Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[JVB]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

Good afternoon everyone!..Finally caught up to the thread after about an hour or so and i gotta ask what the hell is the deal with all the negative energy?....Is this the Project 2020 thread or the 2020 Bowman or I can't find anything at retail thread?.....Lighten up everybody!

...There's enough negative and toxic energy over in those other 2 threads i mentioned above so feel free to join them if you want to piss and moan all over the place

When the euphoria wears off, everyone returns to their ways.

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Any Panini branded cards in my fanny will be torn in half and sent back.

I'm in the camp that you shouldn't be sticking ANY of the cards in your fanny.

[Graz]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

TwinsJake Preorders:

1600 Griffey
600 Ryan

How much market share do his preorders have? He had 1.7% of the Rochester Trout.

Either his business is booming, Topps is booming, or both.

If that is any indicator then we are looking at 80k+

[hpatel1089]

Originally Posted by ObanMontecristo

I’d be just as curious to know who in here is looking for a quick flip/profit as opposed to who is a long-term collector and is in it for the cards.

I fall into the latter category, but that’s not to say I’m ‘doom and gloom.’ I like increases/profit as much as the next guy, but I’m also a fan of the hobby and want to see it grow in the long run.

The cards and artists have been awesome, so I’m hoping people buy in for that reason, and not just to make a quick buck and move onto something else.

I buy two of each card and flip the second one. I am trying to collect all 400 - just have 11 of the 92 left!

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by efdot

Exactly why I started the Patreon group. always coming up with new strategies to keep bots out.

FYI I don't mind the resellers. Yall are the reason this is working so well. I'm continuing to raise my autp prices to match the market value.

Efdot, whatever you're going to charge for your next autographs, triple it (hell, quadruple it). As one of the top artists in this project, you will still sell out, and maybe more autos get into the hands of your real fans and followers. Looking forward to Gwynn!

[ThoseBackPages]

any of the expired ones under $20 yet?

[RyanSwinger]

Tide is about to turn for the positive!

Nice number for Griffey with two fire cards today.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by mcwildcats

I'm in the camp that you shouldn't be sticking ANY of the cards in your fanny.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Graz

If that is any indicator then we are looking at 80k+

If it’s an indicator the 100K is well within the realm.

[JVB]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

They had to go out and get new calculators. Shore's Griffey broke them.

Print run of over 55 million?!

[marlinsmaniac20]

Has anyone found out how twinsjake is making anymoney?

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by Snakeonia

Have 3 fannys looking for a silver giannis psa. Or a mid grade bowman mays rc


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[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

any of the expired ones under $20 yet?

No. Griffey Shore moving at almost mid 20's already

[Powell7db]

Originally Posted by Graz

If that is any indicator then we are looking at 80k+

I see 1200 for Griffey and 200 for Ryan...

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

No. Griffey Shore moving at almost mid 20's already

but but but!!!

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

Has anyone found out how twinsjake is making anymoney?

I assume that he's plat so he just gets the APs and flips them. He gets plat by moving a ton of product. Then you see all those Derek Jeter autos on the Topps Now page? Those are free to him after redeeming a ton of $40 vouchers.

That'd be my guess.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

No. Griffey Shore moving at almost mid 20's already

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by marlinsmaniac20

Has anyone found out how twinsjake is making anymoney?

He's winning with CC points and Topps Loyalty points. He's probably getting them at <$12.50 per. Selling at $17.25 each presale is break even at the absolute worst for him.

[kyle121592]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I assume that he's plat so he just gets the APs and flips them. He gets plat by moving a ton of product. Then you see all those Derek Jeter autos on the Topps Now page? Those are free to him after redeeming a ton of $40 vouchers.

That'd be my guess.

He also probably gets a negotiated rate with Topps at certain order thresholds IMO.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Powell7db

I see 1200 for Griffey and 200 for Ryan...

Check his Twitter...

[ThoseBackPages]

ok moneyboi's, 1-86 are "safe", as the Houdni train started this week

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

He's winning with CC points and Topps Loyalty points. He's probably getting them at <$12.50 per. Selling at $17.25 each presale is break even at the absolute worst for him.

Originally Posted by kyle121592

He also probably gets a negotiated rate with Topps at certain order thresholds IMO.

I don't think either of these are possible. Would love some proof.

I thought the whole point of direct to consumer for Topps was to avoid these sorts of negotiations otherwise why leave the distributor model for this???

I bet he gets them each at $15.50 after tax.

[Callmethevreez]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I assume that he's plat so he just gets the APs and flips them. He gets plat by moving a ton of product. Then you see all those Derek Jeter autos on the Topps Now page? Those are free to him after redeeming a ton of $40 vouchers.

That'd be my guess.

Yup thats what my guess is after looking into it, as well as, being able to get any of the 1/1s if they were to come in the order.

All of the Topps vouchers could make it worth while, especially if your into the Topps NOW stuff.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Who let all these lames into the thread?

"Guys. Cards can go down in value to. Have U ever consider that?? Think about it!"

Where is AlexHunter and Money Bear guy? Lets get this party started.

Seriously. To the folks that are just starting Project 2020, stop with the negative vibes. It's ok to be a realist and voice of reason, but don't flood this forum with repetitive rants to explain your views. A couple of brief posts is enough to get your point across.

[kyle121592]

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I don't think either of these are possible. Would love some proof.

I thought the whole point of direct to consumer for Topps was to avoid these sorts of negotiations otherwise why leave the distributor model for this???

I bet he gets them each at $15.50 after tax.

Topps man hours cost is much lower when they can ship 1800 cards to 1 person vs 1800 cards to 900 different people.