. This is the second time this exact trend has played out (pumped BC base 1 drops to 1/3 value in 2021).

Somehow people thought it was going to be different this time around. The helium for this card was suspect and unnatural to begin with, relative to other cards of similar print runs. I don't care if he is batting. You could have sold 3 PSA 10s of this base card 45 days ago and purchased an Ohtani Topps Chrome RC Auto in 9.5 Gem MT today. Think about it.

[netmasters]

Does anyone remember what the difference was in the Black and Blue in 2018 Update? I love this Ohtani Legends In The Making rookie and it seems cheap but wondering if there are still a ton of ungraded out there.

2018 Topps Update #LITM21 Shohei Ohtani PSA 10 Legends in the Making Black

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by netmasters

Does anyone remember what the difference was in the Black and Blue in 2018 Update? I love this Ohtani Legends In The Making rookie and it seems cheap but wondering if there are still a ton of ungraded out there.

2018 Topps Update #LITM21 Shohei Ohtani PSA 10 Legends in the Making Black

Blue and Black are both unnumbered parallels to the base LITM. Per Cardboard Connection, the parallels are:
PARALLEL CARDS: Blue, Black, Gold #/50, Red #/10, Platinum 1/1

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...baseball-cards

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by here2havefun

Blue and Black are both unnumbered parallels to the base LITM. Per Cardboard Connection, the parallels are:
PARALLEL CARDS: Blue, Black, Gold #/50, Red #/10, Platinum 1/1

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...baseball-cards

On the OTHER inserts, black was to /299 and blue was unnumbered but per the odds we knew they were to 600. On LiTM, they're both unnumbered and unfortunately I don't have the data to try to estimate print runs for either (though definitely way above those numbers). I can, however, say that there should still be twice as many blue as black, since that was consistent in the odds on every format I could find.

[Trueblue]

Drew my first blood (semi-big card) of the offseason. The deals are happening, boys!!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Drew my first blood (semi-big card) of the offseason. The deals are happening, boys!!

LOVE IT!

[Trueblue]

I will say that it's funny and sad watching bag holders on social media that bought at peak, unable to cope with the new values and delusionally listing cards for July prices. They need to watch some Suze Orman selfhelp videos.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I will say that it's funny and sad watching bag holders on social media that bought at peak, unable to cope with the new values and delusionally listing cards for July prices. They need to watch some Suze Orman selfhelp videos.

weak hands indeed

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I will say that it's funny and sad watching bag holders on social media that bought at peak, unable to cope with the new values and delusionally listing cards for July prices. They need to watch some Suze Orman selfhelp videos.

The same Ohtani /25 auto I sold for over $2.3k at the beginning of July I saw sell for a little over $1,100 this week. *ouch*
So glad I sold at the top of Ohtani-mania!

[parkerj33]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Drew my first blood (semi-big card) of the offseason. The deals are happening, boys!!

Well???? What was it? We thought you had everything already!


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[NYBBFAN]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

The same Ohtani /25 auto I sold for over $2.3k at the beginning of July I saw sell for a little over $1,100 this week. *ouch*
So glad I sold at the top of Ohtani-mania!

Yeah but, do you have the stones to buy them back at lower prices?

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by NYBBFAN

Yeah but, do you have the stones to buy them back at lower prices?

TBF, I think that Ohtani card was a PSA 8, so little less than what the raw card would have probably fetched, but still nowhere near what that card was going for in early July.

If I could pick up that same card for under $1k, I'd definitely consider picking it back up.

[tconte]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

weak hands indeed

Not enough collectors at the ultra modern card table.

Most buy high and sell low. Very few buy to collect, enjoy, and hold.

Longterm for the influencers is 4-5 weeks.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by tconte

Not enough collectors at the ultra modern card table.

Most buy high and sell low. Very few buy to collect, enjoy, and hold.

Longterm for the influencers is 4-5 weeks.

sad, but true!

collectors are few and far between

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

The same Ohtani /25 auto I sold for over $2.3k at the beginning of July I saw sell for a little over $1,100 this week. *ouch*
So glad I sold at the top of Ohtani-mania!

The sell in July was always the obvious move. Well done

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Well???? What was it? We thought you had everything already!


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Will post when it arrives so not to jinx. I will say that it was "sold" and then ended up going for less than half the original price. Either unscrupulously pumped or a lot of helium came out the balloon. Either way, I'm stoked!

Originally Posted by tconte

Not enough collectors at the ultra modern card table.



Most buy high and sell low. Very few buy to collect, enjoy, and hold.



Longterm for the influencers is 4-5 weeks.

Well, even with the terribly anticlimactic end to an MVP season with injury, I can count the number of BCA PSA 10s on one hand that have surfaced since. The good stuff is being held. The secondary sucker cards like a Green Wave BGS 9 are available on FB for a big 10% discount though.

[tconte]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Well, even with the terribly anticlimactic end to an MVP season with injury, I can count the number of BCA PSA 10s on one hand that have surfaced since. The good stuff is being held. The secondary sucker cards like a Green Wave BGS 9 are available on FB for a big 10% discount though.

Easier to hold firm on the good stuff when the numbers are limited and the
product is high end.

Cards like the Bowman Chrome Batting pose in a PSA 10 grade for example
will drop like a stone. We might see a decent drop on the Topps Chrome Xfractor which doesn't have a terrible high pop count.
My point is cards like this will have a greater pump up and down and definitely
a greater exit when things go bad compared to say vintage like a 1965 Topps
Pete Rose in PSA 7 or 8 as a example I'll throw out there.
A lot and I mean most ultra modern guys just flip cards and move to the next one.